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He is so damn useless. I cannot believe some of the players that he has outlasted at the club. He is a mid-table player who should be at a mid-table club, at best.
Fellaini is here for the long haul isn't he?
And Carrick apparently in talks over a new contract.
These two better be playing our Europa League games next season and NOT the PL fixtures.
And Carrick apparently in talks over a new contract.
These two better be playing our Europa League games next season and NOT the PL fixtures.
I've only got this 1 post left for the day. I don't hate Fellaini the person, but my god do I hate Fellaini the player.
Then why watch United at all? Why even bother supporting the club if you know that one player is going to make you 'so irritated' that you have to moan about it. That makes even less sense.
Actually I feel your comment makes no sense. You don't get irritated watching Fellaini play for United? Let's take it back, how about when you watched Bellion, or Kleberson, or Liam Miller? Maybe William Prunier? Did it irritate you to watch players who blatantly weren't good enough to play for United playing 90 minutes? Why shouldn't someone moan about watching a player who isn't good enough play?
But yeah. Right. We should absolutely enjoy every single player playing for United when they're not good enough. And heaven forbid, we, as fans, voice our opinions and moan about it.
If Fellaini scored the winner in the Champions League final, some people would still complain.
He's here, he's been here for a while now. 3 managers have favored him. Maybe some people don't know as much about football as they think they do.
He's here, he's been here for a while now. 3 managers have favored him. Maybe some people don't know as much about football as they think they do.
2 of those 3 managers have been absolutely appalling and ended up sacked. The 3rd has a lot of people unhappy with him.
Maybe those managers know less about football than they think they do?
Eder scored the winner for Portugal in the Euros. Doesn't make him a good player or worthy of being anywhere near their first XI.
You're right. Jimmy from Salford knows more about tactics and quality than Jose Mourinho does.
You could argue it does. Portugal have no better strikers than him really.
I agree with you. It's unlikely that Jimmy / dirkey knows more. Should we stop having opinions? What would be the point of this forum in that case? Can people not make mistakes? Fellaini is quite simply not a good enough player to start, let alone play 90 minutes, for Manchester United. I don't care if the current manager, nor other managers believe he is. People make mistakes. Fergie made mistakes.
Incidentally, a quick search:
Carrick has been played by every manager since he joined the club. Now being rewarded by the current manager.
Blind should be our first choice left back. Never has been since he joined the club.
Two centre halves playing regularly this year, and Smalling last year under the manager etc.
It seems that at times, Jaybomb from wherever knows more than the manager too.
It just suits his narrative in this particular thread to use "managers know more" as an argument.
You're the one who said the managers don't know as much as they think they do. Criticising the players and legitimately thinking you know better than Mourinho is a different story.
That was a rhetorical question. I was basically saying your assertion that 3 managers have picked him means he's a good player is incorrect in my opinion. Managers make mistakes. Two of those three managers in particular have been hopeless.
The last 3-4 managers have no doubt favoured players you don't particularly rate also. It's a pointless argument, people can have an opinion on players without them thinking they know more about football than Mourinho.
The perfect description.
I don't even know where he is meant to be playing half the time, he moves like a piece of deadwood on a stagnant pond.
Fellaini will always be remembered as the sympol of our failure post SAF , in future when we want to list reasons for our current failure we'll say : " look ! The team at this time had fellaini as a plan b , that explains everything "
Managers just see his hair and lose their mind , he's irresistible for being used as a horrible plan to play long balls and crosses . This will only come to an end when he's sold and managers don't find his hair on the bench and decide to think for better solutions than playing long balls to the afroman .
Can't wait to see Manchester United without Fellaini . Seems it'll take long time sadly .
Managers just see his hair and lose their mind , he's irresistible for being used as a horrible plan to play long balls and crosses . This will only come to an end when he's sold and managers don't find his hair on the bench and decide to think for better solutions than playing long balls to the afroman .
Can't wait to see Manchester United without Fellaini . Seems it'll take long time sadly .
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No.
No.
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No.
He's been one of our most consistent performers in the last two and a bit seasons, literally giving the same level of performance for the entire time while being jeered, booed, harangued and abused non-stop regardless of being good or bad. The narrative won't change whether people recognize his contributions or not... So again, no. Individual player performance rarely irritates me at all where I can't make a logical, critical and quantifiable assessment of what it is. There are eleven players in every team and the opposition eleven players are the ones we should be irritated at.
