[Roboc7]

I take your point, but we have definitely had players with questionable traits in the past such as Keane and Cantona (not that I am comparing Fellaini to them in ability or importance of course). Would they get called filth? Probably not, they are instead club legends. Even Paul Scholes had a bit of a nasty side - his bad tackles became something of a running joke though, rather than being used as an attack on his character. To me that basically says that the fans dont mind a player being a dick, if they are a good enough player. So where do you draw the line? How good does a player need to be, for it to be acceptable for them to have a nasty streak? Fellaini has arguably been one of our better outfield players this season, but clearly not enough so that fans will forgive what he did yesterday - for me the key distinguishing factor is that Fellaini is a player that a lot of fans never wanted, still dont want, and therefore are eager to use any given opportunity to have a go at him.

Again I refer to the spitting incident earlier this season (against Chelsea I think) where Fellaini was seen shouting at the floored opponent, accusing him of diving. In my mind there was never any sort of case for it being a deliberate spit, but we had our own fans trying to create slow-mo gifs and still images to use against him. It is this active character assassination that I really have a problem with - just like when Fellaini was booed by our own fans in preseason (which for me is the most embarrassing and shameful thing I have ever witnessed as a United fan). These sorts of actions give the clear impression that a significant portion of the fanbase have basically had it in for Fellaini from day one, and look for any excuse to berate him.

I really think you need some perspective if you are that outraged by a bit of booing of a player who had only ever performed poorly, ryan giggs has been booed off in the past, it has and will happen to much better and much less deserving players than fellaini.

And to be honest it might not be fair to give more leeway to the likes of Keane and scholes but life isn't fair and it's not really hard to accept why more allowances would be made for world class players who drove the club to trophy after trophy in comparison to someone who has been pretty ordinary over a two year spell, not won a thing and will never be world class.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

I take your point, but we have definitely had players with questionable traits in the past such as Keane and Cantona (not that I am comparing Fellaini to them in ability or importance of course). Would they get called filth? Probably not, they are instead club legends. Even Paul Scholes had a bit of a nasty side - his bad tackles became something of a running joke though, rather than being used as an attack on his character. To me that basically says that the fans dont mind a player being a dick, if they are a good enough player. So where do you draw the line? How good does a player need to be, for it to be acceptable for them to have a nasty streak?

Bit in bold is probably true. In answer to your final question, about a hundred times better than Fellaini!

Anyway, from my own perspective, I'm usually inclined to defend the bloke. I think he got unfair stick, has shown real mental strength to turns things round and has been instrumental in getting us into the top four. So I'm not looking for excuses to have a go at him. It was just a really nasty challenge. So nasty that it's something you hardly ever see. Right up there with the likes of Costa and Suarez stamping on people, only even more dangerous. The outrage is completely justified IMO.

 

[Classical Mechanic]

It was a horrible challenge. Made me lose some respect for him. He looked regretful as he left the pitch. Hopefully he apologised afterwards.

 

[Walrus]

I really think you need some perspective if you are that outraged by a bit of booing of a player who had only ever performed poorly, ryan giggs has been booed off in the past, it has and will happen to much better and much less deserving players than fellaini.

And to be honest it might not be fair to give more leeway to the likes of Keane and scholes but life isn't fair and it's not really hard to accept why more allowances would be made for world class players who drove the club to trophy after trophy in comparison to someone who has been pretty ordinary over a two year spell, not won a thing and will never be world class.

People have been booed off after poor performances, that is entirely different to booing a player every time they touch the ball, as soon as they have been brought on, in their first appearance of the [Pre]season.

"Life isnt fair" - is that really the justification now?

Sorry to say but I find your entire post pretty ridiculous. You are basically saying Fellaini deserved to be booed because he had a bad season last season (like every other fecking player at the club apart from Januzaj and De Gea), and that its ok to have double standards because life isnt fair.

Bit in bold is probably true. In answer to your final question, about a hundred times better than Fellaini!

