Marcus Rashford (out) | signs for Villa on loan

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How’s that relevant? If Rashford wants to move which he does, he knows full well he ain’t getting the same wages at any other club in Europe.

do you think his desire to play is worth more to him than an extra 10m a year?

I don't
 
They can’t even keep their current players. Aren’t they in some kind of money crisis?
Yes for the last few seasons at least. Maybe theyl offload soon? I couldn't care less as long as they take Rashford.
 
Yes for the last few seasons at least. Maybe theyl offload soon? I couldn't care less as long as they take Rashford.
Rashford probably ends up at Milan. I think Dortmund would be the right club to choose though. Players usually shine there
 
Say a club would pay him £150k pw.
He’s currently on what? £300k just for the sake of argument.
For a further 3 years that means the shortfall for rashford is 52 x 150000 x 3 =23,400,000
You can knock that off any transfer fee we receive as it will go straight to him unless he’s willing to accept a pay cut which I don’t think he will.
Taking that into account I think £30m is the best we can hope for right now.
A loan might be better in the hope that he plays well and his value increases.
I dunno neither option seems great but we have painted ourselves into this particular corner.
 
The posters saying we can’t get more than £21 mil because of his wages here. He’s not garunteed those wages at his next club is he? And if he wants to continue playing football and have his new challenge then that could mean on lower wages. Or just stay here on the bench or dropped from squad. So the selling price should be a lot more than £20mil.
Or am I being stupid
I think you're 'being stupid.' Footballers will always claim how much they want to play but rarely do they ever actually take pay cuts. Especially significant ones.
 
I think you're 'being stupid.' Footballers will always claim how much they want to play but rarely do they ever actually take pay cuts. Especially significant ones.
Zlatan has perfectly valid point. After being benched next 3 years (on 350k), his value will drop dramatically. So, with the age of 30, he will be in position to choose between middle table clubs and salary demands around 50k.

But, if he moves now (or summer) he can demand 150k, play regulary and maintain his value.
 
Zlatan has perfectly valid point. After being benched next 3 years (on 350k), his value will drop dramatically. So, with the age of 30, he will be in position to choose between middle table clubs and salary demands around 50k.

But, if he moves now (or summer) he can demand 150k, play regulary and maintain his value.
Correct. It he can get a five year deal on a reduced but decent salary, it makes sense for him financially, in the long term
 
Correct. It he can get a five year deal on a reduced but decent salary, it makes sense for him financially, in the long term
Depends what you call a decent salary, say 150K a week as has been suggested, that would be a 7 year deal to equal his existing contract
 
Depends what you call a decent salary, say 150K a week as has been suggested, that would be a 7 year deal to equal his existing contract
I mentioned earlier that his salary could be reduced anyway due to a lack of champions league football. It’s previously been reported that means a reduction of 25%. If true, that puts his base salary at £225k per week.
 
Would be interested to know how much of his wages would be based on appearances, goals, CL qualification, etc., maybe his wage here if he was told he wouldn't play for the club again could be substantially less
 
Say a club would pay him £150k pw.
He’s currently on what? £300k just for the sake of argument.
For a further 3 years that means the shortfall for rashford is 52 x 150000 x 3 =23,400,000
You can knock that off any transfer fee we receive as it will go straight to him unless he’s willing to accept a pay cut which I don’t think he will.
Taking that into account I think £30m is the best we can hope for right now.
A loan might be better in the hope that he plays well and his value increases.
I dunno neither option seems great but we have painted ourselves into this particular corner.
Purley is a nice area. I knew you'd be a rational guy that throws numbers into it. You and your big land.
 
The posters saying we can’t get more than £21 mil because of his wages here. He’s not garunteed those wages at his next club is he? And if he wants to continue playing football and have his new challenge then that could mean on lower wages. Or just stay here on the bench or dropped from squad. So the selling price should be a lot more than £20mil.
Or am I being stupid
If he doesn't get a similar wage from any club making bids then he doesn't sign for them, we are stuck with him and his wages. So you lower the fee to cover the excess wages the buying club will pay. It's all about the overall package. You can pay 50 mil for a player up front with a 5 year contract at 10 mil a year and your at 50 mil in wages, 50 mil fee + 50 mil wages = 100 mil package. Or if he is currently on 15 mil a season and wants that going forward, 15 mil x 5 seasons = 75 mil in wages, so to maintain the 100 mil over all package the 50 mil price tag becomes 25 mil. 75 mil wages + 25 mil fee = 100 mil package.
 
