Madness to take him off.
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Honestly at this rate I'm struggling to think of anyone else who deserves MotM for any reason. Fellaini scored our only goal (so far) and has generally caused havoc.
Well, Carrick
I'm delighted with the swift one touch football we are playing without him. Look at all the control of the midfield we've gained, all those beautiful goals, Pereira who's constantly blocked by him ia wreaking havoc amongst their ranks. All the shots we've had since he left. 
True enough, Carrick has looked decent.
I'm delighted with the swift one touch football we are playing without him. Look at all the control of the midfield we've gained, all those beautiful goals, Pereira who's constantly blocked by him ia wreaking havoc amongst their ranks. All the shots we've had since he left.
Yeah, expecting us to improve with Powell replacing him says a lot about Fellaini actually.
But Fellaini is the reason why we looked so shit though, our front players can't play football with him, all we do is hoofball, if other players had his chances we'd be 10bup, etc., so what's up?
That and few other things.
But he is shit, yes, one of our worst players today. Our keeper made just 6 less passes than him, and he is apparently our central midfielder. Great stuff. And look at the goals we scored against team that conceedes the most in league with our big Fella ocuppying the defenders.
This is absolutely nonsense, by the way.
He's an embarrassment. Yes, he scored, but we shouldn't be relying on this lump.
The most ridiculous substitution under Van Gaal. Our most dangerous player. He wasn't pretty to watch but he was causing problems, more than anyone else. He went off, we didn't cause a single problem again. Absolute madness. I'm neither here nor there with Fellaini. I don't like him but I don't think he's the embarrassing clogger many others do, but he had to stay on today. He just had to. Lunacy.
Our worst player! Stop embarrassing yourself. You do that well enough in other threads.
quite clearly our most dangerous player and by some distance.
He's shit.
When the Bournemouth player broke free and they won the corner from which they scored from, instead of Fellaini stepping in to block his path when he was running forward, he steps to the left to block an imaginary pass and lets the bournmoth player have a free run towards goal.
How anyone actually believes that this fecking tool is a defensive midfielder is beyond me, madness, just madness
When the Bournemouth player broke free and they won the corner from which they scored from, instead of Fellaini stepping in to block his path when he was running forward, he steps to the left to block an imaginary pass and lets the bournmoth player have a free run towards goal.
How anyone actually believes that this fecking tool is a defensive midfielder is beyond me, madness, just madness
Our worst player! Stop embarrassing yourself. You do that well enough in other threads.
quite clearly our most dangerous player and by some distance.
You see that is exactly what worries me so much.
Probably but that's not his fault is it? We're not shit because of Fellaini despite what some people might think.
Plays well. Basically has all our shots. Gets subbed. Genius LVG.
It's not his fault, I don't think this season he has even been utilized correctly.
Scores the goal, has over half our shots with McNair having the most after him and he is our worst player today? Jaysus lads, at least make it believable.
Quite rich response given that he scored and looked the only player that would score today. If I was as deluded and hell bent on spouting utter bullshit as his stalwart opponents I'd say that he's just surrounded by terrible players and therefore he doesn't score, line of defense alike to what our ex players claim about Rooney.
As for other responses, no, he's not a defensive midfielder, nobody says he is, just because LVG plays him there it doesn't make him one. We should revert to 4141 with two 8s we played last season but we won't do it.
He's an easy scapegoat because of his clumsiness but he's not worse than the rest.
who cares that fellaini looked decent and carrick as well, their output together is horrible, we couldnt control the game, thats why some of our attacking palyers are suffering, thats why we were so fecking shaky in defense, B'mouth could score 4 or 5, thats why you need schneiderlin and we couldnt make use of mata and the three at the top properly, it all wee just hit and miss attacking moves, there is no real tactics in it because of the desrupted midfield, with Herrera coming back it will be much better, I wouldnt mind keeping Fella on the pitch today, only for mata to go down and pereira to midfield
He was grand today.
Stupid to take him off. Thought he played pretty shit and the goal was just pretty much forcing it in, but if there's a situation you want him in for, is chasing it like we were with so many players out. He's not a midfielder. He's a target man, always has been, and is only good when used like that.
Perhaps people who want to discuss his performances who reside in a topic related to his performances. If you want to complain and throw shit excuses about why our inept Matas, Depays, Pereiras and Martials couldn't do shit today there are actually plenty of other topics related.
We took him off, they all still looked fecking shit, so what was the reason then? Post traumatic Fellaini disorder everybody else suffered from afterwards?
