If that is what he gave him a yellow card for then it has been dealt with.
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How can you say he is negative when Fellaini (a guy you claim is not a DM) is the DM. His fullbacks attack all the time and he then plays Pogba at CM and ibra Rooney and two of martial/rash/lingard/mata/mkhi
But yeah he is defensive.
Now come on, anything positive about him would mean the majority of us was wrong? The vultures will continue to circle waiting for him to feck up to prove that their hypothesis was right....Sadly like the Fletcher, O'shea, Butt and Phil N et al before him.....
i've forgot more about football than you'll ever know kid. Have your sugar puffs and go to bed.
Great rationale. Sound argument. It's been a pleasure.
This. Nail on head.
Cringe. Hater? What age are you?
I thought as a supporter we have to support all the players who are dropped into the team by the coach (he works with them dailey). Some of us are too prejudiced and start complaining from minute one, when the player doesn't suit them.
Seems like you forget everything you watch honestly, time to start fighting that amensia you got going on.
http://www.thesportbible.com/footba...aini-spit-at-manchester-citys-nolito-20160912
This is doing rounds on the internet. Apparently he spat at Nolito or so they say. City fans couldn't wait for something like that. Also apparently he knocked Kolarov's teeth or something. Anybody knows anything about that?
This is doing rounds on the internet. Apparently he spat at Nolito or so they say. City fans couldn't wait for something like that. Also apparently he knocked Kolarov's teeth or something. Anybody knows anything about that?
I posted something from the M.E.N earlier about him supposedly knocking out a tooth from Kolorov and others thought it had been dealt with. Don't know about the spitting. If they have proof on film of that then he will be in trouble.
It only took one gameweek from Agüero ban for Fellini to initiate his own potential sanction. The image evidence of the spit is inconclusive as that white stuff could easily be photoshopped on there. A video of both action will be much clearer to analyze.
Exactly. It would have to be video evidence, then it is proving that he deliberately spat at Nolito.
Some people on here really hate our players, you'd even struggle to find this much hate towards our players on a rival forum. Some people really have a strange idea about what supporting a football team means.
Either that or photographer took the photo in the exact moment as the spit went out of his mouth.
And his mouth don't seem to be in the position of spitting, they're kind of closed.
I thought Kolorov pretty much just ran into Fellaini's arm at the time too, anyone got a replay?
If Fellaini was more agile he'd be great.
Sadly couldn't get close enough to KdB or Silva.
Sadly couldn't get close enough to KdB or Silva.
I also struggle to understand why people actually hate their own players.
It defeats the point of being a supporter who can only perform one objective task ... which is to be supportive!
If my auntie had balls she'd be my uncle.
So.. You'd have two uncles then?
If our cat had been a cow, we could have milked her under the stove.
Fellaini potential ban
Marouane Fellaini will find out later if the FA are ready to charge him after Saturday’s elbow incident that left Kolarov missing a tooth.
Reports suggest he has been told they are examining the incident.
If found guilty it would be a three match ban, meaning he would miss Watford, Northampton and Leicester.
He won't get banned. It wasn't an elbow and shouldn't be a foul from the first place. If he gets the ban, FA is found guilty to be the most disgusting organisation.
Not even closed mate you and @B20 were just being biased.
- Silva wasn't threat that much in first half because Fellaini.
- De Bruyne was toying with Bailly not with Fellaini.
- Fellaini made 5 interception in first half and you don't become a headless chicken by making 5 interceptions.
- Pogba failed to track back De Bruyne for the first goal, again one of the example that it wasn't Fellaini why De Bruyne ran riot in half space between our midfield and defense.
- Total contribution:
Tackles - 3
Interceptions - 7
Clearances - 3
Fouls - 2
Aerials won - 7
The tactics had everything to do with that.
A load of absolute nonsense. Was not even a yellow card let alone a foul.Fellaini potential ban
Marouane Fellaini will find out later if the FA are ready to charge him after Saturday’s elbow incident that left Kolarov missing a tooth.
