Marko Arnautović | United have pulled out

Wake up Erik this is not eredivisie our competition signed haaland, nunez and jesus and we sign this westham reject
 
If all we want is a big Austrian to bring off the bench in the latter stages of games to win all the duels, I'd much rather we sign Kalajdzic or Gregoritsch. Both younger than Arnautovic, both better in the air than Arnautovic and both work harder defensively than him. Also, to my knowledge, neither of them are racist cnuts.
 
Time to fire Murtough and remove ETH from any say in transfer targets if both think Arnautovic is a good signing.

This is actually bonkers and criminal.
 
Not one positive comment regarding this in the media. Literally every single fan, journalist and football commentator is calling this out for the bullshit decision it is.
 
Edwards6 said:
Good job Greenwood doesn't play for Arsenal, they would of just carried on playing him and hope everyone forgets
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What done the perception of Greenwood was the video/audio evidence was quite damming , a lot of people have made their minds up on him regardless of the court(if there is any) outcome.

If there was no video/audio his career could also still be alive today.
 
We did made a bid. We always do. We're always preparing bid(s). The real question is did we submit it or not?
 
Chairman Woodie said:
No quality player is cheap in the transfer market these days. I would prefer United to pay good money for a top young striker than signing thirty something year olds almost every season.
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Osimhen? Quality player? Are you having a laugh? He's scored as many goals in the league as Arnautovic and he plays in a team that actually creates chances for him, as opposed to Arnautovic. And no, I don't rate Arnautovic at all.
 
Stunned that we're still pushing ahead with a player banned for racism. At first I assumed it was just the usual negligence from the club in doing their research. Now it's just compliance. Disgusting.
 
This isn't going to happen.

What was the racist thing(s?) he said/did and why was it racist anyway? I heard he was insulting Albanians after scoring a goal but didn't read into why/how.
 
Loony BoB said:
If Ronaldo is going out you can bet your arse we'll be replacing him with a player that is a hell of a lot better than Arnautovic.
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We might well be - but Arnautovic as a squad option isn't a bad shout at all.
 
It’s a sad reality but I think the fans need to realize that United at the moment is not a attractive prospect for high level players. Their are the couple that will come of course but United is not the first choice option for a lot of guys.

This current state of United reminds me of when Liverpool were signing Joe Allen, Stewart Downing, Jose Enrique and such while having Ngog at striker.

Arnautović for what United current level is, all things considered is an ok signing. You don’t have the ability to attract elite players right now and Arnautović could probably still put in some better performances and a better shift then the likes of Anthony Martial.

United have a long way to go to come back and personably if I was United I would attach the marker and season one a different manner.

- Promote the biggest talents in the club and give them a run on the bench and the very best ones at first team I.E Garnacho, Garner etc

- Sign talented Young players who might be interested to join a big name and a club with less pressure to win (atm)

- Buy some veteran players that can guide the youth, guys like Christian Erickson fit that role perfectly

- keep some veteran or core pieces that can be of value on the squad, I.E David De Gea.

Rebuild the club the correct way!
 
Mickeza said:
“The UEFA Appeals Body has decided to suspend Austrian Football Association player, Marko Arnautovic, for the next (1) UEFA representative team competition match for which he would be otherwise eligible, for insulting another player”

If it was deemed discriminatory he would have got a 10 match ban.
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Come on man really? He has been accused of it 4 times and UEFA banned him for doing it. The only reason he got one match is because its extremely hard to prove because of witnesses. It's clear he is a racist.
 
Bondi77 said:
"literally thinking"
What does that mean?
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I don't think we need to have a grammar discussion or an argument about the misuse of the word "literally" here. But to answer your question - I was simply underlining the fact that I had the exact same thought.
 
SportingCP96 said:
It’s a sad reality but I think the fans need to realize that United at the moment is not a attractive prospect for high level players. Their are the couple that will come of course but United is not the first choice option for a lot of guys.

This current state of United reminds me of when Liverpool were signing Joe Allen, Stewart Downing, Jose Enrique and such while having Ngog at striker.

