[Mike09]

Booing him today was a disgrace I thought. We are better than that!!

 

[clarkydaz]

It's the manager's fault for constantly playing him. Who wouldn't want to play in front of the OT faithful and receive a fat pay check at the end of it. But surely as a professional, you have a responsibility to improve yourself given the circumstances and resources available to you. I have watched Fellaini since he has been in the PL for almost 10 years, what aspect has anyone noticed dramatically improve in the last 10 years? I would really like to know. All my life, it has been Fellaini can chest and head, for 10 years? Find me another player in the same circumstances that has not added another string to their bow, maybe not the perfect string but another recognizable string regardless. If the guy does not recognize that he needed to add to his repertoire in that, then I really question his mentality to be a better player than just being a battering ram or to know his most effective position. This is the main reason I can't stand the guy, not just that LvG picks him all the time.

what are you expecting him to be exactly? He was stitched up being brought here by the man who knew him best, who even then couldn't agree what his best position was. Blame the powers that put him on the pitch. He might be poor most of the time but he is doing whats asked and is being professional about it. then he gets booed because he looks quirky, by a spoilt mob

 

[clarkydaz]

Booing him today was a disgrace I thought. We are better than that!!

clearly not. Expect songs about dead people on Thursday aswell

 

[Asger]

Another good game??

When was the first one?!

Vs Liverpool of course.

 

[Silverman]

No player should be booed but he shouldn't be anywhere near the team (hence the reason for the boos) Frankly, it's Moyes' fault for signing him and LVG's fault for persisting with him.

 

[11101]

We shouldnt be booing anyone but we are so bad in midfield when he plays and it makes others look worse. Herrera gets isolated as he has noone to play off and Schneiderlin gets left covering two positions on his own. He's a player to bring on in a limited set of specific circumstances but at ~27m thats not enough.

 

[kouroux]

I'm preparing to celebrate for when he gets sold.

 

[Loublaze]

Boo the manager, not Fellaini. He is what he is. I didn't want him on the pitch either, but he's not selecting himself. It doesn't send a good message to the other players either.

He's the only player i've seen booed since Fergie left.

 

[kafta]

I hate what he offers, and how we play when he's in the side, but he wasn't close to the worst player on the pitch these last 2 games, and thats the bigger problem

 

[devilish]

I'm preparing to celebrate for when he gets sold.

it won't be that easy. His salary probably reflects the fee we paid. No one is going to pay the new Nolan like a 30m rated player

 

[iKeano]

Booing him today was a disgrace I thought. We are better than that!!

Selecting him in centre mid was a disgrace.... Booing him was reflex.

He's terrible, the manager is terrible. Does neither of them an harm hearing the masses opinion. The sooner Utd fans get of this morally redundant high horse and stop accepting mediocrity, the sooner things should hopefully change.

Trust me, there were worse things sang in the Stretford End yesterday than the booing of Fellaini.

Another disgrace is that he'll start again on Thursday as yet another firm two fingers to the fans from the senile Dutch one. When that happens, I truly hope they both get booed again.

 

[kouroux]

it won't be that easy. His salary probably reflects the fee we paid. No one is going to pay the new Nolan like a 30m rated player

Hopefully a chinese club will be clueless enough to buy him. I find watching Utd very difficult to watch with him lumbering pointlessly on the field.

 

[devilish]

Selecting him in centre mid was a disgrace.... Booing him was reflex.

He's terrible, the manager is terrible. Does neither of them an harm hearing the masses opinion. The sooner Utd fans get of this morally redundant high horse and stop accepting mediocrity, the sooner things should hopefully change.

Trust me, there were worse things sang in the Stretford End yesterday than the booing of Fellaini.

Another disgrace is that he'll start again on Thursday as yet another firm two fingers to the fans from the senile Dutch one. When that happens, I truly hope they both get booed again.

I agree. However that's not the point I am making. Fellaini was involved in a 30m panic buy deal. His salary will most probably reflect it. No one will be ready to give him that ridiculous salary so either we loan him up and pay half his salary or we're stuck with him until the end of his contract.

 

[devilish]

Hopefully a chinese club will be clueless enough to buy him. I find watching Utd very difficult to watch with him lumbering pointlessly on the field.

Correct me if I am wrong but they don't seem to be keen to give ridiculous salaries to someone whose technique is similar to their average players.

 

[Perrick Dubois]

Once again I read the mass hysterical abuse and then watch the replay and see just a normal run of the mill decent performance. Still not getting the whole "lets hurl abuse at him and boo him off the park because, funny" shtick. Speaking of the boo's, we have some utter troglodytes in the crowd embarrassing themselves with that shite.

