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Dante said:
Yeah, but if you ignore what Fellaini said and what Moyes said and where Moyes played him and where LvG plays him and where the Belgium manager plays him... he's a forward.
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Very funny. You're actually ignoring what he's said, what his fellow professional has said and where LVG has played him and where he ends up in many matches he plays for both teams. I can understand your other claims about where Moyes officially played him at Everton in some seasons, not LVG.

Truth is Fellaini claimed to be both things, there was a huge question about what his position was after his first year here, nobody starts wondering if Keane is some type of forward, Keane is not played a whole season as a forward or claims to his teammates he a forward and wants a more forward position to the manager. I wouldn't really be that particular and call him a true defensive midfielder but we could've done with that in the last two games though. Shame his much vaunted natural defensive midfield Everton defined qualities couldn't be used to help poor Carrick or even come to the fore under Moyes.

For me he's mixed bag but lacks a lot to be called proper position.
 
redshaw said:
Yes I remember it well. That's what Moyes brought him here to be and it's a pretty obvious statement to make as a new signing. He's also said his position is not a midfielder or defensive midfielder and he doesn't like defensive midfield.
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No. That wasn't just a new signing statement. He has said he prefers to play in midfield before he signed for United, more than once. Such as this from 2012:
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...ould-prefer-to-play-as-a-defensive-midfielder

Also, when he's been used as a forward by LvG, he says he plays there to help the team, but he wants to play in midfield, so he's clearly not just pandering to the manager.
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/fellaini-im-midfielder-not-striker

When he signed:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-on-Sunday-but-what-sort-of-player-is-he.html
But for me, my best position is defensive midfield – stopping the opposition and then looking to impose myself on a game. When I play up front, it’s hard. It’s not my position and I find it difficult.”
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Care to post these quotes where he says he doesn't like to play defensive midfield? Because there are at least 3 counts of him saying it is his best position, and I can't find any of him saying otherwise.

redshaw said:
Have you ever considered that Fellaini himself has said he's a forward player. Have you heard of Phil Neville? Are you aware he played for Everton and said Fellaini is forward player.
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I'm also not aware of PNev saying that. Can you post the quotes? Here are the ones I can find:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31901145
He is at his best in a midfield three with a licence to get from box to box, like he does when he plays for Belgium.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...d-coach-Phil-Neville-ahead-Everton-clash.html
‘When he came at United he wasn’t fully match fit but we are getting him fitter, fitter to play for Man United and fitter to be that box-to-box player to be able to get in on the end of crosses and then get back to defend crosses. That is what we want him to do.
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redshaw said:
Moyes allegedly brought him here as a midfielder but all he ever was for Everton was a nuisance forward player who got away with a lot. He should not be a even squad player for United.
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No. He's played predominantly as a CM or a DM every year bar 12/13 when Cahill left.

15/16: CM/DM 14 apps, AM 4 apps, CF 1 app
14/15: CM/DM 22 apps, AM 6 apps
13/14: CM/DM 23 apps, AM 3 apps
12/13: CM/DM 7 apps, AM 29 apps
11/12: CM/DM 38 apps, AM 3 apps
10/11: CM/DM 15 apps, AM 5 apps
09/10: CM/DM 20 apps, AM 16 apps

Infact, it was the brutish defensive job he did on Liverpool at Anfield for Standard Liege in the Champions League that brought him to the attention of English clubs. The only coach who I have heard say Fellaini is best as an advanced player is Steve Round. It's up for debate as to how valuable Round's opinion is.
 
redshaw said:
Also when I say Forward player I drop the word striker, I don't say he's a striker. his game his effecting the forward play and also LVG who is not some muppet MOTD watcher also says he's a forward player.
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You're backtracking now. You said he's a forward player and not a midfielder (and that's all he EVER was). He's had excellent games at Everton in the midfield (and before someone bites on this, this is in response to the above poster and not a reasoning as to why he can be a successful midfielder for us).
 
izzydiggler said:
He's a dreadful footballer - his only 'skill' is being a nuisance.
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I guess his first touch on the chest and heading wont count.

On a side note, why do fans have to discredit EVERYTHING about a player just because they're playing bad? I guess it's the way we fans are. We exaggerate the highs and the lows.
 
We played our best football under LVG when Fellani was starting in that inside left position and we were actually really good for a while.
 
Jagga7 said:
We played our best football under LVG when Fellani was starting in that inside left position and we were actually really good for a while.
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One can also say that those same matches were it seemed clear that Herrera and Mata played with so much freedom ahead of Carrick. The tandem between those was the real key in those games. They were the unsung heroes in those "games"
 
dichinero said:
One can also say that those same matches were it seemed clear that Herrera and Mata played with so much freedom ahead of Carrick. The tandem between those was the real key in those games. They were the unsung heroes in those "games"
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Absolutely and it also was the only time I thought that Mata was finally getting to his best playing for us.
 
shamans said:
I guess his first touch on the chest and heading wont count.

