Marcus Rashford (out) | signs for Villa on loan

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No fecking chance we're going to get that and how can you just ignore 3/4 of the last 2 years? :lol:
Sounds like something Dyche would say!
TBF I'm not fully ignoring it. That's why I quoted that price but as he's shown even in bad form that he'll score and assist at an okay level.
 
the wages are the clubs responsibility

we've been in this position a bunch of times and players very very rarely take much of a pay-cut

the ones that do are motivated and hungry to succeed

so yeah... Rashford isn't gonna help us out one bit. He's already in decline. If he doesn't get the same pay he's going no where
Wages are our responsibility while he is in the club. When he wants to leave (and lets not forget that HE was the one who said that he wants a new challenge) then it is another game.

Player wants to leave and we should "cover" his wages? Not a chance.
 
Wages are our responsibility while he is in the club. When he wants to leave (and lets not forget that HE was the one who said that he wants a new challenge) then it is another game.

Player wants to leave and we should "cover" his wages? Not a chance.

this just isn't true, unfortunately
 
Some of you here are in complete delusion. 21 mil is absolute bonkers for player of his reputation, age, ability and stats.
Lets look a little only Arsenal transfers (because they sent this ridiculous bid).
They sold fecking bench warmers Nketiah and Rowe for 30 mil euros. They signed players like Merino and Viera for 35 mil.
Liverpool sold complete dross like Berg and Carvalho for 23 mil. City bought one trick pony Doku for 60 for who Rashford looks like Robben.

And you are happy with 21 mil for player like Rashford? 21 mil these days can't buy you Undav or Fulkrug, ffs.

It's a unique situation that can't really be compared to "normal" transfers. Obviously it's a very low price, but if that's the best offer than what is better? Taking the low fee and getting his wages off our books, or keeping him and having him do absolutely feck all while being the top earner at the club. We'd have to consider it and honestly I would probably take it. He is of zero use to us now and unless he has a huge change of heart and attitude I don't really see that changing
 
I've never posted that source before.
I meant in a general "that's quite a questionable source" way.

It's better than nothing and I'm not having a go at you, I'm having a go at the people who take it as gospel!
 
Some of you here are in complete delusion. 21 mil is absolute bonkers for player of his reputation, age, ability and stats.
Lets look a little only Arsenal transfers (because they sent this ridiculous bid).
They sold fecking bench warmers Nketiah and Rowe for 30 mil euros. They signed players like Merino and Viera for 35 mil.
Liverpool sold complete dross like Berg and Carvalho for 23 mil. City bought one trick pony Doku for 60 for who Rashford looks like Robben.

And you are happy with 21 mil for player like Rashford? 21 mil these days can't buy you Undav or Fulkrug, ffs.

The main win here is getting those wages off the books, none of those players were on even half of what Rashford earns. You have to look at the bigger picture.
 
Needs to leave and we don’t even need to replace him straight away seeing as he hasn’t played for us for several games.

Use the money to and get Alvaro back and we’ll instantly have a better team.
 
He is worth more than £21M. We sold McTominay for £25M. People are allowing their hatred for him influence their thinking. Less accomplished players who are prospects go for significantly more than 21M. We certainly can't replace him for that fee. That's a slap in the face.
McTominay earned less than half the wage. Maybe even 1/3
 
No. Then we send him out on loan with an obligation or with option and hope he performs over the next 6 months to raise his value.

We can't complain about not having funds for transfers and just give players away. We need to be better at selling.
Then what happens if he plays shite for 6 months?
 
Unless we agree to heavily subsidize his wages, or he agrees to a reduction, any buying club will be committing to probably well over £50m in wages alone. It’s a huge financial commitment for a player with significant question marks surrounding him.

So I don’t think we can expect much of a transfer fee unless we agree to subsidize his wages.
 
You'd have to be very ignorant about the economics of football to think we will ever be in a position to get more then £20-30m for Rashford. Even if he goes and scores 20 goals on loan over the second half of the season.
£40 Million would be the very upper limit in that scenario IMO.

Teams will look at him in the summer being a handful of months away from being 28 and be like no thanks...
 
McTominay earned less than half the wage. Maybe even 1/3
McTominay isn't as accomplished as Rashford and only had 1 year left on his contract. No other club would sell a player who has scored 140 goals and is only 27 for 20M. Arsenal sold Balogun for £34M. Let's stop.

We are only 1-2 injuries away from Rashford being needed in the squad. It's not like we have incredible depth.

We cant sell one of our few sellable players for nothing. Send him on loan and let him raise his value if there is no market for him and sell him in the summer. Completely pointless to sell to another PL club for 20M.
 