Reports suggest he has been told they are examining the incident.
If found guilty it would be a three match ban, meaning he would miss Watford, Northampton and Leicester.
edit: Or could have been later in the match?
Bit of a silly argument really considering how much hatred Moyes and van Gaal got. You only have to look at Arsenal to see what happens when you continually support a manager who just isn't up to the job anymore. When players are stealing a living at your club, holding your team back, costing your team points they're not exactly going to be revered by the fans are they?
That wasn't even an elbow or a foul. A loose swinging arm in a fast-paced, full-blooded match, and Fellaini gets a 3-match ban because of poor Kolarov's broken tooth?
What the actual feck! What about Bravo being investigated then?
The FA will look at this. It is seemingly okay with De Bruyne smacking Ander Herrera in the face though.
That's utter nonsense mate. Yes Lingard and Mkhitariyan were horrendous but to say others were ball watching is silly. Fellaini and Pogba both got caught out several times. Don't have to bleat on about how only Fellaini gave a feck because that is nonsense.
Rewatch some scenes if you want to know why. Pogba left Fellaini on his own in midfield several times during the first half, resulting in huge gaps right in front of the defense, letting Silva and De Bruyne run wild. I don't really rate Fellaini but he wasn't the main problem in that CM pairing. Nothing much he could do on his own against two of the best attacking midfielders in the league. If Pogba had been granted freedom by Mou to go on runs down the wings or to push further up the pitch then fair enough. He still could and should have tracked back better to regain his CM position as soon as City started their press or got in possession though, or the respective winger (depending on the situation) should have moved more centrally for cover. I blame Mourinho for letting that farce of a game go on for an entirety of 45 minutes. He should have revamped the formation after the first 15 minutes, as it was plain to see what was going wrong that early into the game. Either tell Pogba to stay back and play a more disciplined game, or wake up Lingard and Mkhitarian to stick to the game plan. Either way as I saw it Fellaini had a decent game and wasn't to blame for those goals.
You beat me to it.
@NK86 Im going to make your job easier so you don't have to read two very similar long posts from two users. Just like what @SV_Planegg said you might want or need to rewatch some scenes.
Are the FA truly looking into that?
Not even contesting the fact that Pogba had a poor first half. However, this opinion that @Mike09 was providing about only Fellaini giving two fecks about the match while others were just ball watching is nonsense. I saw Fellaini ball watching several times in the first half. Once when De Bruyne was right beside him making a run and I could see the pass coming, yet Fellaini stood there and was simply by passed with a simple ball which he could not intercept as he was not prepared for that. I don't need to rewatch it since I saw the game live.
As for Fellaini not being at fault for the goals, who said otherwise? Pogba too wasn't at fault for the goals. However, both had poor games and I don't for one minute suggest that Fellaini was better than Pogba in midfield as they both had a mare doing their defensive duties.
You are silly! I didn't say Fellaini was the "only one" gave feck I said Fellaini was one of the player who gave feck.
"Once when De Bruyne.." exactly "Once"!! Like I already mentioned, you don't expect a single player to do everything by himself if none closed down the passer from the first place. The one you mentioned I remember it well. But Bailly who marked no one at that time also need to react quickly for De Bruyne's run to cover it but he was ball watching. Fellaini had 7 interceptions and 5 at first half. Just because he missed one or two doesn't mean he was poor, the others did worse.
Pogba wasn't fault at goals? Well actually he was part of it, Im going to remind you that the player who lost De Bruyne from the first goal was Pogba. When he lost him he didn't track him back. You were mentioning and remembering Fellaini once loses De Bruyne making a run but you didn't remember that Pogba didn't track back or follow De Bruyne when De Bruyne was next to him and made a run that caused the first goal. Like what I and @SV_Planegg said you might want to rewatch some scenes.
I wonder why Mou insists with Fellaini. Maybe his plan is to physically smash the opposition, given that we have also Val, Pogba, Zlatan, etc. I'd be worried in that case though. Such a plan would work mostly vs the bottom half teams. I can't see a team with so many physical players fare well vs top teams, technique and explosive legs trump physicality almost always.