He was shit but still one of our better players and our goalscorer. Work that one out.
Can't get past the fact if he wasn't 7ft tall he wouldnt be near the club, yet he doesn't even use his physique intellgently enough.
Can't get past the fact if he wasn't 7ft tall he wouldnt be near the club, yet he doesn't even use his physique intellgently enough.
If De Gea was lame he wouldn't be at the club either but there you go
Was dangerous today and playing well, so of course LVG is not tolerating that. Back to the bench.
If De gea was shorter he would still have enough ability to add to the team, unlike Marouane.
Utilized correctly....
...He doesn't fit in anywhere...He's miserable..How we ended up paying that much for such a shit football player..
OMG, chill out..
If you had a closer look to how actually football works, would be nice actually, its a team game and its obvious that our far biggest weakeness is midfield right now, not the young defense but midfield, thats why we got knocked out of champions league the other night... surely the individual performance wasnt the worst by the two but as a team it didnt work at all, you just need to do a bit of analyzing .-)
I am not smashing fellaini for his performance, I am just stating it doesnt work like this with them on the pitch, after he got subbed off we sent on Nick powell who got one touch, we went all in, there was no order, thats just normal in this stage and state of the game.. you dont send a player on who didnt play football for one year to play striker and shuffle players and start to think that everything will work out well..
It was only 10 minutes to the game and we started to lose control of the game.. think of it as a whole
I like him still, my mother watching said 'he always seem to pop up in the box' and she hit the nail on the head for me. Always get in there and could have got rewarded a few times today if Bournemouth hadn't of done so well in those situations.
Not sure about him in a midfield 2 tho, never was, looked great in a 3 last year
Not sure about him in a midfield 2 tho, never was, looked great in a 3 last year
A lot of patronising bullshit that I don't really need but thank you.
When he's on the pitch there is purpose to our attacking moves. Yeah it may not be aesthetically pleasing but give me him than guys like Mata who flatter to deceive.
Also I loved his little cruyff turn immediately before he came off.
Probably his best game this season, tried to take up the slack in attack but left Carrick isolated too often, ludicrous to take him off though, Mata should have come off for Schneiderlin and just let Fellaini keep high up the pitch.
He is a useful player to gave in the squad. He seems to get blamed for everything.
With Fellaini playing two games in a row in midfield we conceeded 5 goals. Second goal/corner would never happen if he just moved 3 meters to the left to intercept their runner, but he was lazy and instead Martial chased him through entire feild and Fellaini just watched him get past him. Few players were shouting at him after the move but I guess somehow it wasn't his fault. Apart from that, he is nowhere to be found in defence in last two games, with Carrick and Schweinsteiger being one man midfield in both games. So, he's shite defensively.
This is his "defending" before they won a corner for the second goal:
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Carrick had 65 passes today, and his partner in midfield- Fellaini, had just 29. De Gea had 23, just 6 less passes than Manchester United central midfielder! Depay tried 37, 8 more passes than Fellaini. Basically, only de Gea, Martial and Perreira made less passes than him, and somehow people are saying our defence is shit, we can't control the game but yet are happy with Fellaini playing cm. So, he doesn't help us control the game, at all. If anything, we lose the control because of him.
As for the attack, apparently his strongest weapon, I heard we create chances with him on the pitch but yet we scored one goal today against the team that conceeds most goals in the league, two goals per game on average. Only chances are coming through him because that's the only way we can create something in opposition box when he is playing as a central midfielder, of course it will always be him because he spends most time in opposition box while our other players are actually involved in the build up, and spend a lot of time helping out our defence, because he doesn't do that, at all. When he is on the pitch our entire tactics are hoofing the ball to him in the box, so of course something will come out of him.
In his last 5 appearances in PL before today we haven't scored single goal, but yet somehow "we create chances with him on the pitch". Actually, in his entire PL campaign this year, we scored just today with him on the pitch, and 3 goals against Liverpool. That's just 4 goals with him on the pitch. He scored just one.
In CL he has 1 assist, so in total in PL and CL he played around 570 minutes and scored one goal and made one assist.
Why exactly he deserves to be on the pitch, at all? Can someone give me one valid reason apart from "he makes something happen" because quite obviously he doesn't, if that's true he would be scoring goals or our team would be scoring more with him on the pitch, and we aren't. Instead we are pretty much the same in attack, but at the same time we don't have any control of the game at all, and our defensive play is terrible when he is playing in midfield because his defensive play is non-existent.
