He would arguably do Arsenal more damage than good just like Sancho.
Marcus Rashford (out)
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Do Arsenal even need him / or would play him regularly? Don't they they have Martinelli and Trossard on the left?
it's simple math mate
there's a wage liability of ~45m
so all the numbers you're throwing around you need to add on roughly 30m to that deal (the liability minus what someone is actually willing to pay him per week (I'd guess 150k tops)
I've never posted that source before.
Now I just want to post that meme of the banana doge, and I feel dead inside.
TBF I'm not fully ignoring it. That's why I quoted that price but as he's shown even in bad form that he'll score and assist at an okay level.No fecking chance we're going to get that and how can you just ignore 3/4 of the last 2 years?
Sounds like something Dyche would say!
Wages are our responsibility while he is in the club. When he wants to leave (and lets not forget that HE was the one who said that he wants a new challenge) then it is another game.
Player wants to leave and we should "cover" his wages? Not a chance.
this just isn't true, unfortunately
It’s shite being Scottish so I understand
It's a unique situation that can't really be compared to "normal" transfers. Obviously it's a very low price, but if that's the best offer than what is better? Taking the low fee and getting his wages off our books, or keeping him and having him do absolutely feck all while being the top earner at the club. We'd have to consider it and honestly I would probably take it. He is of zero use to us now and unless he has a huge change of heart and attitude I don't really see that changing
I meant in a general "that's quite a questionable source" way.
It's better than nothing and I'm not having a go at you, I'm having a go at the people who take it as gospel!
The main win here is getting those wages off the books, none of those players were on even half of what Rashford earns. You have to look at the bigger picture.
Needs to leave and we don’t even need to replace him straight away seeing as he hasn’t played for us for several games.
Use the money to and get Alvaro back and we’ll instantly have a better team.
Use the money to and get Alvaro back and we’ll instantly have a better team.
McTominay earned less than half the wage. Maybe even 1/3
Then what happens if he plays shite for 6 months?
Unless we agree to heavily subsidize his wages, or he agrees to a reduction, any buying club will be committing to probably well over £50m in wages alone. It’s a huge financial commitment for a player with significant question marks surrounding him.
So I don’t think we can expect much of a transfer fee unless we agree to subsidize his wages.
So I don’t think we can expect much of a transfer fee unless we agree to subsidize his wages.
You'd have to be very ignorant about the economics of football to think we will ever be in a position to get more then £20-30m for Rashford. Even if he goes and scores 20 goals on loan over the second half of the season.
The most likely scenario if he goes on loan this winter, by far, is we will get to July and still no one will want him other than for a subsidised loan deal in 25/26.
The most likely scenario if he goes on loan this winter, by far, is we will get to July and still no one will want him other than for a subsidised loan deal in 25/26.
£40 Million would be the very upper limit in that scenario IMO.
Teams will look at him in the summer being a handful of months away from being 28 and be like no thanks...
The only way a team will offer £30m+ for him I think is if he tells them he's willing to take a shorter contract, on less terms than he's on now. Like if he was willing to accept a 3 year £250k a week deal.
But he wont accept that, because money is obviously more important to him than football.
This summer we either we end up with a very similar deal that we had for Sancho, season loan with ~£20m obligation to buy. Or we get a higher transfer fee that gets cancelled out by us having to pay him compensation. Similar to what might have happened if Maguire had gone to West Ham.
McTominay isn't as accomplished as Rashford and only had 1 year left on his contract. No other club would sell a player who has scored 140 goals and is only 27 for 20M. Arsenal sold Balogun for £34M. Let's stop.
We are only 1-2 injuries away from Rashford being needed in the squad. It's not like we have incredible depth.
We cant sell one of our few sellable players for nothing. Send him on loan and let him raise his value if there is no market for him and sell him in the summer. Completely pointless to sell to another PL club for 20M.
All good. But his desire is also to go in separate way. So, why should we only take a hit in this deal?
He wants to play regulary, go on World cup and shit? Fine. Then lower your wage demands for 150k and we will lower transfer fee for 10 mil.
Selling him for £20 Million isn't nothing, is it?
Rashford is a liability, not an asset. His wages make him borderline unsellable which you don't seem to understand.
Arsenal sold Balogun for £25m and he was earning £35k a week at the time.
This shit isn't complicated. Getting £20m and rid of Rashford's wages this summer would be a fecking miracle for the club.
Balogun was also what 21/22?Arsenal sold Balogun for £25m and he was earning £35k a week at the time.
This shit isn't complicated. Getting £20m and rid of Rashford's wages this summer would be a fecking miracle for the club.
I think so too, however, getting his wages off the books must be a consideration as much as a transfer fee.
Fair to say most fans would be happy with a 30 million sale?
Yep, 30m which will be pure profit and saving 17/18m in wages. It would be a total of approx 45-50m difference.
Due to the way PSR works, selling him for 30m showing 100% profit and wage saving, we could buy a minimum of 2 players with that.
£30m and off abroad would be the best for all concerned. I don't want to see him go to Arsenal or Chelsea and tear it up. And you know he'd be a Welbeck type cnut who would always score against us.
Would be more like £60-70 Million
Balogun wasn't costing nearly 1.4m per month though was he?
If it’s not PL, we aren’t getting 30 million, or even all of his wages paid.
It doesn’t really matter, because whatever type of player he is for Arsenal, he was never going to be for us.
We need to think about what that money and wage saving does for us and how it could make us a better team.
He said that at 27 he is entering his peak and feels hes at his best right now or something along those lines. Based on that, I assume he has something left in the tank for clubs like Westham.
He's hardly sellable though is he? No ones interested because of his massive wages.
I’m personally not bothered about him going to Arsenal if that happens. The rivalry between the two clubs is still there but it died down dramatically after the invincibles era and we bought RvP from them.
Also, I think he will do well for a time and people will post on here that we should not have sold him and that it was all EtH’s or Amorim’s fault etc. but after a while he’ll revert to being a patchy player. He’ll probably annoy Arsenal fans as well so that would be funny too.
If it's so cheap where are the clubs lining up to snap him?
You're missing the point sorry. His wages are the biggest issue in selling him. If he chose to play for free we'd probably get 50m for him.
The ideal scenario would be sending Rashford plus cash to Napoli in exchange for Kvara. But its unlikely they would entertain such a deal. Realistically if we could secure £20 million and offload his massive wages from our books it would be a coup. At this point, I would be open to selling him to any club whether in the Premier League or abroad. Keeping him around next season isnt an option we can afford either financially or in terms of squad dynamics.
Wonder if Milan are planning yo use him as a centre forward given they have leao
Christ I hope it’s an obligation rather than an option to buy if that’s the case
Why is there never actually any transfer information in these threads in the transfer forum?