Anyway, from my own perspective, I'm usually inclined to defend the bloke. I think he got unfair stick, has shown real mental strength to turns things round and has been instrumental in getting us into the top four. So I'm not looking for excuses to have a go at him. It was just a really nasty challenge. So nasty that it's something you hardly ever see. Right up there with the likes of Costa and Suarez stamping on people, if anything even more dangerous. The outrage is completely justified IMO.

For me there is a line between criticising the tackle and the performance - which is perfectly justified - and calling the player filth, or scum, or doing as @Snake Plissken did and wishing injury on him. It would be 'not-cool' to direct that sort of thing at an opposition player, let alone one of ours.

I didnt see the match in realtime, so am going by the replays etc that I have seen of the tackle, which is why I am hesitant to say anything there - but based on what I have seen I think you are exaggerating a little. It was a bad tackle, he deserved to be sent off, thats about the extent of it for me.

 

[Roboc7]

People have been booed off after poor performances, that is entirely different to booing a player every time they touch the ball, as soon as they have been brought on, in their first appearance of the [Pre]season.

"Life isnt fair" - is that really the justification now?

Sorry to say but I find your entire post pretty ridiculous. You are basically saying Fellaini deserved to be booed because he had a bad season last season (like every other fecking player at the club apart from Januzaj and De Gea), and that its ok to have double standards because life isnt fair.

No I am not saying he deserved it but it is what happens in football but to still be referring to it now and labelling it a as the most shameful thing you have ever seen is dramatic and ridiculous, that was the point I was making, he isn't the first and won't be the last to be booed so I don't really see the big deal. It's counter productive but it happens, if he was still being booed now you might have a point but you need to let it go to be honest.

He isn't a victim just someone who divides opinion because we overpaid for him and he doesn't fit the typical image or style of player we are accustomed to. He will never be universally loved because he isn't that good, it doesn't mean he can't play a part of be effective.

And yes life isn't fair, a great player will get more leeway than someone like fellaini because that's the way the world works. Liverpool stood by Suarez despite him being a racist who went round biting people, if borini did the same they would have torn up his contract. It's not fair but like I said life isn't fair, hence why scholes and Keane won't be criticised as much as fellaini.

 

[NinjaZombie]

when ever you play a forwrad player who is 6' 4'' you will always find the team playing ball


I have no problem with pass and move as a way of creating space so we can create chances. If we were up there with goals scored and attempts on target then I would say it was working.

We have had more possession than any other team in the league this year while only scoring 62 goals and creating less chances than QPR. We're turning into a caricature of Arsenal with the way we hold on to the ball while creating little end product.

Fair enough. I agree with the fact that we've looked like a terrible imitation of Arsenal. But I don't think Herrera and Mata are the problems here. We need better attacking fullbacks who can exploit wide area when Mata and Herrera (for example) overload the middle areas while linking up with the striker.

 

[Walrus]

No I am not saying he deserved it but it is what happens in football but to still be referring to it now and labelling it a as the most shameful thing you have ever seen is dramatic and ridiculous, that was the point I was making, he isn't the first and won't be the last to be booed so I don't really see the big deal. It's counter productive but it happens, if he was still being booed now you might have a point but you need to let it go to be honest.

He isn't a victim just someone who divides opinion because we overpaid for him and he doesn't fit the typical image or style of player we are accustomed to. He will never be universally loved because he isn't that good, it doesn't mean he can't play a part of be effective.

And yes life isn't fair, a great player will get more leeway than someone like fellaini because that's the way the world works. Liverpool stood by Suarez despite him being a racist who went round biting people, if borini did the same they would have torn up his contract. It's not fair but like I said life isn't fair, hence why scholes and Keane won't be criticised as much as fellaini.

You are talking about a division of opinions, I am talking about 'fans' abusing and wishing injury on our own players. These are very different things. Nobody is forcing anybody to instantly become a Fellaini fan, but to just show a baseline level of respect to someone who has fought their way into the starting XI, been one of our better outfield performers, and shown a fantastic mental attitude and determination this season. I stand by what I said (about him being booed against Valencia) - it was pathetic and embarrassing and I am not alone in that opinion, especially since he was our best player in that game once he was brought on, and scored the winning goal.