* I know the pics aren't the greatest quality, but they can prove a point.
This is his "defending" before they won a corner for the second goal:
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Carrick had 65 passes today, and his partner in midfield- Fellaini, had just 29. De Gea had 23, just 6 less passes than Manchester United central midfielder! Depay tried 37, 8 more passes than Fellaini. Basically, only de Gea, Martial and Perreira made less passes than him, and somehow people are saying our defence is shit, we can't control the game but yet are happy with Fellaini playing cm. So, he doesn't help us control the game, at all. If anything, we lose the control because of him.
As for the attack, apparently his strongest weapon, I heard we create chances with him on the pitch but yet we scored one goal today against the team that conceeds most goals in the league, two goals per game on average. Only chances are coming through him because that's the only way we can create something in opposition box when he is playing as a central midfielder, of course it will always be him because he spends most time in opposition box while our other players are actually involved in the build up, and spend a lot of time helping out our defence, because he doesn't do that, at all. When he is on the pitch our entire tactics are hoofing the ball to him in the box, so of course something will come out of him.
In his last 5 appearances in PL before today we haven't scored single goal, but yet somehow "we create chances with him on the pitch". Actually, in his entire PL campaign this year, we scored just today with him on the pitch, and 3 goals against Liverpool. That's just 4 goals with him on the pitch. He scored just one.
In CL he has 1 assist, so in total in PL and CL he played around 570 minutes and scored one goal and made one assist.
Why exactly he deserves to be on the pitch, at all? Can someone give me one valid reason apart from "he makes something happen" because quite obviously he doesn't, if that's true he would be scoring goals or our team would be scoring more with him on the pitch, and we aren't. Instead we are pretty much the same in attack, but at the same time we don't have any control of the game at all, and our defensive play is terrible when he is playing in midfield because his defensive play is non-existent.
* I know the pics aren't the greatest quality, but they can prove a point.
@Amar__ your images dont work for a start, but generally freeze frames arent usually as concrete and conclusive as you might think for proving a point.
Regarding what Fellaini contributed today, it should be obvious - he got into the Bournemouth box frequently and got into good positions to shoot and create chances. He scored our only goal and could have had several more if not for good defending, blocking and goalkeeping by the opposition.
The thing you - and several other posters - dont seem to get is that Fellaini is quite obviously not just a typical central midfielder, and therefore it is fairly pointless to measure him as one. He has a particular skillset which is pretty well agreed upon, so why dont you judge him on how he performs within that skillset, rather than complaining because he isnt a different player?
Going on today's match, Fellaini was clearly playing a more advanced box to box role than Carrick, who was the primary holding midfielder. I think it is reasonable to assume that this is as per LVG's instructions, and not just something Fellaini decided to do by himself - especially since he had games last season in a more dedicated defensive role (such as man marking Fabregas against Chelsea, a game in which he won MotM) he was able to perform this role.
Basically Fellaini is in a no-win situation with people like you. You complain and criticise him for 'abandoning' Carrick in midfield, and yet it was because of this that he was able to create several chances, score our only goal and have several other shots which on another day could have gone in. On the other hand, if he had stayed back alongside Carrick for the entire game, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that he would be criticised for not getting forward, using his physicality, playing to his strengths etc etc.
The bottom line and answer to your question is the same thing I have already said twice in this post - Fellaini scored our only goal and could have had more. This is more than Martial, Mata, Memphis, Lingard or Pereira managed over the game. Following the matchday thread it was actually highly amusing to watch the hordes of posters angrily berating Fellaini for most of the first half, and then complaining so vociferously when he was substituted - I was glad for the entertainment since I certainly didnt get it for the match, even after the root-of-all-evil Fellaini was taken off (and by the way, we were worse after he came off).
Regarding what Fellaini contributed today, it should be obvious - he got into the Bournemouth box frequently and got into good positions to shoot and create chances. He scored our only goal and could have had several more if not for good defending, blocking and goalkeeping by the opposition.
The thing you - and several other posters - dont seem to get is that Fellaini is quite obviously not just a typical central midfielder, and therefore it is fairly pointless to measure him as one. He has a particular skillset which is pretty well agreed upon, so why dont you judge him on how he performs within that skillset, rather than complaining because he isnt a different player?
