Marko Arnautović | United have pulled out

Why? Which youngsters?

I hate this argument "just throw in the youngsters". From a footballing perspective, at least Arnautovic brings in PL predigree. Even at his age he could make 33 league appearances last season. I think he's a player that can bury a couple of Rashford chances v Brighton.

I think we need to take a step back and ask 1) is there any top talented young striker who is available for us, and 2) Does Arnautovic bring dependable performances as a striker for a reasonable fee.

It needs to be that simple at this stage. There is so much complexity surrounding us - Ronaldo, FdJ, the left back conundrum, etc. I think a very simple solution for this season at least would be beneficial for us. Ten Hag if I'm not mistaken got a fair bit of stick for buying Haller, he didn't give a toss and Haller hit 20+ goals didn't he?

This is a back up player we are signing not a first team player. Currently we have Martial and Ronaldo. Rashford could play up top with Elanga playing out wide. Garnacho who is involved in the first team squad and has looked promising in pre season could also play either out wide or up top.

Yes he is PL proven but at which point do you stop going for him when Bologna want more money for a 33 year old and the fee becomes beyond reasonable.
 
This is a back up player we are signing not a first team player. Currently we have Martial and Ronaldo. Rashford could play up top with Elanga playing out wide. Garnacho who is involved in the first team squad and has looked promising in pre season could also play either out wide or up top.

Yes he is PL proven but at which point do you stop going for him when Bologna want more money for a 33 year old.
Elanga is trash, and I hope he ends up being better but he 100% needs a loan out to a relegation fighting PL club or a Championship club.
Rashford as a CF is trash, he himself has said he doesn't like playing centrally.
Ronaldo wants out, so we have to prepare for his exit if a bid comes along.
Garnacho looks like he has a lot of potential but is not proven whatsoever. Would be daft to hang our hat on him like we did with Elanga and hope he can step up.
 
Elanga is trash, and I hope he ends up being better but he 100% needs a loan out to a relegation fighting PL club or a Championship club.
Rashford as a CF is trash, he himself has said he doesn't like playing centrally.
Ronaldo wants out, so we have to prepare for his exit if a bid comes along.
Garnacho looks like he has a lot of potential but is not proven whatsoever. Would be daft to hang our hat on him like we did with Elanga and hope he can step up.

There is also Amad, Pellistri etc. If Ronaldo is going and its a big if as no one wants him then it would make sense but essentially he will be 3rd choice if not and with the bad PR it is bringing by his past behaviour, its not worth it.
 
There is also Amad, Pellistri etc. If Ronaldo is going and its a big if as no one wants him then it would make sense but essentially he will be 3rd choice if not and with the bad PR it is bringing by his past behaviour, its not worth it.
Honestly any club can point to bodies. None of the players you named can be depended on in the league. Amad couldn't even have a consistent pre-season let alone find the bench on match day.

As I said, no one dependable is in the market it seems, so we have to trust Ten Hag on his solutions.

What annoys me is our slow start to the summer costing us Antony and maybe others.
 
Here’s hoping.

Knowing our stupidity we’d panic and end up coughing up £30million for him.

Drown me now.
The moment we pay a two digit million fee for this past it racist, we should dissolve the club

Always liked Brighton anyway
 
Elanga is trash, and I hope he ends up being better but he 100% needs a loan out to a relegation fighting PL club or a Championship club.
Rashford as a CF is trash, he himself has said he doesn't like playing centrally.
Ronaldo wants out, so we have to prepare for his exit if a bid comes along.
Garnacho looks like he has a lot of potential but is not proven whatsoever. Would be daft to hang our hat on him like we did with Elanga and hope he can step up.
If Ronaldo is going out you can bet your arse we'll be replacing him with a player that is a hell of a lot better than Arnautovic.
 
Honestly any club can point to bodies. None of the players you named can be depended on in the league. Amad couldn't even have a consistent pre-season let alone find the bench on match day.

As I said, no one dependable is in the market it seems, so we have to trust Ten Hag on his solutions.

What annoys me is our slow start to the summer costing us Antony and maybe others.

Would have put a bid in for Jonathan David myself earlier in the window. I believe it was the price which meant we didn't go for Antony.
 
