Witsel is extremely weak character.
But in terms of technical skills he does have some upper hand, although not "far more", just more.
Marouane Fellaini | 2013/14 Performances
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But in terms of technical skills he does have some upper hand, although not "far more", just more.
I stand corrected...Fellaini scored the equalizer, not the match winner. The point still stands that he scored off a header late in the match after he was subbed on.
Fellaini is someone who's nice to have on the squad to fill in as a starter against the likes of West Brom and Stoke, when serious central midfielders need a break or are out due to a suspension, but the only time I'd want to see him against top opposition is coming off the bench when we're searching for a goal and have been reduced to lauching crosses.
To answer a question asked earlier in this thread, Moyes had no clue.
Fellaini is someone who's nice to have on the squad to fill in as a starter against the likes of West Brom and Stoke, when serious central midfielders need a break or are out due to a suspension, but the only time I'd want to see him against top opposition is coming off the bench when we're searching for a goal and have been reduced to lauching crosses.
To answer a question asked earlier in this thread, Moyes had no clue.
Giggs vs Wigan 11/12. Abominable.
You were wrong back then and you're wrong again
I don't think that this goal changed anything. We all knew before that he has a good header (if he bothers). However, most of us knew that he isn't a good midfielder for a top team (even for a squad player). Personally I hope that he scores some other headers and then one of the dinosaur managers of EPL bid 15m or so for him.
Why can't everybody just be pleased he played well? It's weird on behalf of the minority. Firstly, it's nothing short of a joke that Dembele, a circus act of a footballer, played ahead of him tonight. Secondly, the people that still continue to pretend as if this guy is only an attacking midfielder, particularly on the basis of this cameo, can only claim to have not watched him play. Fellaini, despite the extreme amount of shit thrown his way over the past year, is a good footballer and, sometimes, very good. Links with the likes of West Ham and Stoke are just nonsense.
The utter gimpery being shown in this thread. Embarrassing stuff.Was a quality header.
Ashley young for 17 million was not a far worse signing than djemba and kleberson combined? even though young is on 120k a week, and cost the club 17 million, what was both the former on? Djemba cost the club a transfer fee of 3 million, yea that is the worst signing ever lol.
Nobody cares. Piss off to some other thread and shit on about Young.
Neither of those players did possibly the weirdest thing ever seen on a football pitch.
Rrrrrrrrrrrrright, don't like my opinion piss off yourself to another thread
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Fellaini is a quality header of the ball. And he's always excellent for Belgium. And its not like they lack midfielders. So there's no reason why he couldnt function in a United side. Moyes just did it wrong.
Belgiums midfield: Hazard, De Bruyne, Witzel, Defour & Fellaini
Uniteds midfield: Carrick, Fletcher, Cleverley & Fellaini
Perhaps the Belgium coach is a tad more clever than Moyes.
Belgiums midfield: Hazard, De Bruyne, Witzel, Defour & Fellaini
Uniteds midfield: Carrick, Fletcher, Cleverley & Fellaini
Perhaps the Belgium coach is a tad more clever than Moyes.
He is just not a CM player, simple has that. Yes he changed the game, but for what united need he still not the player united need. If you want to play a long ball game, he can be effective, but united need to play a much more progressive game
Playing him in the first team and translating that form to club level would be good business. Otherwise it would just be throwing money away. Good business, losing £Xm. Pick one.
You were wrong back then and you're wrong again
I don't think that this goal changed anything. We all knew before that he has a good header (if he bothers). However, most of us knew that he isn't a good midfielder for a top team (even for a squad player). Personally I hope that he scores some other headers and then one of the dinosaur managers of EPL bid 15m or so for him.
Agreed, we need to extract the waist, he is prone to red cards and overall he's just a clumsy player
I pick not losing £Xm which involves selling him for £16m this season rather than £8m next season after another terrible season.
That's good business.
That isn't good business, that is inventing a hypothetical scenario for you to delude yourself that it is good business. Not losing money involves translating his WC form to club level. Which is the only sane thing to do at this point.
We cant just have 1 plan. Like Spain, like Barcelona, we need multiple ways to play. And sometimes long balls will work. And Fellaini can work without long balls. I've seen him make retardedly good runs from the midfield to the 6yard box for Belgium loads of times, so he isnt just a one-sided player.
I wouldnt sell him, and I hope we wont. If he can stop the elbowing of players faces, I'd rather have him on the field than Fletcher.
That is a bit of a myth to be fair to him. While he's definitely prone to yellow cards, he's actually only had one red card in the premier league. Could have had more mind...
You do realise that the United midfield you listed wasn't assembled by Moyes?
Having Fellaini as part of the first team is insanity.
We made a huge mistake last season thanks to Moyes, the only thing left to do now is damage limitation by flogging him for whatever we can get.
You're the only one arguing that he should stay and be given a chance rather than sell him for whatever we can get. So all I can suggest for you now is to get some sleep and get back to training tomorrow, you've got an important game against Russia on Sunday.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you 'Losing the plot', lets all give him a round of applause.
We just need some CM players, I still forget the last time we actually signed a quality one, LOL
That much is obvious.
But only playing him in the exact opposite way he used the same player at Everton just shows at Moyes was never cut out for it.
On another note; I've read 5-6 different player ratings and reviews, and most give Fellaini a high rating, more deserving than just coming in, scoring a header and being a dim-wit like most on this thread seem.