 

[Roboc7]

You are talking about a division of opinions, I am talking about 'fans' abusing and wishing injury on our own players. These are very different things. Nobody is forcing anybody to instantly become a Fellaini fan, but to just show a baseline level of respect to someone who has fought their way into the starting XI, been one of our better outfield performers, and shown a fantastic mental attitude and determination this season. I stand by what I said (about him being booed against Valencia) - it was pathetic and embarrassing and I am not alone in that opinion, especially since he was our best player in that game once he was brought on, and scored the winning goal.

Well like I said you need some perspective and you are too subjective in your views regarding fellaini which is evident when you call my post ridiculous when your are referring to that incident as the most shameful thing you have seen at old Trafford. I can't imagine there are many who would share your view to that extreme because it's pretty ridiculous. What happened to fellaini was unsavoury and needless but there it is water under the bridge now and all the people ironically cheering him would have changed their tune once he scored.

I agree he deserves some respect and shouldn't be subjected to the levels of abuse he receives but a minority will always have those kind of views and a number of players at the club are subjected to the same kind of abuse. Well done to him for coming back from last season and for a player of his ability I think he has a good season, same goes for Ashley young but in terms or where we want to be be they are both still average and neither will probably ever justify the money spent on them in terms of fees or wages.

 

[Attila]

£25 million offer comes in. Do we sell him?

Would sell for £20m.

 

[The Don]

Hope someone cripples him, he's a vile player who's got a history of this sort of thing.

Also him out of the side could only help United improve long term in my opinion.

You deserve a permanent ban for a post like that. It's an absolute disgrace to these forums if you get away with that unchallenged by the mods/admins.

 

[Snake Plissken]

You deserve a permanent ban for a post like that. It's an absolute disgrace to these forums if you get away with that unchallenged by the mods/admins.

Gimme a break. He's a dirty dirty player. It might have been an overreaction to seeing another bit of thuggery from him, but crying for another poster to be perma banned? You're pathetic

 

[RikRuud]

Excellent season from him, tarnished a little by a moment of madness on Sunday. Think he may still be fighting to keep his place next season, regardless of his improvement.

 

[montpelier]

I dunno about malicious in the truest definition of the word. I think he realised he was getting there too late and went through with it to try and avoid being embarrassed by his terrible misjudgement of the timing. Oh dear, I was committed to it, kinda thing.

Terrible tackle, stonewall red card.

He gets away with a fair amount of stuff, a bit more than what he is sometimes harshly penalised for.

Done well this season and we might not be top 4 without him, which is a depressing thought.

Fair's fair, but I can't stand him playing for Utd, doesn't seem right.

 

[Walrus]

You deserve a permanent ban for a post like that. It's an absolute disgrace to these forums if you get away with that unchallenged by the mods/admins.

Gimme a break. He's a dirty dirty player. It might have been an overreaction to seeing another bit of thuggery from him, but crying for another poster to be perma banned? You're pathetic

@Snake Plissken what exactly is wrong with you?

@Roboc7 I dont think there is much point in continuing this. I think it is pathetic and embarrassing behaviour for our 'fans' to boo one of our own players every time they touch the ball. Even more when there isnt actually any justification other than "we dont like this player and think he is shit." If Liverpool fans were doing it then there would be a multi page thread on here dedicated to laughing at them and calling them pathetic - and rightly so. I am not really sure why you are trying to defend it.

 

[Snake Plissken]

@Snake Plissken what exactly is wrong with you?

@Roboc7 I dont think there is much point in continuing this. I think it is pathetic and embarrassing behaviour for our 'fans' to boo one of our own players every time they touch the ball. Even more when there isnt actually any justification other than "we dont like this player and think he is shit." If Liverpool fans were doing it then there would be a multi page thread on here dedicated to laughing at them and calling them pathetic - and rightly so. I am not really sure why you are trying to defend it.

