Marouane Fellaini | 2013/14 Performances

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Meh, he's a part of a midfield of a team that just got to quarters, his manager rates him and plays him, his team is winning. I guess it's all that matters as for now really.

You're completely spot on. Which is why I don't get why his fans seem to get so bothered by the dog's abuse he is getting on here. If he is part of LVG's plans after the World Cup, he will get a bit of support off the back of that.
 
RVP debut match I reckon, on paper he was a SS but on the field he played cm a lot.
He did nothing but bring long balls down that game and win headers, watch his match highlights if you don't believe me. Sure he dominated, but in the way Andy carroll has a great game.
 
It's like they've found a winning formula and they're so relieved that they're afraid to change it. Stick someone who's better defensively and in possession in that team and they'd be a lot better imo.
 
It's like they've found a winning formula and they're so relieved that they're afraid to change it. Stick someone who's better defensively and in possession in that team and they'd be a lot better imo.

Yea and if they put Messi and Ronaldo instead of Mertens and Mirallas there they'd probably do better as well.
 
Meh, he's a part of a midfield of a team that just got to quarters, his manager rates him and plays him, his team is winning. I guess it's all that matters as for now really.
This + the hyperbole concerning his performance today. What is he supposed to do? play raking balls all the time? That's not his game. He helped his team defensively, kept it simple and had a few decent moves in tight areas. Would have had a couple of goals if Hazard didn't forget how to pass the ball. Otherwise his performance was a bit indifferent but far frome a diabolical or the worst ever as you would assume from the last page.
 
He did nothing but bring long balls down that game and win headers, watch his match highlights if you don't believe me. Sure he dominated, but in the way Andy carroll has a great game.

I'm no fan of the guy but in fairness in that particular game he was causing all sorts of problems for us. Was one of the best individual performances I've seen against us for a long time
 
He did nothing but bring long balls down that game and win headers, watch his match highlights if you don't believe me. Sure he dominated, but in the way Andy carroll has a great game.
It was not only that, but simply making yourself available and bringen the balls to player who do things with it is also a performance IMO. He was everywhere that match.
 
So he's an international midfielder is he? what an absolute joke. Bradley ran rings round him tonight. Don't care what Wilmots thinks of Fellaini cos he is not our manager. Only effective as a long ball player and will never be a top midfielder for us. The best thing LVG could do is show him the door when he arrives and he'll have my undying support.
 
Indeed. There is simply no role for Fellaini at the club. He's poor as a holding midfielder, not much better in a box-to-box capacity and useful to certain teams as a target man. Unfortunately, United aren't the latter, so he really cannot offer anything here.

He's probably the first team midfielder I'd like to see leave the most - Anderson aside. Much-maligned Cleverley doesn't have the ceiling to become a starting midfielder for us and he is a very limited player without even one outstanding quality, but at least he is a player who is a befitting of van Gaal's philosophy when high on confidence and in form. I do think LVG can revitalise him to some degree.

As far as I'm concerned, Carrick's place at the club is untouchable, despite having a disappointing season because he is by far our best midfielder. I don't expect him to be a starting midfielder for us next season, but the fact our midfield will vastly improve should benefit him greatly if we aren't so dependent on him. I don't believe it's the realms of possibility to perform near the standard he set when we won the title.

And with Fletcher, his energy and work-rate has unfortunately diminished due to his illness, but he could still prove more adept than Fellaini for the holding midfield role if partnered correctly. Plus, we could still receive a fee in excess of £10M for Fellaini. Leaving sentimentality out of the equation, Fletcher wouldn't fetch for much. Even just selling Fellaini to recoup some money would be worth it, because our outlay is inevitably going to be sky-high come September.

Which shows how much of a job van gaal has got at the club with the midfield, not to mention how poor Valencia nani young never Zaha actually are.
 
I'm not talking about goals and assists and attacking play. Ground duels and defensive ability. In the seasons prior to playing as a second striker he had adequate numbers to play a paper role as a number six or the deeper midfielder in a 2/3. It seems to just be forgotten and the only time it's 'noteworthy' is when he played as a SS. There is room for debate there.

Definitely, there is only really one way to go. Up, but of course, if we don't see much of an improvement this season (providing he gets opportunity and isn't traded) then we'll have an adequate datasheet in which to get more of an idea of where it went wrong.
Fair enough. Maybe he was much better than I seem to remember. But looking at the level of football intelligence he displays (not even mentioning the lack of technique when doing anything but the basics) I find it hard to believe he was anything more special than I remember. But I do remember a few stand out performances.

RVP debut match I reckon, on paper he was a SS but on the field he played cm a lot.
He played second striker:
 
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Thought Danny Murphy was harsh on him

He did well for them tonight even though he was knackerd

Agreed.

Although funnily enough I think he was more "useful" to his side when he was knackered. In ET, there were 4 or 5 long balls that could have caused problems that he nipped in the bud, plus a good few clearances. It's when he's languidly tracking back from his forward bursts that he causes frustration. He doesn't have the pace or tank to do a full on box-to-box role - it's just too much space for him to cover. But if you sit him either behind a midfield or in front of a midfield, he can cover that space well, offering aerial advantage, pressure and good one-touch-two-touch play.

The main reason Wilmots left him on and took off Hazard was probably exactly for his ability to deal with the inevitable desperation-passes the US were forced to make with so little time remaining.
 
Time to send your CV to Belgian Football Federation then because Wilmots begs to differ it seems.
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Belgium will get off in a match like this but as shown by the games versus City last season - top quality opposition will be less forgiving and will punish his deficiencies in possession and inability to track runners from midfield.
 
He has his uses but he is not my type of player at all and I am still pissed off we spent so much on him.
 
