Mario Balotelli

I know the definition of heavily linked.

The point here is that most articles are copying information from one another, which means nothing. The other day we were "heavily linked" with Sneijder, complete with quotes from Robben saying he thinks he will end up at OT. Today - not so much. There are only two possible states a story can be in - transfer speculation or confirmation from both clubs and player that the transfer has been completed. Heavily linked is a meaningless effing term.

Heavily linked doesn't mean it's true, but it means the rumor is gathering pace. It's stops being only "linked" if it gets confirmed by any of the involved parties, then it becomes real interest. I've never said there's real interest in him, we'll have to wait and see. But you needed to bite.
 
Self-Confidence?
Arrogance?
Strong Willed?
Single Minded?
Ambitious?

You could argue that they are needed to become one of the better players in world football.

I've seen him an handful of times and he's always looked sharp and looks like a very good prospect. The money involved doesn't make much difference to me but I think £30m is a reasonable amount given his age and qualities.

I know we're led to believe he's got attitude problems but under Sir Alex and a change of scenery not to mention he'll be maturing naturally as a person I don't really see that as a problem.

I'd be excited should he arrive anyway!
 
At the end of the day, it might be true it might not be. It probably appeals to Sir Alex. The kids strong, young, quick, talented, a bit hot headed :) - something he can mold. The papers haven't say it so I might as well. Kiko would probably end up their on loan with an option to buy.
 
29 million is 15 million too high, especially for someone whom the club seem like they want to sell.

I think 20-22m is a very good price for one of the biggest talents around. Hell, even if we overpay per usual, I don't really care about the money. As I said, if he develops to his full potential at OT, it will have been well worth it.
 
Daniel Taylor (guardian) reckons it is agent pap and not real.

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Daniel Taylor at the Guardian is a complete tool. This has no relation to this thread as I have no idea whats actually going on with the transfer but I would take what he says with a wheelbarrow full of salt.

He's one of those journalists well known for fabrication of certain "facts" with phrases like "Ferguson was furious with *enter name here* after the game and he could be out in the summer".

He comes out with this sort of shite on a constant basis. Ginger tosser.
 
mind you i wont be too surprised if he joins chelsea after ancellotti's remarks about him seeing balotelli at united.
It's the same script used by harry redknapp with joe cole.
I suspect that while dealing with cole s agent, the agent mentioned that united offered x amount of money. Redknapp knowing its not true, then went public about it, forcing united to deny their interest. Doing so, cole's agent lost the 'united wild card'. The same thing happened to Sneijder's agent.
This is what i am assuming of course, but these things happen in football.
 
apparently he was late to his first Rafa training today, and then buggered off early.

Ferguson would kill the little fecker.

Rafa probably had them all sitting in a circle with name tags telling fachts about themselves.
 
apparently he was late to his first Rafa training today, and then buggered off early.

Ferguson would kill the little fecker.
It's because of those damn racists I tell ya, Ballotelli that poor thing was probably fighting them off in the morning, poor poor boy.
Rafa probably had them all sitting in a circle with name tags telling fachts about themselves.

So you don't see the problem with a player turning up late for the first training session his new manager is going to take and then leaving early? Mario can do no wrong in some people's eyes.

FFS people stop citing Cantona, just because it paid off with that one player, doesn't mean it's going to be the same with Ballotelli, is it a £30 mill+ gamble people want to take, especially given our finances?
 
Maybe he told Benitez he's off to United and that really got him pissed off :lol:
 
To be honest I would be hard pushed to motivate myself for a Benitez training session.
 
It's because of those damn racists I tell ya, Ballotelli that poor thing was probably fighting them off in the morning, poor poor boy.


So you don't see the problem with a player turning up late for the first training session his new manager is going to take and then leaving early? Mario can do no wrong in some people's eyes.

FFS people stop citing Cantona, just because it paid off with that one player, doesn't mean it's going to be the same with Ballotelli, is it a £30 mill+ gamble people want to take, especially given our finances?

Arriving late is not on imo. I would like to know more about that though. Why was he late - was it cause he couldn't be arsed insuring he was on time, or could it be because he had other Inter/Football related stuff that held him up (physio or something).

As for leaving early. I have not read that he did. I read he was first to leave. Someone has to be and if he was simply first out the door after training was finished - so what?
 
It's because of those damn racists I tell ya, Ballotelli that poor thing was probably fighting them off in the morning, poor poor boy.