Simple, I only just got around to seeing the challenge, and my initial reaction, though an over-reaction, was it that he deserves a taste of his own medicine. Crying crocodile tears begging for me to be banned for that is just ridiculous.

 

[Roboc7]

@Snake Plissken what exactly is wrong with you?

@Roboc7 I dont think there is much point in continuing this. I think it is pathetic and embarrassing behaviour for our 'fans' to boo one of our own players every time they touch the ball. Even more when there isnt actually any justification other than "we dont like this player and think he is shit." If Liverpool fans were doing it then there would be a multi page thread on here dedicated to laughing at them and calling them pathetic - and rightly so. I am not really sure why you are trying to defend it.

There isn't any point because you are twisting what I am saying, I am not defending it, I said it was wrong, just pointing out you are blowing it out or proportion in terms of how bad it was and it is pointless to be still talking about it. Claiming it was most shameful thing you've seen at old Trafford is dramatic and over the top.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Actively hoping a United player gets crippled shouldn't be a bannable offence. Definitely one of the most tasteless and stupid things posted on here over the years though.

 

[Rykker_4united]

You deserve a permanent ban for a post like that. It's an absolute disgrace to these forums if you get away with that unchallenged by the mods/admins.

Christ, take a minute and settle down.

 

[Robbie Boy]

@Walrus is clearly Fellaini. He gets so emotional about anything Fellaini related that it has to be the only explanation.

 

[Devil may care]

The thing that still puzzles me is why he did it, no matter how some try to defend it there was clear intent to hurt McShane, yet it wasn't a heated game with anything on the line for us or any prior bad blood.

 

[Walrus]

There isn't any point because you are twisting what I am saying, I am not defending it, I said it was wrong, just pointing out you are blowing it out or proportion in terms of how bad it was and it is pointless to be still talking about it. Claiming it was most shameful thing you've seen at old Trafford is dramatic and over the top.

If you think that my claim is so dramatic and over the top, then please enlighten me on what you think is a worse/more embarrassing/shameful etc thing that you have witnessed.

 

[Walrus]

@Walrus is clearly Fellaini. He gets so emotional about anything Fellaini related that it has to be the only explanation.

To be honest I think if you read the last couple of pages of this thread, there have been plenty of more 'emotional' posts than mine.

 

[Robbie Boy]

To be honest I think if you read the last couple of pages of this thread, there have been plenty of more 'emotional' posts than mine.

You take one or two extreme posts and act like the whole world hates the guy. I mean just chill out. Yes 'some' fans booed him? So what? It happens. Football clubs have some shit fans, that's life.

 

[Roboc7]

If you think that my claim is so dramatic and over the top, then please enlighten me on what you think is a worse/more embarrassing/shameful etc thing that you have witnessed.

Already have, giggs being booed on more than one occasion. Plenty more has happened as well, world doesn't revolve around fellaini, better and worse player than him have and will be booed.

 

[Giggsy92]

The thing that still puzzles me is why he did it, no matter how some try to defend it there was clear intent to hurt McShane, yet it wasn't a heated game with anything on the line for us or any prior bad blood.

There was a minor kerfuffle when they were challenging for the ball about 30 seconds before the challenge, think Fellaini was annoyed about that.

 

[Devil may care]

There was a minor kerfuffle when they were challenging for the ball about 30 seconds before the challenge, think Fellaini was annoyed about that.

That happens in nearly every game with him though, opposition players are always getting into it with him over his elbow first style and he gets penalized a lot for phantom fouls which must irritate him, he doesn't usually react like that.

 

[The Black Pearl]

If you think that my claim is so dramatic and over the top, then please enlighten me on what you think is a worse/more embarrassing/shameful etc thing that you have witnessed.

Not all fans are the do gooder, must adore the ground their players walk upon, regardless of how they are performing week in week out type.