The main win here is getting those wages off the books, none of those players were on even half of what Rashford earns. You have to look at the bigger picture.
All good. But his desire is also to go in separate way. So, why should we only take a hit in this deal?
He wants to play regulary, go on World cup and shit? Fine. Then lower your wage demands for 150k and we will lower transfer fee for 10 mil.
 
McTominay isn't as accomplished as Rashford and only had 1 year left on his contract. No other club would sell a player who has scored 140 goals and is only 27 for 20M. Arsenal sold Balogun for £34M. Let's stop.

We are only 1-2 injuries away from Rashford being needed in the squad. It's not like we have incredible depth.

We cant sell one of our few sellable players for nothing. Send him on loan and let him raise his value if there is no market for him and sell him in the summer. Completely pointless to sell to another PL club for 20M.
Selling him for £20 Million isn't nothing, is it?

Rashford is a liability, not an asset. His wages make him borderline unsellable which you don't seem to understand.
 
Arsenal sold Balogun for £25m and he was earning £35k a week at the time. :lol:

This shit isn't complicated. Getting £20m and rid of Rashford's wages this summer would be a fecking miracle for the club.
Balogun was also what 21/22?
 
He’s worth more than 21m. Peoples dislike of him is clouding the reality of the situation.
I think so too, however, getting his wages off the books must be a consideration as much as a transfer fee.

Fair to say most fans would be happy with a 30 million sale?
 
I think so too, however, getting his wages off the books must be a consideration as much as a transfer fee.

Fair to say most fans would be happy with a 30 million sale?

Yep, 30m which will be pure profit and saving 17/18m in wages. It would be a total of approx 45-50m difference.

Due to the way PSR works, selling him for 30m showing 100% profit and wage saving, we could buy a minimum of 2 players with that.
 
I think so too, however, getting his wages off the books must be a consideration as much as a transfer fee.

Fair to say most fans would be happy with a 30 million sale?
£30m and off abroad would be the best for all concerned. I don't want to see him go to Arsenal or Chelsea and tear it up. And you know he'd be a Welbeck type cnut who would always score against us.
 
Yep, 30m which will be pure profit and saving 17/18m in wages. It would be a total of approx 45-50m difference.

Due to the way PSR works, selling him for 30m showing 100% profit and wage saving, we could buy a minimum of 2 players with that.
Would be more like £60-70 Million
 
McTominay isn't as accomplished as Rashford and only had 1 year left on his contract. No other club would sell a player who has scored 140 goals and is only 27 for 20M. Arsenal sold Balogun for £34M. Let's stop.

We are only 1-2 injuries away from Rashford being needed in the squad. It's not like we have incredible depth.

We cant sell one of our few sellable players for nothing. Send him on loan and let him raise his value if there is no market for him and sell him in the summer. Completely pointless to sell to another PL club for 20M.
Balogun wasn't costing nearly 1.4m per month though was he?
 
£30m and off abroad would be the best for all concerned. I don't want to see him go to Arsenal or Chelsea and tear it up. And you know he'd be a Welbeck type cnut who would always score against us.

If it’s not PL, we aren’t getting 30 million, or even all of his wages paid.

It doesn’t really matter, because whatever type of player he is for Arsenal, he was never going to be for us.

We need to think about what that money and wage saving does for us and how it could make us a better team.
 
I'm honestly not sure what his level is these past two and a half years. Certainly not of a PL footballer. Even West Ham wide men will be expected to beat his man now and again, and put in a shift work-rate wise.
He said that at 27 he is entering his peak and feels hes at his best right now or something along those lines. Based on that, I assume he has something left in the tank for clubs like Westham.
 
McTominay isn't as accomplished as Rashford and only had 1 year left on his contract. No other club would sell a player who has scored 140 goals and is only 27 for 20M. Arsenal sold Balogun for £34M. Let's stop.

We are only 1-2 injuries away from Rashford being needed in the squad. It's not like we have incredible depth.

We cant sell one of our few sellable players for nothing. Send him on loan and let him raise his value if there is no market for him and sell him in the summer. Completely pointless to sell to another PL club for 20M.

He's hardly sellable though is he? No ones interested because of his massive wages.
 
£30m and off abroad would be the best for all concerned. I don't want to see him go to Arsenal or Chelsea and tear it up. And you know he'd be a Welbeck type cnut who would always score against us.
I’m personally not bothered about him going to Arsenal if that happens. The rivalry between the two clubs is still there but it died down dramatically after the invincibles era and we bought RvP from them.

Also, I think he will do well for a time and people will post on here that we should not have sold him and that it was all EtH’s or Amorim’s fault etc. but after a while he’ll revert to being a patchy player. He’ll probably annoy Arsenal fans as well so that would be funny too.
 
He is worth more than £21M. We sold McTominay for £25M. People are allowing their hatred for him influence their thinking. Less accomplished players who are prospects go for significantly more than 21M. We certainly can't replace him for that fee. That's a slap in the face.

