It's weird, but today was the first game where I felt myself really turning against Fellaini. Of course, I've always felt he was slightly out of his depth at United, but I always felt he did his best, and would usually offer something to the team, even if it wasn't particularly glamorous. But today, I saw a guy making half-hearted attempts to win headers, giving away stupid fouls and missing yet another sitter. Perhaps I should have noticed this earlier, but today was the first time where I felt truly exasperated with him. It truly is incredible that we spend 27 million on this guy.
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Why do so many of our chances fall to him FFS.
Why do so many of our chances fall to him FFS.
I don't think I could agree anymore to a post. I felt the same last season even.
Surely shifting him to the left, dropping Rooney in the hole, Martial as a number 9 and bringing Fellaini back to CM (heck even bringing him off) would have been a better way to go about it.
Regardless, I still think he needs to bulk up a bit more.
Mid table battering ram support striker, that's the peak of his career. Moyes however brought him in expecting him to be what Schneiderlin is for us now as a CM.
And he keeps MS out of our lineup. LVG has really lost the plot.
But it is hardly ever Carrick-Fellaini in CM. It is usually Carrick alone in CM while Fellaini up top.
Fellaini is definitely not a very good player, especially when you consider the kind of players United should target, but LVG's use of him has been as bad as Moyes'. He can do a decent job in midfield next to a Carrick but he is played as a second striker. Even yesterday it was Herrera in midfield partnering Carrick with Fellaini roaming around without a care in the world as if he was Ronaldo.
Proved it last season and at Everton. People calling him a clown and a disaster of a player just don't understand his quality. Starting midfielder for Man United quality? Nah. Squad player? Yes.
The amount of headers he DIDNT win is baffling. He barely needs to jump Vs most players so I dont get how he cant win headers consistently.
Other than a handful of games he has been useless for us and he has been a terrible signing, he hasn't even proven himself as a squad player unless we are ignoring the majority of the last two and a half seasons and basing that on his best moments. What he did at Everton is irrelevant because that has been and gone and doesn't help us, it's not about understanding his quality it's about admitting we never should have signed him, massively overpaid and he hasn't been good enough.
He's crap in the air, it's why he resorts to so many fouls.
Probably has the best chest control in the world though when taking a ball out of the air.
He's not a terrible footballer, as such, and did do well at Everton when they played to his strengths, but he's mostly been a bit crap for us here. Did well last season, but that's not enough to compensate for the fact that his spell here has been very poor overall.
He was bought to be a first team player, but has mostly failed to excel when placed into such a role. "He's a squad player", is an argument that's popped up to defend him because he's generally proven himself not to be good enough for our first team. It's only used because he's mostly played poorly for us, like others such as Young, and Valencia in recent years. I mean, yeah, if we desperately need numbers then I'm fine to hang onto players like Fellaini, but if we were to get a decent offer to get rid then it'd make sense to do so, for example, and he's not the type of player whose contract I'd extend either. Essentially, the main reason he's seen as a 'squad player' by some is because he's just not good enough to be in our starting side most of the time.
this is what I don't understand, he's crap at the plan B he is supposed to be useful for. Cant jump, or gives a foul rightly or wrongly
I think he could take the brunt of the fans abuse if it turns against us tomorrow and he's on the pitch, he's pretty much universally disliked by the fans who see him as a symbol of the clubs decline.
He's also a fvcking awful footballer.
He's also a fvcking awful footballer.
It's about effort and positioning and he lacks in both when it comes to winning headers. It's ridiculous because he has such an advantage, compare him to Andy Carroll who uses efficiently his body to win headers.
He shouldn't be a squad player either. We played 5 games in a row in a set up that suits his strengths and he showed absolutely nothing. Played almost like a striker, had no defensive tasks whatsoever, and he scored one goal and missed couple of sitters. He doesn't even win headers ffs.
He is a player for midtable club who shouldn't be nowhere near United. If Moyes didn't buy him there is no decent manager that would want him here. We talk all the time about aspiring to be like Barcelona, Bayern but we are happy with Fellaini in our squad. People want us to go forward, and want players like Mata out of the club but at the same time they don't mind Fellaini playing for us, incredible.
We never had this type of player in a team, and we did fine, I am sure we could do well without him in the future too.
We would be much better if we had someone like Hernandez as our plan B if we are all insisting on having that plan B.
No doubt someone will quote me and say I have an agenda against him and can't see that he is actually good player.
I seriously cannot understand how can someone like a player who is lazy - strolling on the pitch 90% of the time, kicks people intentionally in every game, hardly does any defensive work, and is shite footballer all around.
He is a player for midtable club who shouldn't be nowhere near United. If Moyes didn't buy him there is no decent manager that would want him here. We talk all the time about aspiring to be like Barcelona, Bayern but we are happy with Fellaini in our squad. People want us to go forward, and want players like Mata out of the club but at the same time they don't mind Fellaini playing for us, incredible.
We never had this type of player in a team, and we did fine, I am sure we could do well without him in the future too.
We would be much better if we had someone like Hernandez as our plan B if we are all insisting on having that plan B.
