Neither.
Mario Mandzukic or Arnautovic
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I'd take Arnautovic if choosing between these two. He'd be more of a gamble for sure, but when given the option of player A who's seen and done it all before, and player B who hasn't I'd always choose player B...all other qualities being equal of course. Arnautovic strikes me as a player who's developed late and realised he only has a few short years left in the game. He looked focused and driven this season - I watched a lot of West Ham having spent a good chunk of the year down that way, and I was rarely unimpressed.
Obviously he could show up here and just take the money - that's the risk. With Mandzukic I think we'd get what we expect - unexceptional professionalism and know-how. I just have a feeling a focused and fired up Arnautovic could actually challenge Lukaku for a place in team... But who knows. He's never scored many goals, and has only recently started playing up front proper. He's a cnut though - we could use some of that.
Obviously he could show up here and just take the money - that's the risk. With Mandzukic I think we'd get what we expect - unexceptional professionalism and know-how. I just have a feeling a focused and fired up Arnautovic could actually challenge Lukaku for a place in team... But who knows. He's never scored many goals, and has only recently started playing up front proper. He's a cnut though - we could use some of that.
Mertens turned down Barcelona a couple of seasons ago and Vardy turned down Arsenal. I have absolutely no idea why people think these 2 prefer money over playing when they’ve clearly preferred the latter in the past. Also why would we pay 150-200k a week for a backup striker?
In that case give Westham Rashford and get Arnautovic.
Then lets sign john terry, patrice evra and for midfield, lets say ronaldinho. Great players, won everything, etc....
So Mandzukic who has won leagues in Germany and Italy and won the CL with Bayern is a Everton level player? What exactly does that make Lukaku he hasn't won anything and we signed him from Everton
I would definitely enjoy that kind of thing.
Yes, because they all currently play for a team as good as Juv, jeez
More importantly, how the feck did you get promoted, one of the mods must have been slacking off that day..
Then how come his performance levels have been so low for so much of his career? His attitude has clearly impacted him adversely thus far. So much so that even Mourinho once said that he had the mentality of a child.
Now he may or may not have finally gotten past that. But it's a common mistake to paint everyone with 'character' (usually meaning loud, impatent and outspoken) as being a 'winner'.
I base that on what I saw of him at West Ham which is a lot. Rest of his career I’ve not followed as closely. I can safely come to the conclusion having seen the strops and what he produced in terms of output and level of performance.
Mandzukic is a big game player. He scored in the 2013 final, scored an amazing goal in the 2018 final, and scored a brace against Madrid in the nearly impossible comeback. He has a winning mentality that United’s squad lacks IMO.
What are you talking about this ‘lack winning mentality’? We have Matic, Pogba, DDG, Valencia, Sanchez, Mata who’ve won important trophies.
Neither?
They aren't an upgrade on Lukaku. Nor are they the kind of striker who would want to play second fiddle to Lukaku. So unless we are planning to play two up top, i don't see this adding much value to our goal scoring abilities. What we need are more goals from the midfield and wings.
Never really liked Arnautovic in any case. Too brash for United according to me. Ex-Stoke and West Ham...what are we - thugs?
They aren't an upgrade on Lukaku. Nor are they the kind of striker who would want to play second fiddle to Lukaku. So unless we are planning to play two up top, i don't see this adding much value to our goal scoring abilities. What we need are more goals from the midfield and wings.
Never really liked Arnautovic in any case. Too brash for United according to me. Ex-Stoke and West Ham...what are we - thugs?
Well. In some/most games, I felt like watching an expensive Stoke. So..
We are looking for a back up striker to Lukaku not an upgrade.
We do not want to buy a young striker as they would cost too much and further decrease the opportunities for Rashford and Martial.
Mandzukic plays as a back up striker at Juve, why wouldn't he want to be a back up striker here?
My vote goes to Mandzukic he's got CL experience.
Always kind of liked Arnautovic as a player. He has matured rather late, has a bit of Zlatan/Berbatov to his game and is the kind of player I could see rising to the challenge if he got a shot at the highest level now. Often looks way too good for West Ham.
At the least he would probably be a very influential impact sub.
That said, I don't think we need either, unless we see Arnautovic as a right-winger.
At the least he would probably be a very influential impact sub.
That said, I don't think we need either, unless we see Arnautovic as a right-winger.
I wouldhavd given a lot to have him over Lewandowski against Madrid...he would never have let himself down like that. Mentality monster, always has been. And way better technically than people give him credit for.
Martial isn't a striker. It's an abomination to play him in that position; same way it was a disaster when we played Di Maria up top.
And if you agree that a young player would cost Rashford games, then surely Mandzukic or Arnautovic would cost him even more games.
I say we groom Rash into being a top drawer striker (as always should have been the case), second to Lukaku for another season if needed. And instead we strengthen along the touch line - RW, RB, LB.
The spine of our team is amazing - Bailly, Smalling, Matic, Pogba, Lukaku.
Great reply. So who does not agree with you , that guy is not good poster. Is your opinion here holly truth?
Mandzukic is not good player anymore. If we are buying backup for no9, it would be logical to buy a player who is goalscorer. He is not that anymore.
Neither Martial nor Rashford are ready yet and so when Lukaku gets injured we do not have anyone to lead the line.You saw how bad he was in the FA Cup final.
Also buying a striker who is in his 30s for cheap would mean Rash and Martial can step up in two or three years by which the position would be up for grabs.
Remember when people were turning their noses at this. Mandzukic is ten times the player Lukaku is. Our attack with him would actually have some focal point. Someone even saying he isn’t a upgrade on Lukaku. I would drive Lukaku to Turin as he seems to dream of playing for Juve and get Mandzukic in return.
They wouldn't help, we are shite and players that arrive at the club turn to shite.
They’d be struggling just as much as every attacker in our team does under this manager.
If you going to play long balls then Mandzukic would be a better fit than Lukaku because he can control a ball. If you going to just cross it again Mandzukic is a lot more aggressive in his play than Lukaku. He’d also be a better foil for Martial and Rashford to play off. We have a striker who can’t control a ball hence why we cannot attack.
It doesn´t matter who comes, they turn to shit the moment they start to play at this environment..
Jose would stick with Lukaku anyway, there's very little evidence to suggest otherwise.
Pretty much the last sentence. He can’t judge the flight of the ball either, so playing up to him is impossible also.