So you don't see the problem with a player turning up late for the first training session his new manager is going to take and then leaving early? Mario can do no wrong in some people's eyes.

FFS people stop citing Cantona, just because it paid off with that one player, doesn't mean it's going to be the same with Ballotelli, is it a £30 mill+ gamble people want to take, especially given our finances?

Yes.
 
It's because of those damn racists I tell ya, Ballotelli that poor thing was probably fighting them off in the morning, poor poor boy.


So you don't see the problem with a player turning up late for the first training session his new manager is going to take and then leaving early? Mario can do no wrong in some people's eyes.

FFS people stop citing Cantona, just because it paid off with that one player, doesn't mean it's going to be the same with Ballotelli, is it a £30 mill+ gamble people want to take, especially given our finances?

FFS maybe it will? If we went for him it'd be because Sir Alex believes he can handle it. It's just an 'example' to get past the fact he's troubled. Is that hard to work out?

Rooney was a gamble. He was hot headed. Maybe not as much as Mario but you deal with it and Sir Alex is the type of manager who has no problems using psychology to get into the head of his players
 
It's because of those damn racists I tell ya, Ballotelli that poor thing was probably fighting them off in the morning, poor poor boy.


So you don't see the problem with a player turning up late for the first training session his new manager is going to take and then leaving early? Mario can do no wrong in some people's eyes.

FFS people stop citing Cantona, just because it paid off with that one player, doesn't mean it's going to be the same with Ballotelli, is it a £30 mill+ gamble people want to take, especially given our finances?

It was a joke!

Anyway, how the feck do you know any of what happened. Quick to judge that it was down to him being a cnut aren't you?

Firstly, he was "7 minutes late" apparantly. I'm not making excuses for him but "7 minutes"? There's nothing about him being in trouble for being late, maybe there was a genuine reason he was, perhaps he had been at a meeting with Moratti, perhaps traffic was bad.

Could be any number of things but no doubt the media that were camped out side of the training groud waiting for his arrival got no other story so they try to turn it into something. Seriously, what sort of story is "he was 7 minutes late and left first".

Then he was the first to leave, theres nothing about him leaving early and even if he did? Why read between the lines that it's obviously because he lacks respect when it could be for a million reasons. Slight injury? Permission to leave quickly and quietly to avoid the cretins that report this sort of stuff?


Just have a think about what you are actually saying here. You found out that he was late and left early and you have once again torn his character apart.

You see what he is up against?
 
FFS maybe it will? If we went for him it'd be because Sir Alex believes he can handle it. It's just an 'example' to get past the fact he's troubled. Is that hard to work out?

Given the fact that SAF is struggling to get Anderson's partying antics and bad work ethic under control, I doubt he's going to have more success with someone as arrogant as Ballotelli. Not a good omen that Mourinho gave up on him as well (don't tell me SAF>>>>>>>>Mourinho, Mourinho's a damn good man manager too). As someone else mentioned, Cantona was older and more mature and realised that he had to do the work to reach his potential. Ballotelli doesn't look even close to doing that.
 
It was a joke!

Anyway, how the feck do you know any of what happened. Quick to judge that it was down to him being a cnut aren't you?

Firstly, he was "7 minutes late" apparantly. I'm not making excuses for him but "7 minutes"? There's nothing about him being in trouble for being late, maybe there was a genuine reason he was, perhaps he had been at a meeting with Moratti, perhaps traffic was bad.

Could be any number of things but no doubt the media that were camped out side of the training groud waiting for his arrival got no other story so they try to turn it into something. Seriously, what sort of story is "he was 7 minutes late and left first".

Then he was the first to leave, theres nothing about him leaving early and even if he did? Why read between the lines that it's obviously because he lacks respect when it could be for a million reasons. Slight injury? Permission to leave quickly and quietly to avoid the cretins that report this sort of stuff?


Just have a think about what you are actually saying here. You found out that he was late and left early and you have once again torn his character apart.

You see what he is up against?

Care to tell me why he refused to do a pre match warm up in the champions league final? He's 19 and he already thinks he can throw a stunt like that. He wasn't injured either, ITV confirmed it and called him a "silly" boy.
 
L'estate bollente di Mino Raiola. Il procuratore tratta Ibra e Balotelli

Its basically states that Riola had already met United officials. That both United and the lesser club of Manchester are interested in him but the latter are more interested in Ibra, making United favorites for the deal. That Balotelli would love to play with us and that he had yet to register with AIC which while not being an absolutely certainity that he is leaving it does gives hints that he is leaving. Rioula is also hoping that Barca, Real and AC Milan will be interested in the boy.
 