No doubt someone will quote me and say I have an agenda against him and can't see that he is actually good player.
I seriously cannot understand how can someone like a player who is lazy - strolling on the pitch 90% of the time, kicks people intentionally in every game, hardly does any defensive work, and is shite footballer all around.
I remember creating a thread about selling Fellaini and Young when their stocks were high during the end of LvG's first season. I knew this was gonna happen. It was blatantly obvious he's nowhere near the quality we require from our players. He's a midfielder who is not expected to pass. Show me one pass he's made since he wore the red shirt that is more than 7 yards. How can he call himself a midfielder when he just stands there to win headers which he couldn't even do against the likes of Stoke. And how many number of clear cut chances has he missed in the past few weeks? Yes he has his strengths but it just doesn't suit us. We struggle to cross the ball even if we manage to get into dangerous areas. He's gonna end up as that player who never performed for us but always puts in his best when he plays against us. We'll sell him for peanuts. Waste of money really.
He must have fouled a million times and every time the referee blows his whistle, he acts as if he has no clue what happened and acts all surprised. A slow mo replay would show him eye gouging another player and fellaini would be standing there bewildered what the hell just happened with a sarcastic grin on his face. At least man up and take responsibility for your fouls. Am actually surprised he hasn't been sent off as many times I expected him to when we brought him. Didn't even concede that many penalties.
We built a team to accommodate players like Fellaini instead of building it around good players. LvGs biggest mistake is building teams to minimize the limitations of lesser players. We can never progress if we have players like him around. Expect us to haggle around for some years in the transfer market losing money in wages waiting for the 'right' offer only to sell him for 2.5M or so.
He must have fouled a million times and every time the referee blows his whistle, he acts as if he has no clue what happened and acts all surprised. A slow mo replay would show him eye gouging another player and fellaini would be standing there bewildered what the hell just happened with a sarcastic grin on his face. At least man up and take responsibility for your fouls. Am actually surprised he hasn't been sent off as many times I expected him to when we brought him. Didn't even concede that many penalties.
We built a team to accommodate players like Fellaini instead of building it around good players. LvGs biggest mistake is building teams to minimize the limitations of lesser players. We can never progress if we have players like him around. Expect us to haggle around for some years in the transfer market losing money in wages waiting for the 'right' offer only to sell him for 2.5M or so.
Have said for a while we're trying to accommodate Fellaini and Mata as they were big buys. We'd only get 5-7 million for Fellaini and that's about all he is worth before. We should've cut our loses at the start of this season.
He profited from Ashley Young playing on the left and helped us get fourth. He got us out of some tricky situations granted but he's not consistent and not good enough in the United attack or midfield and done nothing this season.
How we've ended up with Carrick alone and Fellaini running around bundling opposing players over after the summer transfer period is really upsetting.
Moyes allegedly brought him here as a midfielder but all he ever was for Everton was a nuisance forward player who got away with a lot. He should not be a even squad player for United.
We've had our players like Roy Keane who play dirty sometimes and get involved but Fellaini seems to get involved far too many times over anything the opposing players does and wants revenge. He leaves his foot or arm in almost every game. You can even see him looking up and down at the player to put the elbow in just before the ball comes. He's daft and clumsy and should not be considered a striker for us either. I don't care if he scores against Chelsea or has a few good months.
He profited from Ashley Young playing on the left and helped us get fourth. He got us out of some tricky situations granted but he's not consistent and not good enough in the United attack or midfield and done nothing this season.
How we've ended up with Carrick alone and Fellaini running around bundling opposing players over after the summer transfer period is really upsetting.
Moyes allegedly brought him here as a midfielder but all he ever was for Everton was a nuisance forward player who got away with a lot. He should not be a even squad player for United.
We've had our players like Roy Keane who play dirty sometimes and get involved but Fellaini seems to get involved far too many times over anything the opposing players does and wants revenge. He leaves his foot or arm in almost every game. You can even see him looking up and down at the player to put the elbow in just before the ball comes. He's daft and clumsy and should not be considered a striker for us either. I don't care if he scores against Chelsea or has a few good months.
Not sure why people hate him so much. It's not his fault his doofus manager has an entire game plan revolving around the height of one player (LOL). So much for philosophy. Besides, his best performances came in a midfield three where he was able to mix his strengths with Blind and Young to create a very effective triumvirate of players on the left side of the pitch, which the likes of Spurs, City and Liverpool had no reply to. Such was his form, the Champions were forced to compile a game plan where the key was to stop the mop. It's a shame our clueless manager doesn't remember the set of games that kept him at the helm of the club, till now.
As for Fellaini himself, it's a testament to how crap we've been recently, that he's actually been our most effective player is recent games. Unlike the rest of the of the team, he's got himself into actual positions where he can take advantage of the one cross we deliver per game, however, his ineffective finishing and some good saves from opposition keepers have prevented him from scoring a few times. People easily forget that he gave us a sniff against Wolfsburg and Bournemouth. It's a shame his first name isn't Ander.
