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Moyes rated him, Wilmots rated him, LVG rated him and now it looks like Jose (arguably the best manager in the world) rates him.
LVG only tried to sell him in the first season and he couldn't because he picked up an injury. He turned into one of the most important members of the squad afterwards.
Ironically enough, we played our best football with Fellaini in the CAM under Van Gaal. He bagged goals against Spurs, City and Palace at the end of 14/15 which guaranteed our Champions League spot. At the end of last season, he scored goals against Everton and West Ham in the FA Cup which guaranteed our FA Cup final spot. And we would have almost definitely beaten West Ham in the league to guarantee Champions League again if Fellaini wasn't suspended. The fact that both of the goals West Ham scored in that game came from set pieces only strengthens my point.
Yeah cos when he was on the pitch we were great defensively on set pieces weren't we? we were a shambles on set pieces all year long.
I always cringe when people come out with statements like "How is he a professional footballer?", like they could do any better. I even heard someone once say that he's Sunday League quality... Absolute rubbish talk.
How do you know they couldn't do better? have you seen them play?
Some people don't understand the game. They we should play the same Starting 11 every game, when in reality, the best managers change it up to suit their tactics and counter their opponent. We have a squad of 30+, and like it or not, we need Fellaini in the tough physical games. Cause who do we have that's stronger? We need someone that will bully players and get stuck in. People say he concedes fouls... who cares? He's there to break up play. If conceding a foul stops an attack, then job well done. That's what he's there for.
Funny that, Jose said he wants to work with 20 outfield players. And if you have followed Jose's career, you would know that he doesn't rotate that much. He has a settled team and thats who plays day in day out. Anf Fellaini does stupid fouls, not clever ones when a team is in danger but just plain stupid fouls which are unnecessary. Kante is there to break up play and you don't see him doing a bunch of stupid fouls. Fellaini is no DM/CM never has been and never will be.
Like I said before, people will remember this sloppy error which can easily be put down to the quality of the pitch... but they will happily forget about Smalling nearly costing us the FA Cup with his stupidity. Why is that?
We are trying to be like Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern etc. And Fellaini would not get in any of those teams and that all I care about to be honest.
Its not about agendas or anything persona;, I just think he is an embodiment of the things I don't like in football.
I have to admit I was screaming at my TV for Fellaini to get out of my team but after calming down, I realize that it could've easily happened to someone else. It was a bit rich that Jose was blaming it on the grass, though, as true as that might have been.
Van gaal Schooled Messi with vlaar and de jong. Doesn't really mean Messi isn't quality. (This isn't saying he is messi but not performing in a game means nothing)
And again, none of the teams he play for ever employ the long ball tactic. Yet he seems to play well enough for them. I am not saying he is world class but clearly comments like he is unable to play football makes me question your footballing awareness. If he wasn't able to play then why would he be consistently selected for teams by different coaches? It's not like it's one coach. It's 4 different coaches (none of whom use the style you attribute to). If he was useless, they would just not select him like they did with januzaj, Zaha and all.
Moyes rated him, Wilmots rated him, LVG rated him and now it looks like Jose (arguably the best manager in the world) rates him.
LVG only tried to sell him in the first season and he couldn't because he picked up an injury. He turned into one of the most important members of the squad afterwards.
Ironically enough, we played our best football with Fellaini in the CAM under Van Gaal. He bagged goals against Spurs, City and Palace at the end of 14/15 which guaranteed our Champions League spot. At the end of last season, he scored goals against Everton and West Ham in the FA Cup which guaranteed our FA Cup final spot. And we would have almost definitely beaten West Ham in the league to guarantee Champions League again if Fellaini wasn't suspended. The fact that both of the goals West Ham scored in that game came from set pieces only strengthens my point.
I always cringe when people come out with statements like "How is he a professional footballer?", like they could do any better. I even heard someone once say that he's Sunday League quality... Absolute rubbish talk.
Some people don't understand the game. They we should play the same Starting 11 every game, when in reality, the best managers change it up to suit their tactics and counter their opponent. We have a squad of 30+, and like it or not, we need Fellaini in the tough physical games. Cause who do we have that's stronger? We need someone that will bully players and get stuck in. People say he concedes fouls... who cares? He's there to break up play. If conceding a foul stops an attack, then job well done. That's what he's there for.