If it's so cheap where are the clubs lining up to snap him?
 
He is worth more than £21M. We sold McTominay for £25M. People are allowing their hatred for him influence their thinking. Less accomplished players who are prospects go for significantly more than 21M. We certainly can't replace him for that fee. That's a slap in the face.
You're missing the point sorry. His wages are the biggest issue in selling him. If he chose to play for free we'd probably get 50m for him.
 
The ideal scenario would be sending Rashford plus cash to Napoli in exchange for Kvara. But its unlikely they would entertain such a deal. Realistically if we could secure £20 million and offload his massive wages from our books it would be a coup. At this point, I would be open to selling him to any club whether in the Premier League or abroad. Keeping him around next season isnt an option we can afford either financially or in terms of squad dynamics.
 
Wonder if Milan are planning yo use him as a centre forward given they have leao
 
Wonder if Milan are planning yo use him as a centre forward given they have leao
Christ I hope it’s an obligation rather than an option to buy if that’s the case
 
Why is there never actually any transfer information in these threads in the transfer forum?
 
If it's so cheap where are the clubs lining up to snap him?

They are lining up, but if they could get him for cheaper, or try him out on a loan first and de-risk it, why not?

We’ve given off enough desperate vibes here and the situation is clear. Clubs don’t have to come with their best offer, at least not in the first 10 days of the transfer window.
 
If he goes to Arsenal who would he replace from the first team? Because unlike us, other clubs wouldnt be paying that kind of wages for a subtitute player or a bench warmer. Hes behind Saka, Martinelli, and maybe even Trossard for wide positions.. and CF isnt his preferred position (not that he can displace Jesus and Havertz anyway).
 
He’s worth more than 21m. Peoples dislike of him is clouding the reality of the situation.
Plus people think him being on high wages is only our problem. I would think he has the motivation to want to get back in the England squad and he needs to play to do that. If it’s only money he cares about and would not mind running down his contract even with the current playing scenario, we might as well threaten to not register him next season.
 
If he goes to Arsenal who would he replace from the first team? Because unlike us, other clubs wouldnt be paying that kind of wages for a subtitute player or a bench warmer. Hes behind Saka, Martinelli, and maybe even Trossard for wide positions.. and CF isnt his preferred position (not that he can displace Jesus and Havertz anyway).
He wouldn’t be competing with Saka. He'd be up against Martinelli and Trossard. He's more talented than both, but all three are currently at a very average level.
 
He wouldn’t be competing with Saka. He'd be up against Martinelli and Trossard. He's more talented than both, but all three are currently at a very average level.
The problem is Rashford is far far away from a good form at the moment wtih lack of minutes as well. If they want to wait for a player to return back to form they might as well wait for Martinelli because he was some player when on form. Trossard and I guess Sterling are good enough backups while still keeping their salary structure healthy. Rahsford to Arsenal only makes sense if they can get him for cheap or if Rashford is on a hot form that he will join and immediately be the 1st choice along with Saka.

I guess its just media talks... Milan makes more sense even if they are rather skint.
 
The problem is Rashford is far far away from a good form at the moment wtih lack of minutes as well. If they want to wait for a player to return back to form they might as well wait for Martinelli because he was some player when on form. Trossard and I guess Sterling are good enough backups while still keeping their salary structure healthy. Rahsford to Arsenal only makes sense if they can get him for cheap or if Rashford is on a hot form that he will join and immediately be the 1st choice along with Saka.

I guess its just media talks... Milan makes more sense even if they are rather skint.
£21mill+£1 new bid incoming... if you know, you know.
 
United are not the only club hampered with PSR issues.

Nobody is gonna pay for Rashford’s salary or transfer value. It’s gonna be a bargain sale and United are going to cover a portion of his salary. But they only have themselves to blame again!
 
The problem is Rashford is far far away from a good form at the moment wtih lack of minutes as well. If they want to wait for a player to return back to form they might as well wait for Martinelli because he was some player when on form. Trossard and I guess Sterling are good enough backups while still keeping their salary structure healthy. Rahsford to Arsenal only makes sense if they can get him for cheap or if Rashford is on a hot form that he will join and immediately be the 1st choice along with Saka.

I guess its just media talks... Milan makes more sense even if they are rather skint.
If I was an Arsenal fan, I wouldn't want my team to go near him unless he was taking a massive paycut. I have a mate who is an Arsenal fan and his view is the opposite of mine. He deems United to be a bit of a mess and that the change in environment would make Rashford a punt worth taking.
 
How humiliating for Rashford to have Arsenal reportedly bid €25 million for you. They paid nearly three times that for Nicholas Pepe.

Rashford has three years left on his contract, is an England international, and Arsenal won't even pay what they sold Nketiah for...
 
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