[antsmithmk]

I've always liked Herrera but he has been pretty poor. Seems to be consistently regressing.

Yeah him and Miki both. Why is it whenever we sign decent midfielders they never seem to cut the mustard, yet when we've played John OShea and Ji Sung Park we've won European cups

 

[antsmithmk]

Need to make sure he stays on the opposition half of the pitch and contribute offensively. Has way too much clumsiness and errors in him that he shouldn't be hanging out anywhere near De Gea.

Yeah he nearly gave away a couple of dodgy assists today. He was miles off the pace when he came on

 

[Camilo]

Herrera is a much better central midfielder. The evidence to suggest that is overwhelming and undeniable unless you haven't watched any of the last three seasons.

Being Spanish and being about the right size do not make a good midfielder. He did absolutely nothing today. Matic tried so very hard but in the end he was the only midfielder on the pitch for us. Fellaini starts ahead of him every day of the week.

 

[bosnian_red]

Was fine at what he does. The problem is getting the best out of fellaini = anti football pretty much, or definitely not playing football in an attractive way. Fine as a plan B, not fine when it's the only way to create something.

 

[Ace of Spades]

Being Spanish and being about the right size do not make a good midfielder. He did absolutely nothing today. Matic tried so very hard but in the end he was the only midfielder on the pitch for us. Fellaini starts ahead of him every day of the week.

He did a lot of defending today, so let's not make it as Herrera did nothing,that is clearly nonsense. Matic was poor firat half, but got better in the second. As a CM, I would have Herrera ahead of Fellaini easily as evidence by the fact he nearly cost us two goals because of his clumsiness and was even more useless in deeper areas. His best position is as an attacking midfielder where he can get in the box or bring long balls under control and be a goal threat.

The player we are really missing is Pogba, who is vital for us in building up play.

 

[ManUtd1999]

Fellaini starts ahead of him every day of the week.

without a doubt.

Mourinho thanks Fellaini in his post-game comments. He said that Fellaini trained for the first time only yesterday.

 

[Member 90887]

Yeah he nearly gave away a couple of dodgy assists today. He was miles off the pace when he came on

Yeah but we looked the most dangerous with him in the side. it says more about Mkhi than him tbh but nevertheless, he was decent when you take into consideration that he had only one day training.

 

[VanHaal'sRedArmy]

People giving Fellaini stick when he trained with the full squad only once the day before the match. He looked off the pace and clearly wasn't at his best, but at least applaud his dedication to this team and for fighting through his injury.

 

[togg]

I, for one, am delighted he's back. One training session? No wonder he was a bit off pace. Couple of weeks over the international break should get him up to scratch fitness wise.

 

[Moonred]

Dodgy as feck but ends up being chief creator and component in our route one football.

 

[Devil may care]

He almost cost us two more goals but did his thing when we went into high priced Pulis mode.

 

[red4ever 79]

People giving Fellaini stick when he trained with the full squad only once the day before the match. He looked off the pace and clearly wasn't at his best, but at least applaud his dedication to this team and for fighting through his injury.

Too many kebabs in Instanbal

 

[iKeano]

He will never win a Premier League medal.

 

[ti vu]

Overall he is off the pace, but as we see having him upper the pitch, it makes Chelsea being cautious, and allowed us to be able to play away from our own half.

 

[Jaybomb]

We played better when he came on. More direct and threatening. Nearly banged a wondergoal too.

 

[Jaybomb]

He will never win a Premier League medal.

Worst players have.

 

[harms]

but at least applaud his dedication to this team and for fighting through his injury.

What the heck, are we supposed to applaud every player who get to play after an injury?

 

[Rane]

Because hoofing it to Fellaini and Fellaini knocking it for players was the biggest source of a threat we could muster up all game. Unless you were watching a different game?

The point is, I'm criticising our Plan A of playing football. When hoofing it to a half-fit Fellaini is the best we can do to create chances compared to 80 or-so minutes of awful attacking play it says a lot about our attacking "talents" at the moment.

He had one chance where he took it down on his chest and fluffed the finish. There were other chances before he came on. Rashford should have scored rather than closing his eyes. Lukaku forced Courtois into a decent save.

I replied because you said he was our most creative player, yet he didn’t create anything when he came on. He won a few headers but his passing was shocking.

I agree that our attacking play is poor. Fellaini didn’t do anything to rectify that though.

 

[Zoo]

If he’s only had one training session and yet still put himself forward at the disposal of Jose then I won’t judge him on this.

 

[Ban]

He will never win a Premier League medal.

You're restless I give you that.