You're completely spot on. Which is why I don't get why his fans seem to get so bothered by the dog's abuse he is getting on here. If he is part of LVG's plans after the World Cup, he will get a bit of support off the back of that.
In theory, you'd think that is how it works. But lets not kid ourselves, plenty here are just here to be seen talking shit about Fellaini. It is what it is. I full expect barely any support to be given to him if he stays on and plays even close to a critical role in the coming season.

Should get a break though if he stays after the World Cup, hopefully he can sort out any fitness issues.
 
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Belgium will get off in a match like this but as shown by the games versus City last season - top quality opposition will be less forgiving and will punish his deficiencies in possession and inability to track runners from midfield.

If they'll have around 30 shots on target of which only 2 will end as goals then they surely will. It won't be down to Fellaini though, it will be down to selfishness of Hazard, Mirallas or Mertens or their inability to score.
 
In theory, you'd think that is how it works. But lets not kid ourselves, plenty here are just here to be seen talking shit about Fellaini. It is what it is. I full expect barely any support to be given to him if he stays on and plays even close to a critical role in the coming season.

Should get a break though if he stays after the World Cup, hopefully he can sort out any fitness issues.

Oh I agree he will still get dog's abuse as I suspect he will still be an average player and the fact that he is the biggest reminder of Moyes will always be held against him. But if LVG backs he will get a bit of support as I said, if only a bit.

I suspect though that he isn't part of LVG's plans and we'll accept a bid after his world cup is over.
 
You mean when Carrick was CB and he was playing off the striker?

He wasn't playing CM that day.
Not sure where he played, but he had a good game both offensively and defensively regardless of where he played.
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Has your account been hacked? I've seen you post this before word for word. Are you just throwing it out there in the hope you'll get a few laughs and some cred?
 
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Belgium will get off in a match like this but as shown by the games versus City last season - top quality opposition will be less forgiving and will punish his deficiencies in possession and inability to track runners from midfield.
why don't we just not play fellaini the 6 games/38 against top quality premiership opposition?

Fellaini should leave the club not because he 'can't play at this level' or whatever, but because the united fans have treated him badly and he deserves better support
 
I'm no fan of the guy but in fairness in that particular game he was causing all sorts of problems for us. Was one of the best individual performances I've seen against us for a long time
It was not only that, but simply making yourself available and bringen the balls to player who do things with it is also a performance IMO. He was everywhere that match.
Yeah it was a great performance, but nothing about it should make somebody want to sign him. Like I said, the Andy Carroll thing is OTT obviously but it applies, we couldn't handle him because his aerial prowess and strength but that's about it.
 
Oh I agree he will still get dog's abuse as I suspect he will still be an average player and the fact that he is the biggest reminder of Moyes will always be held against him. But if LVG backs he will get a bit of support as I said, if only a bit.

I suspect though that he isn't part of LVG's plans and we'll accept a bid after his world cup is over.

Can't stand him cos he was an average player before we even signed him, so it's not even about Moyes. I just don't see what people see in Fellaini and what he can do for our team. If that is Wilmots getting the best out of him then his best will never be good enough for us.
 
Was watching him during the match and this sprung to mind: Moyes on Fellaini "I think he has matured as well. Every time I go and see Belgium, I always come away thinking he is their best player.

He was woeful. He failed to basically retain possession,failed to track midfield runners, couldn't tackle to save his life and kept letting his fullbacks get swamped. I can't see why we need to give him a few months chance under van Gaal. Sorry, but he's got to go quickly.
 
Yeah it was a great performance, but nothing about it should make somebody want to sign him. Like I said, the Andy Carroll thing is OTT obviously but it applies, we couldn't handle him because his aerial prowess and strength but that's about it.

And the problem is, even if that was our reason to buy him, that strength goes missing in the centre of the pitch.

It's one thing being strong as the ball travels towards you in the air at speed, it's another thing to move and turn in different directions and still be strong, or to be strong with the ball at your foot.
 
Should get a break though if he stays after the World Cup, hopefully he can sort out any fitness issues.

No way should Fellaini get a break after the World Cup. Van Persie and Van Gaal aren't taking it. One has been equally knackered if not more so and the other is 60+ years old. Mr. Marouanne should report first day for training in the pre season tour so Louis can make a deliberated assessment of his talents. That way we can start finding prospective buyers come July end if he's deemed surplus to United's needs. Giving him a vacation and leaving it for late in the transfer window in Moyes-esque fashion will only diminish his valuation if the club decides to sell on short notice.
 
Was watching him during the match and this sprung to mind: Moyes on Fellaini "I think he has matured as well. Every time I go and see Belgium, I always come away thinking he is their best player.

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note that we cannot play the same 11 every single game. we need a squad to be fresh. especially if we have europe back in a year
Fair enough but the reason he's so disliked is we spent 30 million on somebody who will never be close to a starting 11 quality player. In midfield, he just doesn't suit a passing game at all. Everyone needs squad players but the vast majority of United fans I'm sure would rather see young midfielders with talent be squad players, or players who have been at United for a while, like Fletcher. He's better on the ball and a more intelligent player, yet many are ready just to get rid of him. Same with Cleverley. You need squad players to give others a break, but we have squad players and most of us like them all more then Fellaini. He's the player version of David Moyes, somebody who just doesn't belong at the club, and it doesn't help him at all that Moyes was the one that brought him here.
 
Can't stand him cos he was an average player before we even signed him, so it's not even about Moyes. I just don't see what people see in Fellaini and what he can do for our team. If that is Wilmots getting the best out of him then his best will never be good enough for us.

Here's hoping Moyes gets that top Champions League job he's talking about and takes Fellaini off us with a nice fee.
 
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