Imagine getting jeered off the field for again, AFTER it's happened before and you've got on with your lot and turned in the odd decent performance as well. Receiving purely nothing but vitriol from the fans and still giving it a good crack.

I mean, for all the people saying "the most un-Manchester United player" he screams a hell of a lot of professionalism and giving a graft for the shirt which has been probably the most Manchester United thing in the last 20 years.. Still scratching my head over the whole situation it is utterly bizarre really.

 

[Samid]

Give me £100k a week, I would also 'scream a hell of a lot of professionalism and give a graft for the shirt'.

Means feck all when you're a useless donkey.

 

[Mike09]

Selecting him in centre mid was a disgrace.... Booing him was reflex.

He's terrible, the manager is terrible. Does neither of them an harm hearing the masses opinion. The sooner Utd fans get of this morally redundant high horse and stop accepting mediocrity, the sooner things should hopefully change.

Trust me, there were worse things sang in the Stretford End yesterday than the booing of Fellaini.

Another disgrace is that he'll start again on Thursday as yet another firm two fingers to the fans from the senile Dutch one. When that happens, I truly hope they both get booed again.

Are you kidding me? Reflex? Do you even know what reflex means? The one that worse than terrible is the fans who booing their own players and the ones who still agree with him deserved to be booed is also disgrace. Schneiderlin, Carrick, and Herrera haven't been good at all this season and Fellaini became the scapegoat. Fans think Fellaini isn't United quality yes he's not but so does Schneiderlin and Herrera hasn't show any sign to be United quality and to be fair just like Fellaini the three of them were overpaid as well. if you look at the likes of Carrick, Scholes, Robson, Ince, Keane. Even Hargreaves, Butt and Fletcher. And now we have Schneiderlin, Herrera and Fellaini but Fellaini is the only scapegoat? With Fellaini and without Fellaini we are still playing bad, with Fellaini last season we played much better than this season.

 

[NK86]

I don't think any player who dons the shirt should be booed off or abused by the fans during a game. I held the same view when Nani (a favorite of mine) was booed hen he was subbed and I still hold the same opinion when Fellaini (someone I want to see the club get rid of) was subbed. Think the players are under immense pressure as it is for the fans to add to it during a crunch match at a critical time.

 

[NK86]

it won't be that easy. His salary probably reflects the fee we paid. No one is going to pay the new Nolan like a 30m rated player

Didn't he take a pay cut to join us? I remember rumors floating around that he gave up part of his agreed salary to get the move through.

 

[Perrick Dubois]

Didn't he take a pay cut to join us? I remember rumors floating around that he gave up part of his agreed salary to get the move through.

I don't think he cut his salary, just the sign on payment. But I can't confirm that as truth.

 

[Woodzy]

He's a plan B or C that always seems to wrongly make its way into plan A.

 

[devilish]

Didn't he take a pay cut to join us? I remember rumors floating around that he gave up part of his agreed salary to get the move through.

Really? I don't remember that.

 

[devilish]

Are you kidding me? Reflex? Do you even know what reflex means? The one that worse than terrible is the fans who booing their own players and the ones who still agree with him deserved to be booed is also disgrace. Schneiderlin, Carrick, and Herrera haven't been good at all this season and Fellaini became the scapegoat. Fans think Fellaini isn't United quality yes he's not but so does Schneiderlin and Herrera hasn't show any sign to be United quality and to be fair just like Fellaini the three of them were overpaid as well. if you look at the likes of Carrick, Scholes, Robson, Ince, Keane. Even Hargreaves, Butt and Fletcher. And now we have Schneiderlin, Herrera and Fellaini but Fellaini is the only scapegoat? With Fellaini and without Fellaini we are still playing bad, with Fellaini last season we played much better than this season.

There's no denying that philosophy isn't working. These days even the yes men at MUTV says that. However its pretty maddening that Fellaini wasn't able to make any clearances, tackles or blocks for the simple reason that these are the only things he can produce for us. He's not a play maker and we're definitely not going to use him as no 10. FFS we're not Wimbledon

 

[devilish]

Give me £100k a week, I would also 'scream a hell of a lot of professionalism and give a graft for the shirt'.

Means feck all when you're a useless donkey.

There's nothing wrong in paying decent money for a 'grafter'. Gattuso for example was frighteningly effective in his day. The problem with Fellaini is that he's not very good in that role either. He simply lack the pace, the defensive discipline and the stamina to play that role

 

[devilish]

Booing him today was a disgrace I thought. We are better than that!!