Arnautović for what United current level is, all things considered is an ok signing. You don’t have the ability to attract elite players right now and Arnautović could probably still put in some better performances and a better shift then the likes of Anthony Martial.

United have a long way to go to come back and personably if I was United I would attach the marker and season one a different manner.

- Promote the biggest talents in the club and give them a run on the bench and the very best ones at first team I.E Garnacho, Garner etc

- Sign talented Young players who might be interested to join a big name and a club with less pressure to win (atm)

- Buy some veteran players that can guide the youth, guys like Christian Erickson fit that role perfectly

- keep some veteran or core pieces that can be of value on the squad, I.E David De Gea.

Rebuild the club the correct way!
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Pretty much nail on the head there mate.

We are far from an attractive proposition, however while you mention Eriksen who's character has never been in question and then spin to this guy who has a ton of red flags these are not the same thing.

We need to just ignore this player there is surely another veteran forward we can get who has good quality with none of the issues this guy represents if we are to guide the young players.

or we need to just go with the young players and endure until we can build back up better.

I do fear the longer the malaise goes on with players and the media we become even less attractive to the right players, i dont think we are quite at the bottom of this cycle yet and in the coming weeks, months and potentially years could get very very ugly
 
Gavinb33 said:
Pretty much nail on the head there mate.

We are far from an attractive proposition, however while you mention Eriksen who's character has never been in question and then spin to this guy who has a ton of red flags these are not the same thing.

We need to just ignore this player there is surely another veteran forward we can get who has good quality with none of the issues this guy represents if we are to guide the young players.

or we need to just go with the young players and endure until we can build back up better.

I do fear the longer the malaise goes on with players and the media we become even less attractive to the right players, i dont think we are quite at the bottom of this cycle yet and in the coming weeks, months and potentially years could get very very ugly
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The longer United avoid a long term correction as I stated above the worse it will get.

United at the moment are in no man’s land. Not good enough to compete for any major trophies but not bad enough to where they will be fully avoiding Europe all together.

Also by going for a full rebuild as I stated above the fans Will get behind the club and the young guys because the expectations will be lower.

United are in a serious possibility of going on a 30 year drought ala Liverpool and the owners and even some fans are too stubborn to realize that and think United are still competing with the elite clubs of the world.

As I’ve always said, it all starts from the top and it does not matter who you bring in, it will stay the same.

Everyone laughs but what Mourinho said years ago bears truer and truer every single day.
 
Just one more thing to add, I watched him a bit in the Nations league and he seemed not very fit. Not as explosive and strong as he was at times, so I think his decline is in full force.
 
ForeverRed1 said:
no chance greenwood comes back.. not after the voice recordings and pictures.
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If that's it then UTD just sack him now, instead of paying his wages . They cannot do anything until he's convicted of anything so far he's still on bail no court hearings issued no trial etc as far as I'm aware , can you see UTD just leave him go for nothing!
 
conspiracy theory time: I could see a scenario in which our board was fully aware of Arnautovic's racism but still went in for him because he was mentioned by ETH, so if by december the results are really poor, they have the option to start feeding the press bad rep about ETH in order to distance themselves from him in the eventuality of his sacking. Something like: "he insisted on his own targets, didnt care about scout recomendations" (this line was actually trotted out as early as this week!) or something like "the board confronted ETH about the controversy regarding Arnautovic but ETH insisted on singning the racist striker" ... like they did with Rangnick about his alleged forgetfullness and him being out of depth and not well liked etc.
 
dedek_mraz said:
conspiracy theory time: I could see a scenario in which our board was fully aware of Arnautovic's racism but still went in for him because he was mentioned by ETH, so if by december the results are really poor, they have the option to start feeding the press bad rep about ETH to prepare for his sacking "he insisted on his own targets, didnt care about scout recomendations" (this line was actually trotted out as early as this week!) or something like "the board confronted ETH about the controversy regarding Arnautovic but ETH insisted on singning the racist striker" ... like they did with Rangnick about his alleged forgetfullness and him being out of depth and not well liked etc.
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If they confronted him about it and let it happen, they are just as invested as ETH is. There is a line that can be drawn while still giving ETH the lead on who we sign.
 
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