Clearing off the line (not sure it was actually going in) may have been one of the key moments in the match. Apart from that he was ok.
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If Herrera or Pogba played like Fellaini today they would be battered.
The positioning did seem rather strange at times.
He did was expected in a lineup that came to defend.
Not good, looked sluggish and was dissapointed that he lost his physical duels. That being said, got no protection from the ref.
They sure are.
Well....woeful is probably overdoing it, I felt he was poor on the whole under Moyes, then very few were anything better than average, so he wasn't alone. He did have some good games no doubt, his debut being one of them. He just played within himself on the whole. Disappointing for a £30 million player.
That you defended him from vitriol is a positive, a lot of the abuse was way off at the time and criticisms overly harsh. I would never direct dogs at him just because I don't think he's fit to wear the shirt (which he is) and wish to vent my frustrations in life at a footballer, which incidentally I don't. like to think I'm objective in my criticisms but would happily engage in debate or be corrected.
Him and Matic together in central midfield is possibly one of the slowest in the league. Need Pogba to return real quick
Think Herrera would work much better with Matic. Don't see what Fellaini does that Matic can't do.
Hate to break it to you but at this moment in time Fellaini > Herrera.
Herera has shown nothing in the games he has come on so is rightly down in the pecing order Fellaini scores, assists, and helps in defence.
I think Fellaini would have scored that chance Herrera skied with half a goal at his mercy. He was our second best player today after Jones.
Said it last week if we continue to play him in a midfield 2 we will get dominated by most teams we play and seen nothing today to change my mind. It's not Fellaini's fault either for the most part, he just doesn't have the passing ability or mobility to play in a midfield 2.
If we are going to play 4231 then it has to be Herrera in there beside Matic.
If we are going to play 4231 then it has to be Herrera in there beside Matic.
He doesn"t have the read of the play. Against selfish opposition, his tough physical break up play would work, but since Soton is well passing it between themselves, Fellaini showed his weakness. They just played around him and he couldn't do anything about it and being left chasing shadow.
This guy gets it, fellani is being judged to a much lower standard than his peers 'cause he is a limited player but that is not fair on the others
Headless chicken today, was OK until Herrara came on, completely lost his posistion from there on. Wasn't picking anyone up and just ran around the area between the centre circle and our 18 yard box. May not have been his fault due to the tactical changes but it was eveident and allowed Southampton so much room in front of our box.
Agreed.
Pogba and Matic are obviously our top 2 midfielders. Then Fellaini, and only then Herrera.
I didn't see anything of Herrera so far this season to justify him being ahead of Fellaini-- no threat on goal, no assists and no real presence.
Today, he was out best midfielder. He should've been awarded a penalty early in the match, and he was fouled constantly. A better ref would've punished Soton for their fouls on him, but we ran into a very biased ref today. Add to that Lukaku choosing not to pass to him when he actually was available (in fact, Herrera could've also passed the ball to him, but that wasn't as clear as the case with Lukaku).
If Fellaini missed that chance that Herrera missed he would be battered...
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He was moved further up the pitch. Herrera was the one was was leaving massive gaps on our right hand side.
Fellaini had an ok game. Didn't do anything standout, nor did he do anything horrendous. The same can be said for nearly everyone on the pitch today, bar possibly Matic.
Fellaini's 4/10 is Pogba's 6/10. Different measuring standards.
He is best as an impact sub, not good enough as a starter, at least not in a two man midfield.
He has been in good form, but that was as a sub off the bench. As a starter he has looked distinctly average.
Mourinho needs to address this issue, till Pogba gets back.
He has been in good form, but that was as a sub off the bench. As a starter he has looked distinctly average.
Mourinho needs to address this issue, till Pogba gets back.
Fellaini is better at both attacking and defending than Herrera. That's why he's undroppable at the moment.
Not as good as pogba, who until recently was the most expensive player ever. Not saying a massive amount
In a game without us playing well (or more specifically having a measure of control) of course he's going to stand out with his lack of basic ability, intelligence, discipline and effort. Put him in a team that's dominating and expect nothing more than side wise passing and occasionally roughing up a defender and he'll be golden.
I think an argument could at least be made that he's maybe better at attacking than Herrera, though Herrera with 2 goals 11 assists last year compared to Fellaini's 4 & 2 suggests it's not clear cut. But i don't see how it could be argued that he's better at defending.
Mourinho started last year with Fellaini as the defensive midfielder quickly realized he wasn't suited to the role and then turned to Herrera to fill the position. He had a very good season there was player of the year for United, and was arguably the best defensive midfielder in England last season.