Going on today's match, Fellaini was clearly playing a more advanced box to box role than Carrick, who was the primary holding midfielder. I think it is reasonable to assume that this is as per LVG's instructions, and not just something Fellaini decided to do by himself - especially since he had games last season in a more dedicated defensive role (such as man marking Fabregas against Chelsea, a game in which he won MotM) he was able to perform this role.
Basically Fellaini is in a no-win situation with people like you. You complain and criticise him for 'abandoning' Carrick in midfield, and yet it was because of this that he was able to create several chances, score our only goal and have several other shots which on another day could have gone in. On the other hand, if he had stayed back alongside Carrick for the entire game, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that he would be criticised for not getting forward, using his physicality, playing to his strengths etc etc.
The bottom line and answer to your question is the same thing I have already said twice in this post - Fellaini scored our only goal and could have had more. This is more than Martial, Mata, Memphis, Lingard or Pereira managed over the game. Following the matchday thread it was actually highly amusing to watch the hordes of posters angrily berating Fellaini for most of the first half, and then complaining so vociferously when he was substituted - I was glad for the entertainment since I certainly didnt get it for the match, even after the root-of-all-evil Fellaini was taken off (and by the way, we were worse after he came off).
Can't believe you are one of the few here who understands what's going on with fellaini in midfield. In ideal world I wouldn't start him at all but he would be defo much more useful as CAM in a team with a good midfield, which can control the game and actually run, he showed that in short spells last season when we had Carrick in a good form along with Herrera, he was very good even with Rooney up top.. that's his position but he's absolutely terrible defensively and mobility wise, his attacking contribution is also speculative but having Marouane Fellaini now in midfield doesnt mean any better attack and much weaker defense. And that' shocking to see as someone like Van Gaal always proclaimed how his balance is important.. there is absolutely no balance there right now..With Fellaini playing two games in a row in midfield we conceeded 5 goals. Second goal/corner would never happen if he just moved 3 meters to the left to intercept their runner, but he was lazy and instead Martial chased him through entire feild and Fellaini just watched him get past him. Few players were shouting at him after the move but I guess somehow it wasn't his fault. Apart from that, he is nowhere to be found in defence in last two games, with Carrick and Schweinsteiger being one man midfield in both games. So, he's shite defensively.
This is his "defending" before they won a corner for the second goal:
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Carrick had 65 passes today, and his partner in midfield- Fellaini, had just 29. De Gea had 23, just 6 less passes than Manchester United central midfielder! Depay tried 37, 8 more passes than Fellaini. Basically, only de Gea, Martial and Perreira made less passes than him, and somehow people are saying our defence is shit, we can't control the game but yet are happy with Fellaini playing cm. So, he doesn't help us control the game, at all. If anything, we lose the control because of him.
As for the attack, apparently his strongest weapon, I heard we create chances with him on the pitch but yet we scored one goal today against the team that conceeds most goals in the league, two goals per game on average. Only chances are coming through him because that's the only way we can create something in opposition box when he is playing as a central midfielder, of course it will always be him because he spends most time in opposition box while our other players are actually involved in the build up, and spend a lot of time helping out our defence, because he doesn't do that, at all. When he is on the pitch our entire tactics are hoofing the ball to him in the box, so of course something will come out of him.
In his last 5 appearances in PL before today we haven't scored single goal, but yet somehow "we create chances with him on the pitch". Actually, in his entire PL campaign this year, we scored just today with him on the pitch, and 3 goals against Liverpool. That's just 4 goals with him on the pitch. He scored just one.
In CL he has 1 assist, so in total in PL and CL he played around 570 minutes and scored one goal and made one assist.
Why exactly he deserves to be on the pitch, at all? Can someone give me one valid reason apart from "he makes something happen" because quite obviously he doesn't, if that's true he would be scoring goals or our team would be scoring more with him on the pitch, and we aren't. Instead we are pretty much the same in attack, but at the same time we don't have any control of the game at all, and our defensive play is terrible when he is playing in midfield because his defensive play is non-existent.
* I know the pics aren't the greatest quality, but they can prove a point.
And with that kind if tactics that suit Fellaini we didn't create enough chances, didn't control the game and defended badly, so it was obviously wrong tactics to use from the start, which means that we shouldn't have used him un a way we did.
Everyone was complaining because it actually makes sense to play that kind of football when you spend all your other ideas and have no much time left, so most teams will obviously hoof the ball and having someone like Fellaini to jump is useful in dying minutes when the oppositiin is defending deep on their box. There is also that argument that having Powell on the pitch doesn't bring anything useful at all.
Btw pictures are working for me.
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