Some will let a player know if he isn't performing to the level expected of him, they are contributing towards his wages after all so although it mightn't look to good it is understandable enough.

And in fairness it's not like fans will boo one of their own players for absolutely nothing either.

I often booed a player albeit in a different sport myself, it was actually an amateur sport too. He was acting the prick both on and off the pitch. Funnily enough once the supporters got on his back he copped himself on!

 

[The Don]

Gimme a break. He's a dirty dirty player. It might have been an overreaction to seeing another bit of thuggery from him, but crying for another poster to be perma banned? You're pathetic

Are you starting to see the irony of borderline hysterical overreactions now?

 

[The Don]

Christ, take a minute and settle down.

yeah, I'm the one who needs to settle down. Some weirdo, most likely sat with his flaccid pens in his hand, angry at the world because it won't go hard, is furiously mashing his keyboard, in a fit of misdirected rage, wishing one of his own players to be crippled and I'm the one who needs to settle down?
The fact that it's not only tolerated but defended, makes it all the more surreal.

This place really brings the warped saddos out in force.

 

[Walrus]

@Robbie Boy I simply think it is out of order to be calling one of our players filth, scum, or wishing injury on them. Personally, I dont see how that has become such a radical, emotion, 'out there' opinion. Its the sort of thing I expect to see on RAWK, not Redcafe, and am surprised at how many people here are defending these sorts of post.

Not all fans are the do gooder, must adore the ground their players walk upon, regardless of how they are performing week in week out type.

Some will let a player know if he isn't performing to the level expected of him, they are contributing towards his wages after all so although it mightn't look to good it is understandable enough.

And in fairness it's not like fans will boo one of their own players for absolutely nothing either.

I often booed a player albeit in a different sport myself, it was actually an amateur sport too. He was acting the prick both on and off the pitch. Funnily enough once the supporters got on his back he copped himself on!

Again, the difference is that the player had just come on for his first appearance of the [pre]season. It wasnt a case of "isnt performing to the level expected of him" because the circumstances were different - it was simply a player that the fans didnt want at the club for whatever reason, being brought on by the manager for a game in preseason, and getting booed every time he touched the ball.


@The Don

I know exactly what you mean. I am finding myself constantly having to defend an opinion which I feel should just be common sense. This thread is like a warphole to RAWK at times it seems.

 

[Robbie Boy]

@Walrus. Who is defending any posts? Yes, wishing injury your own player or booing them is bad form, but it's life. You are merely taking a very very small sample of our fans and trying to make your case. I've seen some of your posts on Fellaini and you have no objectivity when it comes to the man. You act like everyone is out to get him. Look at the average ratings on here and you will see that Fellaini is par for the course in that respect. Most agree that he has played an important role this season but you clearly rate him way higher than the majority. I just don't understand why you're so heavily invested in one player and seem genuinely upset that a small section of fans booed him.

 

[Walrus]

@Walrus. Who is defending any posts? Yes, wishing injury your own player or booing them is bad form, but it's life. You are merely taking a very very small sample of our fans and trying to make your case. I've seen some of your posts on Fellaini and you have no objectivity when it comes to the man. You act like everyone is out to get him. Look at the average ratings on here and you will see that Fellaini is par for the course in that respect. Most agree that he has played an important role this season but you clearly rate him way higher than the majority. I just don't understand why you're so heavily invested in one player and seem genuinely upset that a small section of fans booed him.

I doubt that I do rate Fellaini higher than most on here, and nor do I think that I lack objectivity - I have said several times he deserved to be sent off, and I have also said plenty of times over the course of the season in this and the matchday threads, when he has played poorly. I have said innumerable times that I simply dislike the double standards applied to Fellaini compared with other players in the squad, and that he gets a vastly disproportionate amount of criticism compared with others.
I am not "genuinely upset" about the booing that happened against Valencia - I used that situation as an example for some of my other points, but @Roboc7 and others started to defend it, which led to this discussion.