On a side note, why do fans have to discredit EVERYTHING about a player just because they're playing bad? I guess it's the way we fans are. We exaggerate the highs and the lows.
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Heading definitely won't count, he's really strangely average at them whereas he has such a big advantage on his opponents.
 
dichinero said:
One can also say that those same matches were it seemed clear that Herrera and Mata played with so much freedom ahead of Carrick. The tandem between those was the real key in those games. They were the unsung heroes in those "games"
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A complete myth myth that's primarily born out of refusal to credit either of Fellaini or Young, without whom we wouldn't have finished top 4. In those games, It was the triumvirate of Blind, Young and Fellaini down the left side that was the biggest cause of worry for the opposition and something they couldn't deal with. One would think Herrera and Mata were running exchanging 1-2's left, right and centre before scoring past the keeper. It was only the Liverpool game where they combined in that run and even then it was more down to one pass than anything else.
 
I just don't get the freedom he is allowed. He is simply not good enough nor effective enough to warrant it. Last season during our good spell he did play an important role in it, it was a tactic that caught teams out until they knew it was coming but a key part of it was giving Fellaini a specific role and instructions, well that's what it looked like. This season, particularly in recent games it's like he's just been let lose on the pitch which might be ok if he was playing as a 10 but often he's been one of the cm's and it's just baffling as it leaves us so exposed and not to mention that whilst Fellaini might be able to get in to some decent positions from higher up the pitch he doesn't help any of the other attackers really.

Fellaini can do a job as part of the squad, I have no doubts about that. How we've used him, particularly this season is very questionable imo. As I said he might get the odd opening as a result of it but the impact on the team be it stupid fouls, leaving his cm partner isolated and outnumbered, slowing the attack etc means that for me his current use is at spite of the overall team performance. Tbf to him though that's not his fault as presumably he's just doing what he's been asked to do.
 
Akash said:
A complete myth myth that's primarily born out of refusal to credit either of Fellaini or Young, without whom we wouldn't have finished top 4. In those games, It was the triumvirate of Blind, Young and Fellaini down the left side that was the biggest cause of worry for the opposition and something they couldn't deal with. One would think Herrera and Mata were running exchanging 1-2's left, right and centre before scoring past the keeper. It was only the Liverpool game where they combined in that run and even then it was more down to one pass than anything else.
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Oh, I'm not depriving him of any credit but I'm equally tired of fans attributing the success of that run to Fellaini. It's the run that has been used as an excuse for him for almost 12 months. Mata and Herrera and Carrick were as crucial in that set up but no one bangs on about it for an excuse.
 
Fellaini plays we don't score. Simple

Just like when Jones plays we concede.

LVG will play both today in yet another stubborn, defiant, arrogant two fingers up to each and every one of us.
I'd love Fellaini to get run out of OT on LVGs coat tails when he gets screamed off the pitch today.
You can throw Mr Commercial Woodward in the mix too, they can all share a taxi.
 
dichinero said:
Oh, I'm not depriving him of any credit but I'm equally tired of fans attributing the success of that run to Fellaini. It's the run that has been used as an excuse for him for almost 12 months. Mata and Herrera and Carrick were as crucial in that set up but no one bangs on about it for an excuse.
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Fellaini was arguable more crucial than anyone except Carrick and maybe Young. None of Liverpool, City or Spurs could deal with him. And that wasn't the only time either. He was one of our best players against City away and Chelsea at home as well.
 
.Rossi said:
He makes me feel how I imagine a woman, with an up coming period, feels
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Like you haven't conceived a child again this month?
He must be doing major damage in training to get this many repeat chances.
 
When I say he's a (nuisance forward) I don't even mean a forward I would never simply label him as a forward or striker. I wasn't expecting some to pick up on that and was going to put nuisance midfield/forward but with people saying def mid I guess it wouldn't have mattered.

I decided to use the term nuisance forward. While he's a midfielder on the team sheet he ends up being some kind of forward that lacks a classic description, he's like a disrupter and likes to get and stay forward doing work in his unique way. We tried him as a proper midfielder and he looked like a fish out of water. This is not about him playing badly there, he couldn't fulfill the other jobs other than tackling and was completely lost how to carry it out, like sticking Michael Owen in as centre back, hence all the questions in the game on what his position is as clearly being in midfield was a problem for him. Phil comes out as says he's not really a midfielder. I already knew it wouldn't work before he signed.

When I see him elbowing central defenders, watching wingers and midfielders launching it up to Fellaini for the trillionth time I will remember that he's actually playing defensive mid.
 
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I think it's no coincidence that the pace of our attacking play is much quicker without him bumbling around.
 
His best game for Utd yet yesterday. I hope to see him deployed more in this role until he eventually graduates to the reserves and then becomes a full time ex-Utd player.
 
Think before this fella gets slaughtered there are many before him that deserve it first. He gives his all yes he's limited but is that his fault? We have had quite a few cowardly players and performances this season none from Fellaini. Easy target for a few on here.
 