Jeez they booed him and not killed his dog. Fans have every right to vent their frustrations. We're a football club and not the Soviet union.

 

[Parma Dewol]

I kinda felt sorry for him yesterday when everyone cheered his substitution.

The guy's trying, but for some reason whenever he plays we insist on using him as a target man for high balls. He was worth much more than just that at Everton.

It's quite surreal at times. When he's not in the team, De Gea tends to kick it short to a defender near the edge of the box, and we build from there. As soon as Fellaini's in the team, almost every De Gea goal kick is long in Fellaini's general direction. I don't think he's a great player, but the fact that we seem to build our game plan around him makes it even worse.

 

[2 man midfield]

Hopefully Mourinho comes in and does the decent thing. Just put us both out of our misery.

 

[devilish]

I kinda felt sorry for him yesterday when everyone cheered his substitution.

The guy's trying, but for some reason whenever he plays we insist on using him as a target man for high balls. He was worth much more than just that at Everton.

It's quite surreal at times. When he's not in the team, De Gea tends to kick it short to a defender near the edge of the box, and we build from there. As soon as Fellaini's in the team, almost every De Gea goal kick is long in Fellaini's general direction. I don't think he's a great player, but the fact that we seem to build our game plan around him makes it even worse.

Unfortunately he's a very one dimensional type of player.

 

[Dobbs]

Jeez they booed him and not killed his dog. Fans have every right to vent their frustrations. We're a football club and not the Soviet union.

The "have every right to boo" stuff is a red herring. Nobody argues they don't have the right but equally that doesn't mean it is right.

He tried his best and got booed by a few thousand people. It's crappy behaviour.

 

[devilish]

The "have every right to boo" stuff is a red herring. Nobody argues they don't have the right but equally that doesn't mean it is right.

He tried his best and got booed by a few thousand people. It's crappy behaviour.

Its highly ironic considering that the most successful countries in football has a long history of keeping players and managers on their toes. The last three times Italy won the WC it came just after a big scandal and the media and fans wanted to rip players into pieces. That pressure didn't hindered the players one bit.


What had England achieved at national level by going easy towards their constantly underachieving players?

 

[SSSSnake]

He's just not what we need. United deserve better and I'm sure we can find another 6 foot plus giant that can move around the pitch quicker and smarter.

 

[Mike09]

Jeez they booed him and not killed his dog. Fans have every right to vent their frustrations. We're a football club and not the Soviet union.

So you shouldn't complain then because I also have the right thing to called people like you and the others as a disgraceful fans because I am frustrated to see fans are booing their own player.
Being frustrated just because the system isn't right and the result is poor doesn't mean the fans is right to scapegoat a single player by booing him. It's not his fault that the club bought and played him anyway. Didn't we play good when Fellaini played last season? Didn't we still get a poor results and play poor when Fellaini both playing and not playing this season? So why scapegoating a single player when most of our players played as bad as him this season?

 

[devilish]

I believe that one of our biggest problems is the fact that we simply refuse to let players go. Take Valencia. He's been shit on the flanks for years and what do we do? Sell him? No we play him as RB hoping he does well there. Same as Young and Jones/the crock twins (he's injury prone but we insist on him because who knows maybe he will one day get fit again). Its one thing trying to get the last ounce of juice from exceptional players by moving them into a less demanding role (Scholes/Giggs/Rijkaard etc) and its another doing it for any player.

Fellaini was a costly mistake. He was a player who was brought in a team which cant play to his strengths. Just sell him and get over it.

 

[devilish]

So you shouldn't complain then because I also have the right thing to called people like you and the others as a disgraceful fans because I am frustrated to see fans are booing their own player.
Being frustrated just because the system isn't right and the result is poor doesn't mean the fans is right to scapegoat a single player by booing him. It's not his fault that the club bought and played him anyway. Didn't we play good when Fellaini played last season? Didn't we still get a poor results and play poor when Fellaini both playing and not playing this season? So why scapegoating a single player when most of our players played as bad as him this season?

First of all I don't boo players. I sit on my comfortable coach, drinking wine while watching the game. Considering how shit we are, I confess that sometimes I just dooze off or else spent a minute or two posting on redcafe. You can't blame me since there's nothing really exciting to see anymore. Therefore I feel highly uncomfortable criticizing the fans since they bothered going to OT and spend their cash to watch this crap and while I do find some of their actions controversial (the standing ovation given to Moyes for example), I would never call them disgraceful.