I just don't really see what the point of going above and beyond in search of negative hyperbolic nonsense does. The sooner people let go of the negativity and understand that Jose values the mental and physical toughness of somebody who will run through walls of him the better. Because it is obvious he's gone through some pretty mentally defeating shite while playing for the club, where his own fans don't like him. Yet he still turns up and fights hard no matter what. Blaming him for every little detail and scapegoating achieves nothing in the end. You'll turn up at the end of the week to watch the team in red regardless of if he is in the team or not. Why let it get in your head and let it get in the way of enjoying the team you support. Seems mental.
I simply can't agree with that bit mate. For me he has blown hot and cold during his time at United. Last year when he had a run in CM he was downright awful for a few months, then when moved further forward again he did well found a bit of form and scored a few in our cup run. He started this season well enough as a DM then his form fell off a cliff, only in the last few months has he looked like a decent player again.
Now to be fair to him he quite clearly isn't a central midfielder, not in a midfield two anyway. Most of his awful periods of form have coincided with playing deeper as a central midfielder as opposed to further forward. Fellaini can be described as many things but being consistent is not one of them for me.
Any team that has Fellaini in the squad will never get to a Champions League Final.
He will never win a Premier League Title either.
Totally agree.
Consistently underwhelming and technically poor.
Consistently bringing the other 10 players average down when he's on the pitch.
Consistently poor in the air despite his length.
Consistently passing sideways and backwards.
Consistent.
Have to agree with all your points. Although Fellaini does sometimes play really well, he's just not reliable. He's so, so, so frustrating when you want the team to play well and he's there misplacing every other pass and generally offering feck all in the middle. I felt like throwing a shoe at the tele on Tuesday.
Based on what?
Im not even sure he does play really well.... I just think when he's less terrible, it looks like he's playing well 'cause we're so used to him being so, so bad. If that makes sense.
My issues with games that he seems to up his performance is that he's been given this role as 'useful against' certain teams. Since when was that a reqousite for a Man Utd player or team? Teams used to have to adjust to our fact, pacy, counter-attacking clinicalness. Now we employ a tall Everton midfielder as a striker and play hoofball.
Utterly depressing.
I rate Fellaini same as I rate Lingard, Jones, Young, Blind, Smalling. Those are players who can be good sometimes but their usual standard is mediocre. It's just Fellaini is hated more because he symbolizes United's decline. I mean, there were so many eyes on United's future with SAF retiring, Moyes taking charge and everyone expecting a couple of world class signings only to witness the worst transfer window which resulted in a panick buy of Fellaini.
He's been on the same level of the players I mentioned and this season I would include Rashford & Martial who've been underwhelming. Now add Rooney, Darmian & Shaw (one could argue) to the mix and you have a team that relies on too many mediocre players.
He's been on the same level of the players I mentioned and this season I would include Rashford & Martial who've been underwhelming. Now add Rooney, Darmian & Shaw (one could argue) to the mix and you have a team that relies on too many mediocre players.
This is entirely true. It's unfortunate, and even a little unfair, but it is what it is. He's a totem for all the things we shouldn't be doing, and as such will always be the focal point for fan frustrations.
Interesting - good for you that you don't get frustrated. Would you get frustrated watching United playing badly, failing to score? Giving away soft goals? Making mistakes etc? Just wondering. I do. And the players I mentioned above are/were all guilty of that so often, that it makes me frustrated watching them.
It's interesting that you think it's mental that I get frustrated. I dare say I'm not the only person who does .. so maybe it's not that mental a point of view? Maybe just a pretty common one, but not the same one as you yourself feel.
I really don't think he's been consistent at all. He's been downright dismal from time to time, and at other times he raises his game slightly. Even then I don't think he's anything better then average. I have yet to see him dominate a game, I've yet to see him be man of the match in a game where others played well (it's all well and good being our best performer when everyone is terrible). Ultimately, for me, he's nowhere near a Manchester United level starting footballer. I don't even really think he's good enough as a squad member.