Because he's our best option for that position. Simple as that.
Whether he is the best options depends entirely on the type of football we want to play. "Best option" without context makes no sense. And I'm worried about the plan to win the PL through physical domination. We'd struggle to make the top 4, let alone win the title with such tactics, IMO. I predicted already after the Soton game that this physicality thing is way overrated on here and wouldn't work vs top teams. I'm sure we'll have similar problems vs Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs if we persist with such a plan. We are slow and lack intensity in our game.
He definetly had his share of guilt with that first goal, when he decided to not stick to De Bruyne who was his man to track and mark. De Bruyne wasn't even that fast, but Pogba decided to just watch the situation unfold from behind instead of passing him to get another body between KDB and De Gea, when the long ball was obviously coming.
For the second goal he (again) just jogged alongside Sterling (6 feet away from the box) instead of applying pressure, as the City player cut into the middle and had all the time in the world picking out Iheanacho, who then found De Bruyne and so on. I won't go as far as putting the blame on him in that scene even though he (like others) could have done better there.
Overall it was just a very lacklustre performance from Pogba, but I expect him to turn that experience into strength and perform a lot better in the upcoming games because he certainly has it in him to play on a world class level and I expect him to do so in the future.
As for Fellaini, I thought he did OK. He wasn't to blame for any of the goals and tried his best despite being isolated in midfield on several occassions due to Pogba's illdisciplined positioning and lack of workrate, combined with the lack of tactical discipline of Mkhitarian and Lingard. But that's as far as exuses for him go.
In my eyes he's just a pointless player with no real redeeming qualities besides heading and his work ethic. Not the worst midfielder out there but not the player United need to partner Pogba either.
The ideal pivot to be played as a partner to pogba or behind him would be someone with Schweinsteiger's qualities who's not finished at the top level. I thought Schneiderlin could be that player, but not at the moment it seems.
Maybe someone like Martinez from Bayern? When Boateng returns he'll probably be third choice at CB there, while he could play the pivot for United as first choice. Add a nice little payrise to the mix and he might be gettable. Strong in the air and with his feet as well as a monster in direct duels. Can read the game quite well and is pretty good at dictating play from deep. Only concern would be his injuries.
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How was it Pogba's job to pick up De Bruyne? Pogba was the further ahead of the two midfielders. If anything, De Bruyne was Fellaini's to pick.
I am quoting just that one glaring time. He lost his man multiple times. Anyway, I think both Pogba and Fellaini were largely poor that game so I am not trying to discuss this further.
Why is Fellaini taking shit for a game where he was largely left alone up agianst Silva, De Bruyne and co. while Paul Super Hero Pogba goes fannying off into no mans land and was largely a complete no show and gets made excuses by the majority?
Fellaini was in the thick of the melee from first minute to last along with Rooney and Valencia, and to a lesser extent Shaw and Baily. Who all come away as largely positive in a dissapointing result, and yet on here its the usual scapegoats once again taking all the flak.
B20 at least comes in with decent points, ala the fact Fellaini is a player who will chase the ball where as a real intelligent mid like Carrick would shut down the passing lanes and step into vacant positions in a disciplined manner which would be far more beneficial... Ok fair play, good point.
On the other end of the spectrum we have horrible, obnoxious posters like ikeano just sprouting the usual agenda garbage and thowing around insults.
Fellaini was in the thick of the melee from first minute to last along with Rooney and Valencia, and to a lesser extent Shaw and Baily. Who all come away as largely positive in a dissapointing result, and yet on here its the usual scapegoats once again taking all the flak.
B20 at least comes in with decent points, ala the fact Fellaini is a player who will chase the ball where as a real intelligent mid like Carrick would shut down the passing lanes and step into vacant positions in a disciplined manner which would be far more beneficial... Ok fair play, good point.
On the other end of the spectrum we have horrible, obnoxious posters like ikeano just sprouting the usual agenda garbage and thowing around insults.
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