Not a Utd player. Never will be.
Marko Arnautovic
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A few of us said the same things about Fellaini before he signed. Hope we dont make another similar mistake.
There has to be some literary term for this. Technically, he will be a United player if we sign him. But as for his quality and this ideal embodiment of the United player, it's hard for me to make such a decisive statement before the guy is given a chance.
Recently, Di Maria and Falcao were signed with rather high profiles and I doubt most questioned the 'united player'. But they both left rather unceremoniously. Id say its fair to question whether they had the United mentality. Or how about Cleverly or C Eagles or Lingard, coming up thru the club itself? I've heard they weren't United quality either. Lingard , despite growing tremendously in the space of the last couple years is unanimously regarded as a squad player looking towards next season..not United quality .
So what is a United player? Seems being from the academy isnt enough nor joining as an established class player. Why can't it be defined by the level of heart and performance once the player puts on our shirt being contractually bound as a United player? I'll go back a few more seasons here and highlight an example:
Alan Smith. Ill be honest and admit i didn't think he was suited for the club, between his previous clubs, temperament and overall quality. He didn't light old Trafford up and I'd say he was in the end, a squad player..but he left with me feeling very much the opposite of when he joined .
If there are truth to the rumours, I actually think he may be the signing of the summer for us and have a cathartic effect on our attack. This clearly is not a signing coming from Ed, this would be Mou all the way. Sort of like Perisic who never came.
Half the people in this thread complain about the price, but I don’t really care if we pay £20, £30, or £50m for him, we can afford it and an extra £20m is irrelevant for a club like ours. If Mourinho wants him, Ed better go out and get him.
Not sure what everyone means with "utd player" or 'utd quality'? the likes of John O'shea won a lot with us , He won more than most player who deemed as 'Utd quality'
Done said similar about Matic.
I think he's way better than some posters in this thread do. I'd have him over Sanchez these days.
It makes sense for one, but not for the other.
Starter for PL champ vs Midtable player
He has been my country's best player for the national team so I would be happy for him - I understand that people aren't too thrilled about signing a 29 year old career midtable player when United are a club with aspiration of making a title challenge and a deep CL run.
You could argue that his mentality has been holding him back, but I think he just doesn't have more than squad player potential for a club like United to be honest.
West Ham doesn't want to sell if you look at the rumored price tag. Had a bad relationship with Jose at Inter too.
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He is not as poor as some are making him out to be. Again, one of those players which can tear you apart on a good day. But he does lack consistency. However, the same can be said about Pogba.
Think he'd pay to move to United. The 50 million quoted is poppycock.
Think he'd pay to move to United. The 50 million quoted is poppycock.
Reminds me of Alan Smith, he turned out decent for a couple of seasons. If he costs relatively low in today's market and scores around 10-15 goals next season, it will be considered good business.
Technically, no one's a United player until they put on the shirt.
Technically, no one's a United player until they put on the shirt.
That's all hell be bought for, a back up to Lukaku.
nothing needs to be added!
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I'm humbled , goodsir
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So, Arnautovic is looking to leave in january, according to reports, for a top premier league club.
I know many of you wouldn’t want him at all this summer, and when I said I thought he would be a great fit for united, I didn’t get much support.
That’s fine though, but I still think he could do a very good job for us, and at the moment we have a real problem in the striker position.
Are you guys still completely against this, or do you like me, think it’s worth a shot?
So, Arnautovic is looking to leave in january, according to reports, for a top premier league club.
I know many of you wouldn’t want him at all this summer, and when I said I thought he would be a great fit for united, I didn’t get much support.
That’s fine though, but I still think he could do a very good job for us, and at the moment we have a real problem in the striker position.
Are you guys still completely against this, or do you like me, think it’s worth a shot?
If we can bring Arnautovic in for a reasonable fee in the january transfer window I feel he would be a very good signing for us.
I thought if we bought him in the summer that Mou was looking for him to replace Lukaku in the starting eleven. He fits Mourinho’s system better because he bullies defenders and fights for the ball.
But no. I’d like to see Mourinho out and for this to never happen.
But no. I’d like to see Mourinho out and for this to never happen.
He wants Champions League. We're safe.
I was open to the idea at the start of the season. Would probably rather have him up too than Lukaku really.
Although I think we need a better player than both of these up top. Just not sure there is a wealth of strikers better available at the minute.