Contrary to popular belief, I didnt at the start of the season just draw a name from a hat and decide that Fellaini was going to be my agenda for the year - I was annoyed at the level of unwarranted abuse and criticism he got from the fans over the summer and early season, so I defended him, and that remains largely unchanged.

 

[Robbie Boy]

I doubt that I do rate Fellaini higher than most on here, and nor do I think that I lack objectivity - I have said several times he deserved to be sent off, and I have also said plenty of times over the course of the season in this and the matchday threads, when he has played poorly. I have said innumerable times that I simply dislike the double standards applied to Fellaini compared with other players in the squad, and that he gets a vastly disproportionate amount of criticism compared with others.
I am not "genuinely upset" about the booing that happened against Valencia - I used that situation as an example for some of my other points, but @Roboc7 and others started to defend it, which led to this discussion.

Contrary to popular belief, I didnt at the start of the season just draw a name from a hat and decide that Fellaini was going to be my agenda for the year - I was annoyed at the level of unwarranted abuse and criticism he got from the fans over the summer and early season, so I defended him, and that remains largely unchanged.

That's all well and good but I've seen you defend poor performances from him and try to blame others when he has played poor. That, to me, is a clear leak of objectivity. I'm still baffled at how and why you are so heavily invested in him. He was largely poor last season and the whole Moyes era left a very sour taste. Unfortunately Fellaini became the poster boy for that era. He was probably slated to an OTT extent by some, but I still don't understand why that bothers you. Evans gets lambasted constantly, do you defend him at every given chance? Carrick was derided at times during his career with us, yet he has always been an extremely valuable player. These things happen, football fans are fickle and anger will often be directed at one player, it probably isn't right but it's life. You seem to have a massive dislike for Falcao afterall and have used Welbeck to have digs at him.

You do rate him far higher than most. The consnsousnis is that he played an important role this season but he shouldn't be an automatic starter next; I very much doubt you agree with that.

 

[Rykker_4united]

yeah, I'm the one who needs to settle down. Some weirdo, most likely sat with his flaccid pens in his hand, angry at the world because it won't go hard, is furiously mashing his keyboard, in a fit of misdirected rage, wishing one of his own players to be crippled and I'm the one who needs to settle down?
The fact that it's not only tolerated but defended, makes it all the more surreal.

This place really brings the warped saddos out in force.

Theres far worse things on the Internet. I think you're just being sensitive. Like the poster has already said, he knows its an overreaction and he doesn't genuinely wish someone would cripple a player. I'm sure you've never said anything that you would later retract as it offended some.

 

[Roboc7]

That's all well and good but I've seen you defend poor performances from him and try to blame others when he has played poor. That, to me, is a clear leak of objectivity. I'm still baffled at how and why you are so heavily invested in him. He was largely poor last season and the whole Moyes era left a very sour taste. Unfortunately Fellaini became the poster boy for that era. He was probably slated to an OTT extent by some, but I still don't understand why that bothers you. Evans gets lambasted constantly, do you defend him at every given chance? Carrick was derided at times during his career with us, yet he has always been an extremely valuable player. These things happen, football fans are fickle and anger will often be directed at one player, it probably isn't right but it's life. You seem to have a massive dislike for Falcao afterall and have used Welbeck to have digs at him.

You do rate him far higher than most. The consnsousnis is that he played an important role this season but he shouldn't be an automatic starter next; I very much doubt you agree with that.

I agree when someone labels a few boos and ironic cheers as the most shameful and embarrassing incident they have ever witnessed as a utd fan it points to a lack of objectivity. Better and more experienced players have experienced worse than that.

 

[Garethw]

Have some respect for Snake Plisken, he's the hero of the Third World War for Christ's sake.

 

[The Black Pearl]

No need for the running around waving imaginary cards.

