Mark Ogden

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United's trusted mouth piece.

Good journalist as far as I am concerned and someone worth listening to during what will be a long and hopefully exciting summer. I wonder who has been briefing him.
 
He was first to brake Fergie's retirement but I remember him also saying after in a interview that he took a bit of a gamble with it and hoped he had the right lead.

So I wouldn't say he's United's mouth piece but he certainly knows people inside club that are willing to leak information.
 
United's trusted mouth piece.

Good journalist as far as I am concerned and someone worth listening to during what will be a long and hopefully exciting summer. I wonder who has been briefing him.
He was on Talksport earlier speaking to Stan Collymore and he said he couldn't take full credit for the story. He said it was a joint effort by some of the Manchester-based journalists. Seems strange to me.
 
Certainly one of the more reliable journalist covering United, plus if the SAF story was a gamble it shows he has good instincts too.

I always thought Daniel Taylor was the club's mouthpiece though, he seems to have an inside track with the execs.

James Ducker is reliable too, I think. Generally I pay attention to anything those three say.
 
Certainly one of the more reliable journalist covering United, plus if the SAF story was a gamble it shows he has good instincts too.

I always thought Daniel Taylor was the club's mouthpiece though, he seems to have an inside track with the execs.

James Ducker is reliable too, I think. Generally I pay attention to anything those three say.
Pretty much that, if those three are reporting something at the same time, you can take it to be the truth.
 
He was on Talksport earlier speaking to Stan Collymore and he said he couldn't take full credit for the story. He said it was a joint effort by some of the Manchester-based journalists. Seems strange to me.

Yeah that's interesting.

I'd imagine there is some sort of leverage for the information. Some lenient coverage perhaps, a kind angle for stories in the future. Who knows, time will tell.
 
I always find the idea of journalists having 'inside sources' a bit odd.

It then means that there are people within the club who are betraying the confidence of the club and the board and/or who are in the pockets of the journos, otherwise they wouldn't find it out really until the official statements.

Surely the club would want to try to find the blabber-mouths and cut them out, rather than accepting them as part of the business of football.

On the other hand, it could be a Malcolm Tucker-esque leak on purpose so as to unsettle the manager, etc.
 
I always find the idea of journalists having 'inside sources' a bit odd.

It then means that there are people within the club who are betraying the confidence of the club and the board and/or who are in the pockets of the journos, otherwise they wouldn't find it out really until the official statements.

Surely the club would want to try to find the blabber-mouths and cut them out, rather than accepting them as part of the business of football.

On the other hand, it could be a Malcolm Tucker-esque leak on purpose so as to unsettle the manager, etc.
You gotta have influence on the papers, mate. From inside the club, you gotta have someone who can publish something for you, leak stories to get better deals, among many other things, but they won't do it just for the sake of it.
 
I always find the idea of journalists having 'inside sources' a bit odd.

It then means that there are people within the club who are betraying the confidence of the club and the board and/or who are in the pockets of the journos, otherwise they wouldn't find it out really until the official statements.

Surely the club would want to try to find the blabber-mouths and cut them out, rather than accepting them as part of the business of football.

On the other hand, it could be a Malcolm Tucker-esque leak on purpose so as to unsettle the manager, etc.

It's a lot more complex than betraying the club in these cases.

Ferdinand betrayed the club by leaking the team. This was club officials leaking it for a particular reason.

Just speculating, but I wonder if it was leaked because they wanted to gauge public and fan reaction.

Leak that he is getting sacked, get a true idea of how fans will react after very mixed messages thanks to out commendable home and away support.
 
You gotta have influence on the papers, mate. From inside the club, you gotta have someone who can publish something for you, leak stories to get better deals, among many other things, but they won't do it just for the sake of it.
It's a lot more complex than betraying the club in these cases.

Ferdinand betrayed the club by leaking the team. This was club officials leaking it for a particular reason.

Just speculating, but I wonder if it was leaked because they wanted to gauge public and fan reaction.

Leak that he is getting sacked, get a true idea of how fans will react after very mixed messages thanks to out commendable home and away support.

I guess it is the shady underside of football club management that we don't really know about. The promise of inside information also gives us a little bit of leverage over the journos too, so I guess it works both ways. It probably is the same in politics too.
 
He was on Talksport earlier speaking to Stan Collymore and he said he couldn't take full credit for the story. He said it was a joint effort by some of the Manchester-based journalists. Seems strange to me.
I remember saying months ago that him, Ducker and Ladyman probably write their articles in the same room and send them off to their respective employers. They publish the exact same story within minutes of each other consistently.
 
I think Ogden, Taylor, and Ducker (in that order) are the most reliable three when it comes to United matters.
 
I remember saying months ago that him, Ducker and Ladyman probably write their articles in the same room and send them off to their respective employers. They publish the exact same story within minutes of each other consistently.
They're all fairly high-profile so it seems to work for them but I thought the football journalism business would be more ruthless than that. Guys desperate to be the one person to break stories and all that.
 
Can someone cover this Ferdinand leaking teams? Where is the proof? Or are people adding 2+2 and getting 5.
 