Woodzy said:
I think it's no coincidence that the pace of our attacking play is much quicker without him bumbling around.
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Yet arguably we have had our best football for a while with him in the team.

He worked very well with Blind and Young on the left as well as Carrick and Herrera in midfield.
 
Cooksen said:
Yet arguably we have had our best football for a while with him in the team.

He worked very well with Blind and Young on the left as well as Carrick and Herrera in midfield.
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Are you referring to the football we played the second half of last season? It worked, and we looked great at that point, but we got found out pretty quickly and have been unable to replicate it since. The problem is, when we try and play to accommodate Fellaini, it limits us in so many other ways.

I always backed Fellaini when we signed him, and the fact that recently he is always the one that seems to be getting the chances (despite missing sitters) shows that he has his uses. It's also glaringly obvious that we cannot play the style of football we (well, the fans at least) wish to with him starting games. Keep him on the bench, bring him on a as plan B (or even plan C) if we have to, but he should not be finding a place in our first team. If all else fails, ship him out.
 
Lawman said:
Think before this fella gets slaughtered there are many before him that deserve it first. He gives his all yes he's limited but is that his fault? We have had quite a few cowardly players and performances this season none from Fellaini. Easy target for a few on here.
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The problem isn't his application of effort, the problem with Fellaini is the fact he's a symbol of how bad we've become. There is no way on this earth Fellaini should ever be wearing at United shirt, having said that there is a whole list of players in the last 6 years who shouldn't be wearing the red of United.
 
Delighted he didn't play, the tactics in recent weeks have been awful and Fellaini's complete lack of football intelligence have been a massive hindrance.
 
He might give it his all, but he should not be starting for us imo. I struggle to see which other teams he would be starting for in the league (especially in the top half).

He should only be used as a Plan B (for the final 10 minutes at most, and if we have people who can cross, and hes used as somebody behind the striker when were desperate).
 
Fellaini was the marquee Moyes buy in the summer of 2013. When you think about the Moyes buys, how many of them have made a massive impact this season?

Fellaini. Virtually zero impact.
Mata. Very little impact.
Varela. Actually a Moyes buy, promising in his two appearances this season, but very little impact.

I consider Rooney a "Moyes buy", since we had the opportunity to sell him to Chelsea but instead extended and enriched his contract. Virtually zero impact.
 
Spock said:
Fellaini was the marquee Moyes buy in the summer of 2013. When you think about the Moyes buys, how many of them have made a massive impact this season?

Fellaini. Virtually zero impact.
Mata. Very little impact.
Varela. Actually a Moyes buy, promising in his two appearances this season, but very little impact.

I consider Rooney a "Moyes buy", since we had the opportunity to sell him to Chelsea but instead extended and enriched his contract. Virtually zero impact.
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Since signing, Mata has contributed more goals + assists than any other United player. Not sure what you define as 'very little impact' though.
 
He isn't good enough to play as a midfield partner with Carrick at all.

LvG got his selection wrong last time he played Fellaini. Fellaini at #10 or not at all (id rather not at all).
 
Spock said:
Fellaini was the marquee Moyes buy in the summer of 2013. When you think about the Moyes buys, how many of them have made a massive impact this season?

Fellaini. Virtually zero impact.
Mata. Very little impact.
Varela. Actually a Moyes buy, promising in his two appearances this season, but very little impact.

I consider Rooney a "Moyes buy", since we had the opportunity to sell him to Chelsea but instead extended and enriched his contract. Virtually zero impact.
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The fact that Mata and Fellaini are in the same bracket is a fail. Mata has been involved with most of our goals.
 
Beachryan said:
Since signing, Mata has contributed more goals + assists than any other United player. Not sure what you define as 'very little impact' though.
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I guess it's all relative. We've scored very few goals, right? Right.

If we, for example, scored two goals all season but it was Mata who scored would you say that since Mata has scored all our goals this season that he's been brilliant for us? I hope not.

Mata has, in fact, had very little impact. He hasn't been a horror show like Rooney or Fellaini, but I don't think anyone here would argue that we're perfectly set at right attacking mid and there's no need whatsoever for an upgrade at that position.

Mata has obvious class, but he offers too little physically and drift out of game for long stretches. Apart from hitting the bar early on, he disappeared against Chelsea.
 
Replacing Fellani's role with Pereira is a natural progression for me (not that I'm asking for Pereira to be ahead of Fellani in the pecking order right now).Of course Pereira can't play as a backup striker but we need one more striking option regardless anyway.
 
Red Dreams said:
http://metro.co.uk/2016/01/06/manch...e-fellaini-agrees-ac-milan-transfer-5603545/?

Fellani to Milan eh?
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*Sees £15 million for Fellaini... then sees 'according to The Daily Express*

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Let's get rid of our only forward option off the bench...

Wait until the summer. The squad depth mess LVG has made can be sorted properly then.
 
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