As for Fellaini himself, it's a testament to how crap we've been recently, that he's actually been our most effective player is recent games. Unlike the rest of the of the team, he's got himself into actual positions where he can take advantage of the one cross we deliver per game, however, his ineffective finishing and some good saves from opposition keepers have prevented him from scoring a few times. People easily forget that he gave us a sniff against Wolfsburg and Bournemouth. It's a shame his first name isn't Ander.
I can't speak for others but when I say "he's a squad player" I mean it in the the long term sense. Yeah we bought him as a starting eleven player and I have also always believed he would be able to make it especially after his really good form last season (which a few here have discredited to "just a few games") but it seems to me I along with the United staff was wrong about that. He is a big inconsistent or mismanaged to be part of the integral first team line up.
So even if what you say is correct - he's a squad player because he wasn't good enough to be a first teamer as was intended - what's so wrong about that? People here are calling him a clown and worst player in the PL. It's a typical Caf reaction at players they don't like (Young/Park/Gibson/Fletcher in the past have all suffered this). He's a very good player on a bad run in a team that's being severely mismanaged right now
Well I don't hate him and thank him for his performances of last season. He can be effective if used correctly but all his faults outweigh what he can do, example his how many times he's won a header but it's straight to the defenders or has given the ball away or gave away silly fouls while we're chasing the game. I'd actually like LVG to revert back to last season if Fellaini is going to be used. Memphis hasn't helped and Young hasn't been his direct replacement during the games, which is odd as the Fellaini Young combo worked well when needed. Ultimately I don't think he should've been signed, I don't think we should be trying to find a spot for him next season if we have the funds, he's not consistent or good enough overall and holding us back.
It's when people say crap like that I'm convinced the most they saw of Fellaini before United was in MOTD highlights.
Please tell us more.
Its like playing with 10 men, with the trade off that you win like 15% more knock ons from goal kicks. Philosophy.
LvG and his national team manager both play him as a midfielder. Have you ever considered that you're the one who's wrong about him?
Have you ever considered that Fellaini himself has said he's a forward player. Have you heard of Phil Neville? Are you aware he played for Everton and said Fellaini is forward player.
It's when people come up with crap like this that I know they're heavily influenced by his last season at Everton and haven't seen much.
Also when I say Forward player I drop the word striker, I don't say he's a striker. his game his effecting the forward play and also LVG who is not some muppet MOTD watcher also says he's a forward player.
Fellaini himself said he wanted to be the new Keane. Overly-ambitious, perhaps, but he saw himself as a midfielder.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/24087675
This is bullshit to the highest standard. Can you tell me a player who would perform well if not used correctly?
Have you forgotten what you just said?
I was actually going along with you a bit there but Jesus Christ at your reply.
Yes I remember it well. That's what Moyes brought him here to be and it's a pretty obvious statement to make as a new signing. He's also said his position is not a midfielder or defensive midfielder and he doesn't like defensive midfield.
And Moyes actually said in the wake of all this he saw him as our Frank Lampard. Get your head round that, people
Yeah, but if you ignore what Fellaini said and what Moyes said and where Moyes played him and where LvG plays him and where the Belgium manager plays him... he's a forward.
Everton fans will tell you Fellaini was a DM for 4 of his 5 years. Only got pushed up when Cahill left and they were too skint to replace him.
I don't think I've ever disliked a United player as much as I dislike Fellaini. I don't even want to watch us when I see his name in the starting lineup.
Theres a difference between what youve said and what I did. If youre not able to identify the context of our posts, then theres little I can do.
He's a dreadful footballer - his only 'skill' is being a nuisance. The problem is that even though he could be an effective 'plan B' in the final 10 minutes, his brain-dead stupidity means that he's more likely to give away a foul...I've lost count of the times that he doesn't even try to head the ball and just backs into a jumping player (sometimes throwing an elbow), which will be given as a foul pretty much every time.
That face grab against Stoke just sums him up...laughably stupid and his presence in the team is a microcosm of the problems at the club - throwing close to £30m on a player with no real ability, who wouldn't get close to being in a 'top' side. I don't 'hate' him but my heart sinks when he's on the team sheet - watching him makes me question why I watch football, given the complete lack of joy I experience whilst doing so.
That face grab against Stoke just sums him up...laughably stupid and his presence in the team is a microcosm of the problems at the club - throwing close to £30m on a player with no real ability, who wouldn't get close to being in a 'top' side. I don't 'hate' him but my heart sinks when he's on the team sheet - watching him makes me question why I watch football, given the complete lack of joy I experience whilst doing so.
The fact that his role as a squad player isn't because of his ability; it's because he has largely failed as a signing, and has regressed to being deadweight. He's not a player who seems to fit our playing style at all: the main argument for him being that he offers something different, because he's tall and physical. I'm all for squad players. In Park and Fletcher, you've just named two who, while not the greatest players to play for us, had very good spells with the club, and who were both consistent and dependable hard-workers when called upon.
Fellaini isn't really that. His positioning is woeful, his discipline is poor and he's wildly inconsistent whenever he comes on. He doesn't strike me as a squad player, in that respect. He's someone who'd probably be sold if it wasn't for our squad imbalance at the moment.
Pretty much sums up how I feel about him as well.
I don't even think he's useful in the role people claim to be his useful role.
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