Although I think we need a better player than both of these up top. Just not sure there is a wealth of strikers better available at the minute.
Bravo
I like Arnie, he's nowhere near as bad as people on here claim. My only issue is that he'll be 30 in a few months. We need to be targeting younger players.
I'd take him. His hold up play is very good and is technically decent. For £30-35m would be decent signing.
Even though he's now playing as a striker more than previously, his best ever goals return in a league season is 12 (in 2009). He scored 11 last season and a couple of seasons before that. As anything other than a squad player - and even then I'd be very dubious - he's just going to leave you very short of goals.
What even is this thread.
People rating him better than Lukaku?
The guy has got into double figures a couple of times, and Lukaku has a long history of double that.
If Lukaku is looking average and barely scoring in our system, what makes anyone think this guy will suddenly go the other way?
People rating him better than Lukaku?
The guy has got into double figures a couple of times, and Lukaku has a long history of double that.
If Lukaku is looking average and barely scoring in our system, what makes anyone think this guy will suddenly go the other way?
We've a squad packed with decent players. We need real quality.
Arnautovic has technical ability, Lukaku does not. I am not advocating we buy the Austrian, but I sure as hell know which player Pep, Klopp, Poch and every other top manager would choose. Lukaku has over these two seasons showed a shocking lack of basic ability, his time is up.
Arnautovic basically is the Aldi-version of Zlatan. Why anybody should even consider him is beyond me.
No thanks we don't need another big lump
He's a quality player...
I'd be happy to bolster the squad with him but if we keep bolstering instead of getting top quality we'll find ourselves solidifying this mid-table mess.
We need to stop looking at these players that are a huge level below the squad players at rival clubs.
He’s never set the world on fire and he’s now getting on. Forget it.
He’s never set the world on fire and he’s now getting on. Forget it.
He is more than just a lump. He is tall and strong but very talented and technically good.
Individually he's decent but he's not anything special and wouldn't fit with the type of football we should play. Plus he's 30 soon and we already have another 30 year old in Sanchez so that'll require to replace both after 2/3 years maximum.
Imo the next attacker that comes needs to be an upcoming talent ie Sancho or a Dembele
If our first team had the required quality he'd be a good squad player to bring in. As it stands we need much better than him if we want to compete, we're all ready full of that level of player.
Arnautovic is much better in his all round play. Although he is seen by some here as a bit of a lump, he is very technical and also very quick - unlike Lukaku (as in the Austrian is sharp over a few yards while Rom is quite sluggish, both are fast over longer distances).
I would say he has always had something about him playing in England - an interesting mix of physical and technical attributes without really setting the world alight. His time at West Ham has shown that the issue was his position, and being played as a striker he has proven his quality.
Arnautovic is good enough to play for a top side as a forward. He would be a good signing, but not necessarily needed with both Martial and Sanchez potentially able to provide the requisite quality up front. Lukaku is a bit of a problem. Surely his scoring rate will pick up, but his general ability will always be far from what’s expected of a top striker. Not quite as capable of the moments of magic, Arnautovic is much closer to the likes of Rooney, Van Nistelrooy, Van Persie, Berbatov or Ibrahimovic than Lukaku in his general ability.
West Ham payed a lot of money for him, he’s 30 and probably still on a reasonably long contract. So I’d imagine they will want an extortionate fee for him, and this is therefore a no go.
I’d take him here. He’s quality and will be a good stop gap until we can get a better striker. Arnie and Sanchez can rotate a bit. Lukaku shouldn’t see next season as a United player.
He's a decent player, but he's the type of player I think we have enough of in this squad. I don't think he's an improvement on Lukaku, Rashford, Martial or Sanchez as a no.9 option and even if he is, he's certainly not a big upgrade on any of them
He would fit any style; possession, long balls, high press - he is almost complete. Similar to Firmino but stronger and better with the ball at his feet. I think he's a very good player to have and wouldn't stop us from signing young players. Wouldn't mind signing him and getting rid of Sanchez. I think he is good enough for a top club in terms of skill and talent.
Man, he's being bigged up in this thread. He's a decent player nothing more and a level below where we should be looking.
Right now Ill take anyone who can give Lukaku and Alexis actual competition at CF and who can temporarily solve our right wing crisis. I dont give a fig if they are not world class. I just want them competent
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