 

[antohan]

Herrera is a much better central midfielder. The evidence to suggest that is overwhelming and undeniable unless you haven't watched any of the last three seasons.

The thing is, we don't need a second central midfielder, he is doing what Matic was supposed to do anyway if Pogba was around, and worse. What we have been lacking without Pogba (and dare I say Fellaini) is the other midfielder pushing forward and giving defences one more thing to worry about. Neither Herrera nor Matic do that much at all.

 

[sunama]

without a doubt.

Mourinho thanks Fellaini in his post-game comments. He said that Fellaini trained for the first time only yesterday.

Jose loves players who work hard and "run through brick walls" for the team. Their mentality appears to be more important than their footballing ability.

 

[iKeano]

Worst players have.

Don’t get your point... worse players in better squads yes. When you see Citeah bring on Jesus and De Silva while we bring on Fellaini and Lingard, shows how off the pace we are.

Not Fellaini’s fault, it’s Josés fault. That cameo today by lanky was car crash though.

 

[ti vu]

He had one chance where he took it down on his chest and fluffed the finish. There were other chances before he came on. Rashford should have scored rather than closing his eyes. Lukaku forced Courtois into a decent save.

I replied because you said he was our most creative player, yet he didn’t create anything when he came on. He won a few headers but his passing was shocking.

I agree that our attacking play is poor. Fellaini didn’t do anything to rectify that though.

I think creative is bad word to use in this case. I'll us the word outlet. With Fellaini, we're better than having invisible Mkhi. While we can't win every aerial ball, the probability increases and Chelsea was pushed back more. It's not directly exactly creating chance but affect the flow of the game, where we couldn't get out of our half in second half prior to Fellaini sub. If we have better quality from width area and from the back in term of on ball ability, being able to push the opponent back like with Fellaini sub today, might be a game changing sub. Problem is even if we succeed to affect the flow of the game, we still don't have quality to make anything from it.

 

[Antonedwin]

Wasn't the worse yesterday made clumsy mistake but after that most of our chance coming from him. Which is sad cause no one else can make chance of their own

 

[mancan92]

He is in horrible form and has been so all season. Does nothing but fall over and moan.

Makes important interceptions, doesn't hide, works himself into the ground.

Herrera is being unfairly jumped on

 

[breakout67]

Genuinely a better no.10 than Mkhitaryan. Which is sad because Fellaidinho's best attribute is his chest control.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Jose loves players who work hard and "run through brick walls" for the team. Their mentality appears to be more important than their footballing ability.

Mhikitaryan is the perfect example of that - technically should be our best or one of our best players but has been a shadow in more games than not. Today, we played a man down with his lack of effort. Coward is not far off

 

[stevoc]

Being Spanish and being about the right size do not make a good midfielder. He did absolutely nothing today. Matic tried so very hard but in the end he was the only midfielder on the pitch for us. Fellaini starts ahead of him every day of the week.

So you are judging Herrera on his performance today but not Fellaini, interesting.

Herrera hasn't been great this season but judging him on last season he's a much better central midfielder than Fellaini. He can defend and pass around his own box for a start which is always a plus for a midfielder.

Fellaini's strengths lie elsewhere.

 

[ManUtd1999]

Herrera is not effective at all. Spends 90 minutes without anything noticeable, game after game.

Fellaini is well ahead of him.

 

[Kapardin]

So you are judging Herrera on his performance today but not Fellaini, interesting.

Herrera hasn't been great this season but judging him on last season he's a much better central midfielder than Fellaini. He can defend and pass around his own box for a start which is always a plus for a midfielder.

Fellaini's strengths lie elsewhere.

What? Fellaini is twice the player Herrera is and I don't even think Fellaini is anything special. This was my opinion even last season despite Herrera getting all the plaudits (let's not get into that).

Firstly, this was a cameo and Fellaini was thrown into the deep end while clearly not even fully fit. So saying that it is unfair for anyone to defend Fellaini, a late unfit sub and slating Herrera, a starter for the past few games, is pretty much off the mark. Not being Zidane or Iniesta, of course Fellaini couldn't cope with it and made mistakes. But in the end, he did whatever he was asked to, fairly well.

He will always be average and sometimes do stupid things like giving away a penalty, etc, but the good things he does as a squad player will outweigh them. More importantly, he contributes more to the attack than Mkhi or Herrera ever would.

 

[Ashley R1+O]

Not match fit, but came on and gave it his all and can't complain about his mentality. Wish there was more of it running through the squad.

 

[Ace of Spades]

Herrera is not effective at all. Spends 90 minutes without anything noticeable, game after game.