Can someone cover this Ferdinand leaking teams? Where is the proof? Or are people adding 2+2 and getting 5.
It's Ferdinand. Andy Mitten implied as much in one of his ESPN articles which I'm not able to link at the moment.
 
Mark Ogden is one of the nerdiest journalists I've ver met. The guy lives and breathes football. Met him in London for a journalists conference and the first thing I asked him was: "How did you get the Fergie retirement call right?"

He said: "I had three leads and when you don't get a text message reply from your top management sources, you know it's real."

In this case, yet again, top management has been completely mum and that means game over for Moyes.

Remember the last time, after the Liverpool loss, everyone was saying he's getting the sack? THere were multiple pundits across the media saying Moyes needs time. This time.....

Ogden's a solid journalist. Most trusted United source I'd say.
 
He completely misjudged the matter of Klopp's availability though. Just yesterday he published an article where he appeared to be very confident, that money and United's name could lure him to Old Trafford.
 
Throughout much of Moyes' tenure the media have rather disgrace themselves, however Ogden was one of a very few to pointedly criticise the manager some months ago and that has to be to his credit IMO.
 
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He was first to brake Fergie's retirement but I remember him also saying after in a interview that he took a bit of a gamble with it and hoped he had the right lead.

So I wouldn't say he's United's mouth piece but he certainly knows people inside club that are willing to leak information.

Wish he did brake Fergies retirement
 
Daniel Taylor is good but his love in with City and Mancini probably made us reluctant to use him so much.
 
Ogden seems a decent guy too. Not big headed despite the fact he gets many scoops.
 
He very much knows football and he very much has contacts at United.

Very good combination for a United journalist to have.
 
His latest article:

Sir Alex Ferguson will be consulted over David Moyes’s successor at Manchester United, with Carlo Ancelotti leading a three-man shortlist of candidates to become the new manager at Old Trafford.

With Bayern Munich coach Pep Guardiola and Borussia Dortmund’s Jürgen Klopp ruling themselves out of contention for the position within hours of confirmation of Moyes’s dismissal on Tuesday, United remain determined to recruit a proven manager with experience of winning major trophies.

Ryan Giggs, who has been appointed interim manager for the final four games of this season, will not be considered as a permanent successor to Moyes, but the 40-year-old is regarded as having a role to play under whoever is handed the job at United.

Real Madrid coach Ancelotti is understood to be the favoured candidate among senior figures at Old Trafford, however, with Holland coach Louis van Gaal and Atlético Madrid’s rising star Diego Simeone making up United’s hit-list.

Telegraph
 
If Simeone can't speak English and looks like a pornstar, he's not the next United manager - regardless of whether he wants it or not.

Ancelotti would be brilliant but they won't sack him this year regardless of what happens over the next 4 weeks - they lack replacement options too.

It's going to be LvG.
 
Ancelotti? Got to feel for him if he swaps managing Ronaldo and Bale for Young and Valencia.
 
L'Equipe claimed at the beginning of the season Ancelotti had originally being offered the United job but turned it down.
 
If Simeone can't speak English and looks like a pornstar, he's not the next United manager - regardless of whether he wants it or not.

Ancelotti would be brilliant but they won't sack him this year regardless of what happens over the next 4 weeks - they lack replacement options too.

It's going to be LvG.

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Daniel Taylor is good but his love in with City and Mancini probably made us reluctant to use him so much.

He was banned from the Press conferences at United for something like seven year by Fergie. He wrote a book on Fergie and Fergie did not like it.

Taylor probably isn't as well connected as Mitten or Ogden but he only runs with solid stories. He is a good journalist.

I think that Mitten has the broadest range of connections at OT and gives unique insights but he tends to sit on the fence. I am not that keen on his writing style either.

It appears that Ogden is the man who the club are using to break the stories that they don't want to bang straight on the official site.
 
So the short list is Ancelotti, Van Gaal and Simeone according to Ogden.

Ancelotti would be my choice.

Van Gaal i like but he does seem like a nutter.

I haven't watched Atletico too much what i have watched they don't seem to play the most attractive football. But his job results wise is very impressive in the 3 years hes been there.

Can anyone who watches them regularly give me an idea of their style of play?
 
Ancelotti and Van Gaal are very good, solid managers with a good pedigree and a proven ability to be successful in different leagues. Simeone probably resents the only wow! appointment on the list based on his age and the impact on Atletico but he might be considered a bit green at this stage.
 
Ancelotti is probably the safest choice out there for us on all levels now.

English speaking: Check
EPL Experience: League and FA Cup Winner
UCL Experience: Twice Winner
Personality: Strong but not controversial
Style: Adaptable, has used various tactics at different clubs and made them work
 
Yeah Woody and the rest of the suits appear to be clamoring for Ancelotti as he appears to be a stable, safe option with a proven track record of transfer purchases as well as trophy winning pedigree. They clearly want some calm after the calamity of Moyes. van Gaal might be great but at the same time he might do something stupid like sexually assault Ashley Young at half time to prove a point.
 
Ducker is quite reliable, too. Here's his latest piece on the fall-out between management and playing staff during Moyes' reign:



Can you post the article if its alright under cafe rules? It seems interesting but seems to be pay-walled.