The only plus is he's experienced and maybe coming off the bench could be OK I'm not a fan of him at all at West Ham his attitude stank, he's 33 or so. Plus side he's an aggressive front man can bully defenders and Can hold the ball up . Cheap 2 year deal maybe.
Imo if this gets done it's because there waiting to find out how the Greenwood situation pans out. It can't go on forever
 
Ten Hag - We need the RIGHT Players. Is this where this great club is at. Why can't we bring in Milinkovic Savic. We have spent the whole summer chasing a dead horse in De Jong.
 
There is also Amad, Pellistri etc. If Ronaldo is going and its a big if as no one wants him then it would make sense but essentially he will be 3rd choice if not and with the bad PR it is bringing by his past behaviour, its not worth it.


I am certainly not saying Arnautovic is the right player , but it is clear that ETH is looking for an option with a bit more physicality , as Rangnick pointed out numerous times we are lacking in this area. And the likes of Amad , Pelliistri bring nothing in this regard.
 
The only plus is he's experienced and maybe coming off the bench could be OK I'm not a fan of him at all at West Ham his attitude stank, he's 33 or so. Plus side he's an aggressive front man can bully defenders and Can hold the ball up . Cheap 2 year deal maybe.
Imo if this gets done it's because there waiting to find out how the Greenwood situation pans out. It can't go on forever

no chance greenwood comes back.. not after the voice recordings and pictures.
 
The only plus is he's experienced and maybe coming off the bench could be OK I'm not a fan of him at all at West Ham his attitude stank, he's 33 or so. Plus side he's an aggressive front man can bully defenders and Can hold the ball up . Cheap 2 year deal maybe.
Imo if this gets done it's because there waiting to find out how the Greenwood situation pans out. It can't go on forever
Never happening.
 
Here’s hoping.

Knowing our stupidity we’d panic and end up coughing up £30million for him.

Drown me now.

Bologna are unable to find a player like Arnautovic for 10/12 million. So they want much more money, I think at least the double
 
This is a back up player we are signing not a first team player. Currently we have Martial and Ronaldo. Rashford could play up top with Elanga playing out wide. Garnacho who is involved in the first team squad and has looked promising in pre season could also play either out wide or up top.

Yes he is PL proven but at which point do you stop going for him when Bologna want more money for a 33 year old and the fee becomes beyond reasonable.
He wants a striker who can hold the ball up and is a physical presence up top. Rashford quite literally refuses to jump for headers. From a footballing perspective it really isn’t hard to work out why it makes sense - he’s a cheap, experienced, proven PL striker happy to be on the bench who offers something entirely different to anything else we have.
 
Not that this was my point, but no one was signing Sesko this summer apart from a RB club
We knew all the forwards that were out of contract and were moving on since the start of year or even longer. Surely we should have been looking at this, and have someone ready to come in.We also knew for some time that we need a proper DM. It seems to be getting worse for this great club every season now.
 
This racist has no place in United.

Everybody was talking about the new transfer strategy and now we could end up with panic buys of Arnautovic and Rabiot which could not be more wrong players for us.

Absolutely nothing changed except maybe for the worse.

Just wonder if it is ETH requesting these players after failing to sign de Jong or the old people still making the wrong choices.
 
There is also Amad, Pellistri etc. If Ronaldo is going and its a big if as no one wants him then it would make sense but essentially he will be 3rd choice if not and with the bad PR it is bringing by his past behaviour, its not worth it.

The guys you mentioned would be killed by the CBs in the league. They are nowhere near the level needed yet. Some are seriously underrating Arnautovic on here. The guy is strong as an ox and good technically. Too old now and injury prone but leagues ahead of the likes of Pellistri yet.
 
The board really need to take the pressure of ETH this season. Forget top four. Forget top six. Forget any type of trophy.

Build a solid foundation with the players we've got. Only buy world class players or young players we can develop.
 
What’s the main issue with signing him? Character, age, talent, or opportunity cost of not signing someone better?

He’s old, he’s not good enough and above all else he’s a fecking racist.
 
why the feck are we still in this guy

Disgusting if true.

I will fully back ETH this season, even if we finish outside the top 4. But if this transfer is being pushed by him rather than be a Glazer money saving exercise then serious questions need to be raised as to his suitability for deciding on transfer targets.