I agree selling him this summer is the best way to get back as much money as possible, we overspent on a player who doesn't solve any problems and doesn't fit into how we play. He scored a good goal today but if he gets any playing time next season as a cm he will struggle and his value will decrease and he will inevitably be loaned out or sold for an even bigger loss. I do expect lvg to move him on at some point, I doubt he has ever had any use for a player like fellaini in midfield.
You dont remember 2006?
The same position Moyes played him in for Everton? Kind of defeats your own point really.
I'll set up a poll, I'm certain the forum will agree with me.
The armchair management branch of the Caf is a brilliant indicator of how the club should conduct it's business. Maybe you can fax it off to the actual people in charge of the club. I am sure this vital piece of gimpnomics data is crucial to Fellaini's future with United.
Ah yes it was that long ago, even when united signed Carrick, not many were a fan.
It shows how long ago maintenance has been on the midfield
So if the general consensus of the Caf is against your opinion, it's because they are the stupid ones? Nice.
I'm not in charge of the club, nor do I claim to be.
I don't think he can work without long balls, that's where his strength is, his best ever performance was in 2012 against us and virtually every good thing he did in the game was as a result of a long ball. You say he is always good for Belgium but he couldn't even get in the team and the reason he looked good today was because they played him in his best position and hit the ball in the air to him a lot. He deserved a good rating for his performance but I don't think today can be used as evidence of why he is a good cm because he didn't play there, all he did today was underline that played behind the striker and with the right service he will cause problems.
If the plan is to keep Fellaini until he justifies the ridiculous fee we paid for him then it's a very bad plan.
Sometimes you have to cut your losses. Keeping Fellaini isn't good business if he simply isn't good enough.
Right now we can't afford to sell him as we are simply too weak in CM but if we strengthen enough then he should certainly be sold. He doesn't fit into this team and will never perform to his best for us.
Sometimes you have to cut your losses. Keeping Fellaini isn't good business if he simply isn't good enough.
Right now we can't afford to sell him as we are simply too weak in CM but if we strengthen enough then he should certainly be sold. He doesn't fit into this team and will never perform to his best for us.
Please, just go and watch the Belgium games on YouTube. There are even some full matches there to watch so you can get over this 'shit on a stick' tag. They don't play this way and he's a contributing factor in the way their team operates.
People just can't get over this 'lump it up to him' stigma when trying to rationalize his quality. It's bizarre.
It's not bizarre it's the truth, I have seen him play loads of times and as a cm he is very ordinary it's only when pushed further forward that he comes into his own, there is nothing wrong with that and it doesn't mean he is shit. I actually think you are the one with the issue because you are desperate to make out fellaini is something he is not when it is blatantly obvious that his best position is behind the striker and his biggest strengths are his chest control and aerial ability.
It's not the truth at all. Again, please go and watch the Belgium games on YouTube. There are plenty there to see the way Belgium play. It is not like this.
The only one who is losing the plot is you with your meltdowns, if anyone dare criticise Fellaini. How dare we come on a forum and have a different opinion to goldenstatesplash. We should all be agreeing with him. If we don't agree with him, we are labelled spoiled arm chair brats.
This makes no sense at all. I have only ever said that I will let the club make the decision and that 'straight up losing money is not good business, lets not try and dress it up that way'. I fail to see where I've melted down. In between people's embarrassingly inaccurate, seeded with hate, cliché assessments of the players footballing ability and calling for him to be shown the door. I think there is plenty of room for reason on the matter.
Deserves praise for his performance today. His goal changed the game for Belgium today and he certainly made an impact when he came on. You can't ask for any more than that.
Thing is though, football isn't played on paper. I don't watch a hell of a lot of Belgium but the best performances I've seen him put in have all been in that sort of role, just off the front man. He is an areal threat and he can hold the ball up. He's got a great touch off his chest and he's a handful for defenders. You could see the two centre halves today were panicking whenever a ball was played wide. His threat and presence alone was causing problems and I suspect he'd cause teams endless problems in that role if he played there on a regular basis.
As a central midfield player though, I just don't see it. He lacks the confidence ability wise in my opinion to play that role. He may have played well there at times for his country but all I care about is how he performs for Manchester United. Perhaps if we used him as more of a box to box midfielder that would change. He's a physical presence who is clearly more comfortable in and around the oppositions box rather that dictating things in midfield.
Thing is though, football isn't played on paper. I don't watch a hell of a lot of Belgium but the best performances I've seen him put in have all been in that sort of role, just off the front man. He is an areal threat and he can hold the ball up. He's got a great touch off his chest and he's a handful for defenders. You could see the two centre halves today were panicking whenever a ball was played wide. His threat and presence alone was causing problems and I suspect he'd cause teams endless problems in that role if he played there on a regular basis.
As a central midfield player though, I just don't see it. He lacks the confidence ability wise in my opinion to play that role. He may have played well there at times for his country but all I care about is how he performs for Manchester United. Perhaps if we used him as more of a box to box midfielder that would change. He's a physical presence who is clearly more comfortable in and around the oppositions box rather that dictating things in midfield.
I'm in full agreement with "Backrow Singer". The question is what do you with such a footballer? Do you settle for bringing him in desperate situations to score off a cross or against weak opponents or do you ship him off to a club he's more comfortable at?
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