I don't think he was good today. He had some key moments but everytime he or we won the ball back, he gave away the ball cheaply a few times. Him & Matic struggled with the high press.
Said it before the game today, should never be used in a midfield 2. He is at his best when he can roam forward in a midfield 3.
You can't have someone with lacking positional awareness, bad short passing and limited mobility in a midfield 2.
You can't have someone with lacking positional awareness, bad short passing and limited mobility in a midfield 2.
He did well today but pretty much under any prem side we would struggle with Matic and Fellaini like we did today. Thought he did well though and that he a took a kicking today and the ref didnt protect him once.
He should have played vs Stoke because these away games is usually where you need some grit and someone to defend high balls.
I hope to see Herrera back soon, nothing against Fellaini just think Matic is better and needs a more mobile CM alongside him.
He should have played vs Stoke because these away games is usually where you need some grit and someone to defend high balls.
I hope to see Herrera back soon, nothing against Fellaini just think Matic is better and needs a more mobile CM alongside him.
Played really well today. That clearance 
Nothing standout??? What about the goal line clearance that essentially saved the game for us?
Nothing standout??? What about the goal line clearance that essentially saved the game for us?
That was great!! I think defensively he's great as well. So yeah some positive sides. But can't ignore the negative side as well that he gave the ball away a few times easily.
Caught the second half. Defensively he was great, but going forward he was a passenger. The whole team did pretty poor so I can't put it on him mainly.
I'm baffled by all the comments towards him. Nonexistent? Dominated?
Pellegrino in 2nd half put two strikers upfront, delivering more crosses and it was dangerous. Forget attacking in that 2nd half, Mourinho was right to not play Martial and solidified the lead. Marouane however did whatever he can to protect the lead. He was very important and we got the win.
Some games we can try to win 4-0 at the latter stages of the game. But not that game, Southampton was playing like a proper home team, and it was bloody dangerous.
Pellegrino in 2nd half put two strikers upfront, delivering more crosses and it was dangerous. Forget attacking in that 2nd half, Mourinho was right to not play Martial and solidified the lead. Marouane however did whatever he can to protect the lead. He was very important and we got the win.
Some games we can try to win 4-0 at the latter stages of the game. But not that game, Southampton was playing like a proper home team, and it was bloody dangerous.
Reasonably solid I thought. We obviously miss Pogba though. Felli and Matic are quite decent defensively but we lose our ability to control the play with possession. As long as we keep scrapping and picking up points until Pogba is back I am fine with him starting though.
Herrera - no goal threat, no aerial presence, not really that reliable on the ball, no passing range, physically quite weak, no use at set pieces, can be used in high press due to energy and mobility
Fellaini - some goal threat, massive aerial presence, reliable on the ball, no passing range, physically strong, excellent at set pieces, cannot be used in high press due to lack of mobility
So it's pretty obvious why you would select Maroune over Herrera tbh! Horses for courses, Herrera will play Liverpool, Chelsea, City, Arsenal etc....
Fellaini - some goal threat, massive aerial presence, reliable on the ball, no passing range, physically strong, excellent at set pieces, cannot be used in high press due to lack of mobility
So it's pretty obvious why you would select Maroune over Herrera tbh! Horses for courses, Herrera will play Liverpool, Chelsea, City, Arsenal etc....
He has never been good in a midfield two, he has always performed well in a midfield three with being the furthest forward and creating havoc in an around the opponent penalty box. Its no co-incident after Pogba went off against Basel, since then against Everton and now Southampton we have failed to take control of the match. and we needed to rely on DDG and our defending to bail us out(and Rooney ). I am 100% confident if we keep playing him instead of Herrera against Top 6 teams away we will look like a bottom half team holding for our lives and camped in our box. We need Pogba back first of all, if he is not there play Herrera.
). I am 100% confident if we keep playing him instead of Herrera against Top 6 teams away we will look like a bottom half team holding for our lives and camped in our box. We need Pogba back first of all, if he is not there play Herrera.Only September and we're already down to bare bones in midfield. 
Bad news, but I hope that he will be available to start against Crystal Palace.
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"Many felt that he did not get fair treatment from referee Craig Pawson, who gave a free kick against Fellaini for having his shirt pulled in the box, while Long's challenge went unpunished."
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/man-utd-team-news-fellaini-13673197
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Man Utd 4:0 Crystal Palace
No posts for Marouane?
Been great. Better than Matic even, this half.
Most have been posting in the other thread, to be fair.
Another good performance from him so far, though.
His timing of runs into the box is fantastic.
Another good performance from him so far, though.
His timing of runs into the box is fantastic.
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