Given the fact that SAF is struggling to get Anderson's partying antics and bad work ethic under control, I doubt he's going to have more success with someone as arrogant as Ballotelli. Not a good omen that Mourinho gave up on him as well (don't tell me SAF>>>>>>>>Mourinho, Mourinho's a damn good man manager too). As someone else mentioned, Cantona was older and more mature and realised that he had to do the work to reach his potential. Ballotelli doesn't look even close to doing that.

Who said Sir Alex is struggling with Anderson? (don't particularly pay attention to the press and media) Not everyone is mature at 19 (mario). The kid would find it easier in England and Sir Alex preaches modesty which would help as would the closeness of the group. Did Jose sell Mario? How did he give up on a 19 year old? He just didn't play him.

Cantona - who in his prime karate kicked an 'aggressive' fan? Makes Mario look like a wannabe.
 
Given the fact that SAF is struggling to get Anderson's partying antics and bad work ethic under control, I doubt he's going to have more success with someone as arrogant as Ballotelli. Not a good omen that Mourinho gave up on him as well (don't tell me SAF>>>>>>>>Mourinho, Mourinho's a damn good man manager too). As someone else mentioned, Cantona was older and more mature and realised that he had to do the work to reach his potential. Ballotelli doesn't look even close to doing that.

Where on earth do you get this stuff from?
 
I must have imagine Anderson going off to Brazil without SAF's approval. In the middle of a season.

Devil find the quote where Sir Alex said he didn't give him permission and then you have to even wonder if it's genuine....the media lie everyday. You have to take things with a pinch of salt. We were rumored to be selling him etc - it's all bullshit. If your not playing, for whatever reason, rumors will start and even if your playing. We can't win.
 
Devil find the quote where Sir Alex said he didn't give him permission and then you have to even wonder if it's genuine....

You honestly think SAF would come out and say "one of the youngest players in my squad decided to go awol when he felt like it?". How did SAF describe Nani being disciplined? Ahh yes, "he's got an injury". SAF would never admit to the media if a player's gone AWOL, because they'd question his authority and have a field day with it.
 
You honestly think SAF would come out and say "one of the youngest players in my squad decided to go awol when he felt like it?". How did SAF describe Nani being disciplined? Ahh yes, "he's got an injury". SAF would never admit to the media if a player's gone AWOL, because they'd question his authority and have a field day with it.

You need to stop believeing everything you read and listening to the conspiracy theories.

You really think a United player could just bugger off to Brazil without permission, then swan back in a few weeks later and feature in the first team? :lol:
 
You need to stop believeing everything you read and listening to the conspiracy theories.

You really think a United player could just bugger off to Brazil without permission, then come back a few weeks later and feature in the first team? :lol:
Fair enough, could you please answer my question regarding Ballotelli which you've seemed to have dodged?

Care to tell me why he refused to do a pre match warm up in the champions league final? He's 19 and he already thinks he can throw a stunt like that. He wasn't injured either, ITV confirmed it and called him a "silly" boy.

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You honestly think SAF would come out and say "one of the youngest players in my squad decided to go awol when he felt like it?". How did SAF describe Nani being disciplined? Ahh yes, "he's got an injury". SAF would never admit to the media if a player's gone AWOL, because they'd question his authority and have a field day with it.

Devil the anderson talks a non story. How do you know Nani didn't have an injury? Yes we keep things in house but you don't know at the end of the day and it's wrong to jump to conclusions.
 

Care to tell me where you have heard this story from?

He was starting on the bench, perhaps he felt it better preparation to warm up during the game and at half time rather than go cold sitting in the stands for an hour or so.

Do you have cutouts from The Sun and Marca on your wall or something?
 
Macheda, Welbeck, Diouf, Hernandez, Berbatov, Owen, Rooney.....Balotelli?

Wouldn't this be a bit too much? And even so, Rooney will probably score twice as much as the rest combined.
 
Macheda, Welbeck, Diouf, Hernandez, Berbatov, Owen, Rooney.....Balotelli?

Wouldn't this be a bit too much? And even so, Rooney will probably score twice as much as the rest combined.

It's all hypothetical of course, but I don't think Balotelli would be competing for the same position as most if not all of those you mentioned. He'd be more likely, at first anyway, to be seen as an alternative to Nani or Valencia on the wings of a front 3...