Like I said before, people will remember this sloppy error which can easily be put down to the quality of the pitch... but they will happily forget about Smalling nearly costing us the FA Cup with his stupidity. Why is that?
What does Messi or LVG had to do with it?
Fellaini was at his very best as no 10 with Everton. They used to play a very direct football.
He was also largely good for us in 14/15. Also wasn't he scoring for fun for Belgium during Euro qualifiers?
Zlatan is a striker. Fellaini is a midfielder.
And I don't think Pogba is stronger than him. Fellaini's presence on the pitch is physically bigger and I think if you were dribbling against the two of them, Fellaini would be the harder one to come up against. He would just break up play by standing infront of you.
What the hell is he meant to be? Where is his best position? Serious question. After 3 seasons, I have no idea where his ideal position would be in any formation.
He was brilliant for Everton playing up front, but I can't image how painful it would be to see him playing in an advanced position in this team.
What the hell is he meant to be? Where is his best position? Serious question. After 3 seasons, I have no idea where his ideal position would be in any formation.
He was brilliant for Everton playing up front, but I can't image how painful it would be to see him playing in an advanced position in this team.
Box to box or defensive anchor.What the hell is he meant to be? Where is his best position? Serious question. After 3 seasons, I have no idea where his ideal position would be in any formation.
He was brilliant for Everton playing up front, but I can't image how painful it would be to see him playing in an advanced position in this team.
He doesn't have tactical intelligence or discipline to play as a defensive midfielderBox to box or defensive anchor.
That is if you watched his 3/4 season at Everton in that role and decided that is the best role for him. He's played the majority of his career as a defensive anchor or a box to box player. (Or final third to box at Everton, the Tim Cahill role basically.) Those are his natural roles. I don't consider filling in as an attacker as part of his natural skillset. His all-round game is better suited to arriving in the box on the overload rather than setting the team up to play that way.He doesn't have tactical intelligence or discipline to play as a defensive midfielder
And he lacks passing skills, agility and basic ball control ability to be effective as a b2b
His best role is clearly the one he performed in Everton in his last season there, a target-man in the number 10 position, for a team that's built around his strengths
As far as United is concerned, nothing of note. "plan B" is probably the worst answer of all. Maybe some he can be useful somewhere else.What the hell is he meant to be? Where is his best position? Serious question. After 3 seasons, I have no idea where his ideal position would be in any formation.
He was brilliant for Everton playing up front, but I can't image how painful it would be to see him playing in an advanced position in this team.
Yes, and he played for a midtable team without any real success - until his breakthrough season as a n.10, of course.That is if you watched his 3/4 season at Everton in that role and decided that is the best role for him. He's played the majority of his career as a defensive anchor or a box to box player
I honestly don't think he has the skillset that is suited for any position or role on a football field, certainly not for a team that aspires to be amongst the best in the world. "Plan B", as some people have said, is the only useful option I can see him as at United. It's a shame, because I'm actually quite fond of his personality on the pitch. He's a dirty, no-nonsense bastard, who'll get stuck in; something we have missed for a while, and something you need in a successful team.His best position is in an advanced free role behind (central/left) of the striker. In my opinion his passing isn't good enough to play in a 2 man midfield we seen that last year when he played there, and his positional discipline also leaves a lot to be desired he often leaves his midfield partner exposed when playing there.
But further forward he can be very effective, and thats where he has had his best games for us i reckon.
I honestly don't think he has the skillset that is suited for any position or role on a football field, certainly not for a team that aspires to be amongst the best in the world. "Plan B", as some people have said, is the only useful option I can see him as at United. It's a shame, because I'm actually quite fond of his personality on the pitch. He's a dirty, no-nonsense bastard, who'll get stuck in; something we have missed for a while, and something you need in a successful team.
Out of this 11, I'd expect Herrera to be the one dropped.I asked a while back whether Mou would see him as his Matic. It's starting to seem like he favours him in there or are we expecting him to be dropped for Pogba?
Was thinking the same. He cleared all the crosses into the box in the last few minutes. Will be an asset on both ends of the pitch.Our best player, in my opinion. Defensively fantastic. As I said, dont be surprised to see Fellaini with Pogba.