Fellaini is well ahead of him.

He is not, both are squad players and have different strengths and uses. Need to use them right.

Your criticism of Herrera is as excessive as people had of Fellaini before.

 

[DenisIrwin]

Thought he was shit today. The international break comes at the perfect time for him. He started the season fairly slowly, coming on for the last 15 minutes or so and didn't do much. Then he got some game time with Belgium and began to get better with every outing for us. Let's hope that pattern repeats.

 

[MuranoLover]

Not match fit, but came on and gave it his all and can't complain about his mentality. Wish there was more of it running through the squad.

Exactly !

His mistakes were only due to lack of game play , but the desire was all there and if it was amongst at least half of the squad , we would have won the game

 

[Varun]

He will never win a Premier League medal.

He's going nowhere till mourinho is here at the very least so let's hope you're wrong.

 

[Canagel]

Fellaini is 10 times the player Herrera is. The only time we looked like scoring was when Fellaini was on the field. I loved Herrera when first came but now he's just annoying. Constantly disrupting the flow of the game with little tackles all of the pitch and constantly moaning with the ref. The problem is we know what Fellaini's threats are and how to utilize him in the best way but I can't figure out what Herrera is bringing to the team right now. I wonder why the club haven't taken up the 1 year option on his contract yet. Either way I can't see him lasting long at the club. Fellaini isn't good enough to start either but I think he is a valuable squad player and I value his contribution to the team.

 

[iKeano]

He's going nowhere till mourinho is here at the very least so let's hope you're wrong.

Fellaini will never win a premier league title no matter what team he’s at. A team like City would never buy someone of his lack of quality and a team so reliant on someone like him - as Utd and José seem to be - will never genuinely complete for a PL title.
Don’t worry though, José will be gone by end of next season, he’s already started burning bridges with the OT fan base by needlessly picking fights that aren’t there in an bid to orchestrate an exit.

 

[stevoc]

What? Fellaini is twice the player Herrera is and I don't even think Fellaini is anything special. This was my opinion even last season despite Herrera getting all the plaudits (let's not get into that).

Firstly, this was a cameo and Fellaini was thrown into the deep end while clearly not even fully fit. So saying that it is unfair for anyone to defend Fellaini, a late unfit sub and slating Herrera, a starter for the past few games, is pretty much off the mark. Not being Zidane or Iniesta, of course Fellaini couldn't cope with it and made mistakes. But in the end, he did whatever he was asked to, fairly well.

He will always be average and sometimes do stupid things like giving away a penalty, etc, but the good things he does as a squad player will outweigh them. More importantly, he contributes more to the attack than Mkhi or Herrera ever would.

Fellaini is 10 times the player Herrera is. The only time we looked like scoring was when Fellaini was on the field. I loved Herrera when first came but now he's just annoying. Constantly disrupting the flow of the game with little tackles all of the pitch and constantly moaning with the ref. The problem is we know what Fellaini's threats are and how to utilize him in the best way but I can't figure out what Herrera is bringing to the team right now. I wonder why the club haven't taken up the 1 year option on his contract yet. Either way I can't see him lasting long at the club. Fellaini isn't good enough to start either but I think he is a valuable squad player and I value his contribution to the team.

This is the sort of nonsense that sums up the Fellaini thread in a nutshell. Wild exaggeration (good & bad) and the tearing down of other players to excuse poor performances, which happens in other performance threads also. Herrera is the usual target in here and Mkhitaryan in the Lingard thread.

I find it hard to wrap my head around anyone who has watched football for any period of time being of the opinion that Fellaini is a better central midfielder than Herrera who was the player of the year last year.

As footballers overall there could be an argument as to who is more effective and i can understand a person preferring one over the other. But in a direct comparison purely as central midfielders it shouldn't even be up for debate.

 

[Kapardin]

This is the sort of nonsense that sums up the Fellaini thread in a nutshell. Wild exaggeration (good & bad) and the tearing down of other players to excuse poor performances, which happens in other performance threads also. Herrera is the usual target in here and Mkhitaryan in the Lingard thread.

I find it hard to wrap my head around anyone who has watched football for any period of time being of the opinion that Fellaini is a better central midfielder than Herrera who was the player of the year last year.

As footballers overall there could be an argument as to who is more effective and i can understand a person preferring one over the other. But in a direct comparison purely as central midfielders it shouldn't even be up for debate.

It is an opinion shared by more than a few. Just because you do not agree with it doesn't mean it is hyperbole or nonsense.

We have had so many debates on this in the forum, let us leave it at that.