As for scapegoating - that phrase is bandied about constantly on this forum, particularly in this thread. I really don't think he's scapegoated. People just call a spade a spade, or in this instance, an average footballer an average footballer.
My main gripe is similar to when England play someone like Andy Carroll...Fellaini being in the team seems to encourage us to play shite tactics. He invariable ends up on the corner of the area trying to head balls back across goal to no one, or trying to knock the ball down to team mates and losing it. He isn't particularly good at what we seem to use him to do, and even if he was, it's a terrible way to try and play. It's not his fault really, but it's what happens.
It's not like our squad would suddenly become a bunch of world beaters if you took Fellaini out of it...but they would have to stop using him as an easy and ineffective out ball every time a game became difficult for them.
It's not like our squad would suddenly become a bunch of world beaters if you took Fellaini out of it...but they would have to stop using him as an easy and ineffective out ball every time a game became difficult for them.
He is a handy squad player to have I'd say but he is starting too many games to my liking this year. We need another central midfielder this summer, ideally with decent physical and ball winning qualities.
Don't know why but whenever we don't play well and if he is there in the team, it looks like it is all Fellaini's fault. Even if someone else played more poorly than him, the general feeling is that even this is some how Fellaini fault .
I feel that Mourinho must take some of the blame. Like, in the first 20 minutes of the Everton match, Fellaini was playing really well. He was making tackles and even driving ahead with the ball in a manner I have seldom seen him do. We were playing quite well even though they scored the goal first. Then we sort changed tactics and Fellaini got pushed ahead and we started lumping the ball to him and Zlatan.
Very rarely have I seen this hoofball tactic work. We did it time and again under Van Gaal too and I don't think it has ever helped us much. All the good work done by us (and Fellaini) prior to this change in tactic got undone and things became slow and ponderous once again.
We can play good football with him in the team. His ball control is not bad, but more often than not, we always seem to use him as a target man and quit trying to play normal football. This hoofball tactic is so obvious and predictable, I don't think there is any player in the world who can serve as a suitable target man and look good. We need to mix it up a bit. Use balls through the middle and aerial balls when necessary. Think once Mourinho gets his players in the summer, Fellaini performances will also improve.
Anyway, Pogba and Herrera are back, so mostly Fellaini will not be used in the next few matches and so our midfield can go back to the fast paced exciting and exemplary level it usually is in when Fellaini is not playing.
I feel that Mourinho must take some of the blame. Like, in the first 20 minutes of the Everton match, Fellaini was playing really well. He was making tackles and even driving ahead with the ball in a manner I have seldom seen him do. We were playing quite well even though they scored the goal first. Then we sort changed tactics and Fellaini got pushed ahead and we started lumping the ball to him and Zlatan.
Very rarely have I seen this hoofball tactic work. We did it time and again under Van Gaal too and I don't think it has ever helped us much. All the good work done by us (and Fellaini) prior to this change in tactic got undone and things became slow and ponderous once again.
We can play good football with him in the team. His ball control is not bad, but more often than not, we always seem to use him as a target man and quit trying to play normal football. This hoofball tactic is so obvious and predictable, I don't think there is any player in the world who can serve as a suitable target man and look good. We need to mix it up a bit. Use balls through the middle and aerial balls when necessary. Think once Mourinho gets his players in the summer, Fellaini performances will also improve.
Anyway, Pogba and Herrera are back, so mostly Fellaini will not be used in the next few matches and so our midfield can go back to the fast paced exciting and exemplary level it usually is in when Fellaini is not playing.
You don't agree mate, because you don't like him and want him to leave. It is as simple as that, like many other users on here. That is fine - I don't really have a problem with that, I think people can passionately display their emotion while supporting their club and that is the great thing about a football forum and sharing opinions. The bias ramps up in here and circulates until people are just hurling abuse relentlessly and not analyzing the performances anymore. Take Valencia for example, literally the same level of performances all year, dreadful in the final third but really good defensively and people go out of their way to pump him up as an amazing player all round because people like him. They overlook the negatives in order to be seen to be impartial. Rooney is an extreme example but somewhat similar. Essentially a similar level, though a much better contribution level last year but because everyone loves just hurling abuse and blaming him "shittest player ever and shittest season ever" starts to be posted non stop. That isn't a discussion, or analytics. It is just nonsense.