What I do find disgraceful is this 'taking the moral high ground' thing especially since you have no right to judge other fans. Considering that most successful nations in football find booing acceptable then maybe its about time for the English fans to get off their high horse and start demanding a bit more from their underachieving and highly paid players. Who knows maybe by keeping their players on their toes they might as well see England lift the world cup again in their lifetime

 

[acnumber9]

Once again I read the mass hysterical abuse and then watch the replay and see just a normal run of the mill decent performance. Still not getting the whole "lets hurl abuse at him and boo him off the park because, funny" shtick. Speaking of the boo's, we have some utter troglodytes in the crowd embarrassing themselves with that shite.

Imagine getting jeered off the field for again, AFTER it's happened before and you've got on with your lot and turned in the odd decent performance as well. Receiving purely nothing but vitriol from the fans and still giving it a good crack.

I mean, for all the people saying "the most un-Manchester United player" he screams a hell of a lot of professionalism and giving a graft for the shirt which has been probably the most Manchester United thing in the last 20 years.. Still scratching my head over the whole situation it is utterly bizarre really.

What does that mean? I don't think elbowing people screams professionalism at me.

 

[Mike09]

First of all I don't boo players. I sit on my comfortable coach, drinking wine while watching the game. Considering how shit we are, I confess that sometimes I just dooze off or else spent a minute or two posting on redcafe. You can't blame me since there's nothing really exciting to see anymore. Therefore I feel highly uncomfortable criticizing the fans since they bothered going to OT and spend their cash to watch this crap and while I do find some of their actions controversial (the standing ovation given to Moyes for example), I would never call them disgraceful.

What I do find disgraceful is this 'taking the moral high ground' thing especially since you have no right to judge other fans. Considering that most successful nations in football find booing acceptable then maybe its about time for the English fans to catch up. Who knows maybe by keeping their players on their toes they might as well see England lift the world cup again one day

The point is you agree with fans scapegoating and booing players. What? you think it can make everything back to what it used to be again by booing their own player? Booing players isn't the right thing and what make it worse is it's not just Fellaini is the one who played poor this season. And clearly it's a disgrace to act in such a behavior like that to a single player who tried his best. It's not his fault that we bought and playing him.

 

[Dobbs]

Its highly ironic considering that the most successful countries in football has a long history of keeping players and managers on their toes. The last three times Italy won the WC it came just after a big scandal and the media and fans wanted to rip players into pieces. That pressure didn't hindered the players one bit.


What had England achieved at national level by going easy towards their constantly underachieving players?

Is any of that true? I'm pretty sure the England team gets plenty of stick but their failings are down to ability not crowd reaction. Equally I don't think there's any correlation between success and fans having a go at the players. The only time it might work is if there's a lack of effort but that's not the case with Fellaini.

Having a go at Fellaini isn't going to increase his speed or make him pass better. As I said before nobody argues the fans haven't got the right. Having the right though doesn't mean it's ok to do it.

 

[kouroux]

Correct me if I am wrong but they don't seem to be keen to give ridiculous salaries to someone whose technique is similar to their average players.

He definitely won't be seen like that. Playing and starting for Man Utd will guarantee him a decent/good salary.

 

[devilish]

The point is you agree with fans scapegoating and booing players. What? you think it can make everything back to what it used to be again by booing their own player? Booing players isn't the right thing and what make it worse is it's not just Fellaini is the one who played poor this season. And clearly it's a disgrace to act in such a behavior like that to a single player who tried his best. It's not his fault that we bought and playing him.

I believe that fans have a right to express their feelings and if they feel that a player has been underachieving then they have every right to express themselves. After all they are the ones who are paying their salaries. I also believe that keeping players on their toes is beneficial. If Manchester United find that disgraceful then they should consider play their games in close doors. However I doubt they will ever do that.

 

[devilish]

Is any of that true? I'm pretty sure the England team gets plenty of stick but their failings are down to ability not crowd reaction. Equally I don't think there's any correlation between success and fans having a go at the players. The only time it might work is if there's a lack of effort but that's not the case with Fellaini.

Having a go at Fellaini isn't going to increase his speed or make him pass better. As I said before nobody argues the fans haven't got the right. Having the right though doesn't mean it's ok to do it.

England may not have produced a lot of great players but they had been constantly underachieving for decades now. Take last WC as an example. They had enough talent to be able to qualify from the WC groups. I wonder how players would react knowing that a spineless world cup performance would means spending months being booed at home. That does act as an incentive for the Italian players who literally dread returning home after doing badly in an international tournament

Also just because a player is a thug that doesn't mean he is hardworking. Rino Gattuso would have never played a half without making 1 single tackle or clearance