 

[Walrus]

That's all well and good but I've seen you defend poor performances from him and try to blame others when he has played poor. That, to me, is a clear leak of objectivity. I'm still baffled at how and why you are so heavily invested in him. He was largely poor last season and the whole Moyes era left a very sour taste. Unfortunately Fellaini became the poster boy for that era. He was probably slated to an OTT extent by some, but I still don't understand why that bothers you. Evans gets lambasted constantly, do you defend him at every given chance? Carrick was derided at times during his career with us, yet he has always been an extremely valuable player. These things happen, football fans are fickle and anger will often be directed at one player, it probably isn't right but it's life. You seem to have a massive dislike for Falcao afterall and have used Welbeck to have digs at him.

You do rate him far higher than most. The consnsousnis is that he played an important role this season but he shouldn't be an automatic starter next; I very much doubt you agree with that.

Not quite. I have defended him when people have been citing Fellaini as the reason that our team plays badly - not the same thing by a long shot. Eg when we went 3 games without scoring, Fellaini was of course copping a fair bit of flak, whilst other attacking players (notably Mata and Herrera) were largely exempt from any real criticism, despite arguably contributing less. This is consistent with what I said previously about disproportionate criticism.

I agree with what you say regarding Moyes, and Fellaini becoming the poster boy for that era. Fellaini was not the signing we needed that summer, everyone knew that - including me - we wanted Kroos, Thiago or Fabregas, and we got Fellaini, and overpaid for him at that. This was Moyes' fault however, not Fellaini's. Most fans wanted and expected Fellaini to be gone last summer, LVG showed some faith in him and he has had a decent season, all things considered - it is worth remember that, that had the fans had their way, we may well have ended up finishing 7th again. LVG was perhaps the one person whose vision was not clouded by the previous season, he came into the club and everyone had a clean slate, and Fellaini has shown his worth. Also, I dont think he should be an automatic starter next season, but he should be in and around the first XI and depending on how he and the other players perform, may or may not be a regular starter. I dont think that that is the 'consensus' however, as plenty here have voiced their opinion that they want him gone this summer. I had hoped to reopen the poll I created in another thread after the season was finished, to gauge the consensus/opinion, but I dont think the mods want to.

The Falcao discussion isnt really relevant to this thread, but for what its worth, I have been impressed by Falcao's professionalism this season, and he seems like a top bloke. It didnt work out for him with us, I wish him well for the future (this is not the same as booing him or calling him filth).

 

[Acole9]

A horrendous tackle and completely needless given the circumstances of the match. It could come back to haunt him next season as he'll now have a three match ban and someone could come in and take his spot.

 

[The Don]

Theres far worse things on the Internet. I think you're just being sensitive. Like the poster has already said, he knows its an overreaction and he doesn't genuinely wish someone would cripple a player. I'm sure you've never said anything that you would later retract as it offended some.

I don't give a flying feck if there is or isn't. This isn't 4chan, it's RedCafe, one of the most respected football sites on the internet. These posts are visible to the public. The general quality of the football forums are bad enough, with all the negativity, moaning and groaning about everything under the sun. Now we've stooped to the level of Bluemoon and RAWK, with trash posts like this.

Overreaction? I tell you what, there's a massive difference between overreacting in real life an doing it on a discussion forum. IRL, it's an instant reaction, this clown, however, had to think about what he was going to write, probably a couple of times, yet still chose to post it anyway.
If it was a bad joke, or an ironic post that didn't hit the mark, fair enough, it happens, but to actually think about one of your own players being crippled, (yes, crippled. As in loss of the use of his limbs and therefore loss of career, loss of earnings and life and quality of life as he knows it, all gone) to actually think about it, decide it would be a good thing to happen, then share those thoughts with thousands of people on a football forum, especially one as popular as this...wow. Its too far for me. Way too far.
I mean this isn't some young nerd on reddit/4chan/9gag etc. posting for shock value and attention, he was sharing his own thoughts on a football player. Christ alive.

I honestly think he should apologise to each and every person who had the misfortune to read it.

I mentioned a permaban, for bringing the football forums into disrepute but tbh, a stern warning about never repeating such behaviour would be better. Everyone deserves a second chance but only after they've wrung out for their indiscretions.