On Fellaini;
LVG's first season he came into his own at the back end of the season as an 8.
LVG's second season he was better than average for pretty much the entirety of the season and put it some pretty commendable performances as a 6 in the 3-5-2, an 8 and off the bench.
This season he's put in the same level of performances, better than average and steady.
I don't even love the guy, I don't even like the guy that much. But he's been an excellent professional and stepped in without a fuss and got on with the job despite relentless abuse from the fans. Any other soft-wad could have just packed up and left and I admire that he has kept going without any fuss at all, even making some good contributions.
The narrative will never differ, no matter what happens. I try to keep it analytical and not emotional.
I have to say, you're analysing completely different performances than I'm seeing if you think he's been above average.
No i don't agree with you because i have watched him be pretty inconsistent for 4 years mate. Nowhere have i said i don't like him to my knowledge, so thats an assumption on your part. Besides i like to think i can be pretty objective about a player even if i don't like them, my opinion is based on what i've seen.
Again mate it seems we're watching a different player, which is fine people can have different opinions. I can recognize and give Fellaini credit when i think he has played well. His two best periods for us in my opinion were towards the tail end of both of LVG's seasons. In that run in 2015 and the cup run last year. But i can also recognize the periods where he has been downright awful. This season after starting well his form dipped, between September and maybe December/Janurary i thought he was very poor.
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It seems Mourinho sees him as a good backup option on the bench . He definitely doesn't see him as a starter as when Herrera and Pogba are present he never enters the starting XI , but he's always used a sub and always used as a plan b or c when we get into problems , but that just adds another problem already . Jose also was the only one defending him after his mistake against Everton when he caused a penalty on us .
I don't see him leaving unless an irresistible offer comes , anything else he'll probably stay and will be in Mourinho's plans next season as backup plan again .
Look , I have no problem with him on the bench if the managers just don't lose their heads when seeing his hair and start thinking about playing long balls all the time . It prevent the managers from thinking about any clever ways to win and force them to take the easiest route and that's to hoof the ball to his head .
Just pray that an offer +30 millions comes to him in summer and I don't think even Jose will refuse such an offer . Chop him and bring 2 real midfielders instead of this extinct hoof ball we're trying to play using him .
Nobody is going to offer him the money he makes at United, nor is there going to be a huge transfer offer to force our hand. To his credit, he's always looked like he's tried his best when involved-- unfortunately it's simply not up to par for a top clubs' midfield. I understand his qualities (as in he scores one or two headed goals a season when we may be chasing a game...), but he should not be a starter for us in PL or European competition if we are to compete at the level most of us long to get back to.
I agree José likes him, and while he has his limitations, why wouldn't he? Quite a reliable player when playing the right role, who always gives 100%. From what I've heard he's popular in the dressing room, too. It's just that United decided to "only" trigger the 1yr option (perhaps José wanted to see more) and not actually give him a new contract (which of course would see a small raise). I'm actually basing my view that he's leaving in the summer solely on his contract ending in 2018 and no talks of a renewal.
I do admit it's not much.I agree José likes him, and while he has his limitations, why wouldn't he? Quite a reliable player when playing the right role, who always gives 100%. From what I've heard he's popular in the dressing room, too. It's just that United decided to "only" trigger the 1yr option (perhaps José wanted to see more) and not actually give him a new contract (which of course would see a small raise). I'm actually basing my view that he's leaving in the summer solely on his contract ending in 2018 and no talks of a renewal.
Sorry to keep you waiting
As a bench player I have no problem with him . The problem I have is the way all managers treat him , as if he's always plan b , it hurts the team . Whenever we're losing the managers forget any clever ways of returning to the game and decide th throw Fellaini upfront and take the easiest route possible . It seems all managers just lose their head once they saw Fellaini on the bench .
So him leaving is much better for us . At least it'll force managers we got to think of more clever ways to win the games instead of hoofing the ball to his hair . That's why I said I can't wait to watch us without him . He's just irresistible solutions for all managers to play extinct kind of football to grind results ( which we don't get anyway )
Captain today... thoughts?
Better than Keane.
Jose is paying tribute to Moyes.
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