I have no idea what you’re talking about. There have been plenty of examples where a player has taken a slightly lower wage on a longer contract, because it makes financial sense. What part of that do you disagree with?

when you said it would make sense for him financially it doesn't because the numbers are not close to adding up

his market value is comfortably less than 50% of his current wage so extending his contract from 3.5 years to 5 years doesn't make up the shortfall

and that's before you consider there's more chance of him pivoting to a career in the NBA than someone giving him a 5 year deal at this point
 
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Zlatan has perfectly valid point. After being benched next 3 years (on 350k), his value will drop dramatically. So, with the age of 30, he will be in position to choose between middle table clubs and salary demands around 50k.

But, if he moves now (or summer) he can demand 150k, play regulary and maintain his value.
I don't think he'll take a big pay cut. I can't think of any examples of players his age taking a huge pay cut. Can you?

On the other hand, I can think of many players (even just at utd) sitting on their contracts and not playing.
 
From what I have read, Barca would be able to register Rashford and the Dani Olmo transfer was a unique situation.
 
The benefit is that taking a punt on Rashford for £150k a week is more palatable than paying him £300k a week.
Chances of getting him for 150K are pretty slim I'd say, they'd be far better off taking a punt on an actual striker IMO - but I don't care about Arsenal so it's no skin off my nose!
 
Chances of getting him for 150K are pretty slim I'd say, they'd be far better off taking a punt on an actual striker IMO - but I don't care about Arsenal so it's no skin off my nose!
I agree that it would be unlikely to get him in on £150k a week and that's why I wouldn't want my hypothetical team to go near him.
 
Barcelona again? How?

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i would love to see him at Barca. They play counter attack and live off moments, dont they. Rashy absorbs instructions like a sponge
 
Are bidding wars even a thing anymore? I hope this generates some competition among the clubs - though it sounds more like an opportunistic signing than filling a gap.
For Milan he plays in the same position as Leao, I don't see him displacing Raphina/Yamal combinations at Barcelona, Unsure how he suits a Motta system at Juventus and I think Dortmund just want a 6 month run at a free asset with no real intention to buy.
 
This reminds me of the Ronaldo situation where he was pimped out across Europe only to land in Saudi Arabia. Yikes.
The parallels are there — it’s his agency who is the one shopping him around and pushing for talks with desirable clubs like Milan, Dortmund, Barcelona etc. and then there’s such a stark contrast with clubs like Como, West Ham, and Monaco making unprompted offers for him.

Are we seeing a case of “what Rashford wants” vs “which clubs actually want Rashford”?
 
when you said it would make sense for him financially it doesn't because the numbers are not close to adding up

his market value is comfortably less than 50% of his current wage so extending his contract from 3.5 years to 5 years doesn't make up the shortfall

and that's before you consider there's more chance of him pivoting to a career in the NBA than someone giving him a 5 year deal at this point
That’s all just speculation and opinion, and has nothing to do with mathematics.
 
The parallels are there — it’s his agency who is the one shopping him around and pushing for talks with desirable clubs like Milan, Dortmund, Barcelona etc. and then there’s such a stark contrast with clubs like Como, West Ham, and Monaco making unprompted offers for him.

Are we seeing a case of “what Rashford wants” vs “which clubs actually want Rashford”?

Yeah. Very much looks it, doesn't it?

This is what happens when you surround yourself with people who won't be honest with you.

Before pressing the button on that Henry Winter piece Rashford's camp should have been sure of a desirable escape route. They didn't believe they had to be. They thought as soon as word got out that their guy was available all the greats would come running.

I'm embarrassed for the kid, I genuinely am.
 
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