Marcus Rashford (out)

If he really likes to play football or care about his career he is best leaving before Monday.

He won't change playing for this club.

Best getting rid so we can bring someone in that will work hard and can score us goals.
 
If the club sell Rashford and he hasn't made a formal transfer request, they have to pay up his contract. Assuming Italian law is the same Atalanta would've paid Hojlund's off when he left.
No mate, nobody in contract can be forced to sign for someone else. That situation doesn't exist post Bosman. A player might conceivably demand his contract paid in exchange for leaving the club but that's far from the norm.
 
No mate, nobody in contract can be forced to sign for someone else. That situation doesn't exist post Bosman. A player might conceivably demand his contract paid in exchange for leaving the club but that's far from the norm.
How does it work then? I suppose the Rashford and Hojlund situations are different in that Rashford's wages are probably going to be lower so he would expect the difference?
 
there is. the worst trainer has to wear their mum’s dressing gown in public.

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I don't get why most footballers can't dress better. They've got the money to get personal shoppers and stylists but choose to dress in garish tacky stuff like this.
 
I'm amazed he's not going to Spurs or Arsenal even on loan they could both use him, he'd love the London life
 
If the club sell Rashford and he hasn't made a formal transfer request, they have to pay up his contract. Assuming Italian law is the same Atalanta would've paid Hojlund's off when he left.
Nope, that's not how transfers work

A club can only sell a player if said player agrees to all the terms, whether or not he asked for a transfer is irrrelevant, existing contracts are not automatically paid out
 
Nope, that's not how transfers work

A club can only sell a player if said player agrees to all the terms, whether or not he asked for a transfer is irrrelevant, existing contracts are not automatically paid out
Got it, so I'm assuming Rashford would want the money made up is he agrees to leave for a lower wage.
 
Remember all the people who insisted that him fecking off to New York dressed like that in the middle of the biggest crisis of our club's modern history was not indicative of a problem with his attitude?
 
If the club sell Rashford and he hasn't made a formal transfer request, they have to pay up his contract. Assuming Italian law is the same Atalanta would've paid Hojlund's off when he left.
You are mistaken.
Did Leicester pay up Harry Maguires contract?
Did Crystal Palace pay up Wan Bisakkas contract?

A player is only entitled to be paid for the period of the contract they are at the club. Also for your information the laws around this do not differ in any country in Europe

You are confusing a transfer with a situation where the player is refusing to leave (mainly because they are being forced out) and the club may come to some mutual agreement to either terminate the contract or pay them an incentive to accept the move.

Once you transfer and sign a contract with a new club your previous contract is terminated on said date and you are owed no monies beyond what was contractually obligated on said date (which includes any loyalty bonuses etc) maybe this is what you are referring to?
 
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You are mistaken.
Did Leicester pay up Harry Maguires contract?
Did Crystal Palace pay up Wan Bisakkas contract?

A player is only entitled to be paid for the period of the contract they are at the club. Also for your information the laws around this do not differ in any country in Europe

You are confusing a transfer with a situation where the player is refusing to leave (mainly because they are being forced out) and the club may come to some mutual agreement to either terminate the contract or pay them an incentive to accept the move.

Once you transfer and sign a contract with a new club your previous contract is terminated on said date and you are owed no monies beyond what was contractually obligated on said date (which includes any loyalty bonuses etc) maybe this is what you are referring to?
Yep, I was wrong, it's been cleared up earlier. The outcome seems that Rashford has to agree to leave if the club sell him so he may want any difference in salary made up.
 
Oh no doubt about that

A good agent will manage his clinets expectations not just the clubs, I can't imagine that's easy to do for your own brother

For the club and player to clearly be wiling to get a deal done and yet it's seemingly struggled to get past initial enquiries tells me someone is refusing to negotiate
The decent agents guide & ground as you say. He is reped by novices.


Probably he is in a bubble where everyone including the club, family-"agent" and entourage have just catered to him until he left orbit?
He is experiencing a greatly lowered favorability by wide set of fans, teams, our execs and losing the media plot. Maybe he cares, maybe not?
Berrada & new execs are more tight pursed and cutthroat unlike their predecessors. More immune to "divide and conquer" tactics even?
He is signed by the old and not up to spec for the new order of things. If he stays for £ just to jog while United scramble to rebuild, resentment toward him will grow massive and rapidly erode much of the goodwill and likability he built. Not sure he realizes this fully?
 
Got it, so I'm assuming Rashford would want the money made up is he agrees to leave for a lower wage.
More than likely, or at least a proportion of it, pretty much any other player would do the same - the real issue is that he was given a contract like in the first place
 
Remember all the people who insisted that him fecking off to New York dressed like that in the middle of the biggest crisis of our club's modern history was not indicative of a problem with his attitude?
Unfortunately he'll probably be one of those players who at 40 is potless, the hangers on will be long gone, and he'll be wishing he'd not thrown it all away in his mid 20s.

It's impossible to be in his head, and we'd all factored in possible family issues, like we did the back issues he played through gallantly for ages.
But unfortunately the truth seems to be he's just given up on putting effort in and thinks he's too big for it.
 
More than likely, or at least a proportion of it, pretty much any other player would do the same - the real issue is that he was given a contract like in the first place
Yes but he’s also said that he’s ready for a new challenge. So that could be framed more mutual than being one sided pushed so there could also be a compromise on the payout imo. Or he can stay and not have his wish.
 
Yes but he’s also said that he’s ready for a new challenge. So that could be framed more mutual than being one sided pushed so there could also be a compromise on the payout imo. Or he can stay and not have his wish.
Not suggesting there's no room for compromise, that's why I said a proportion, ulimately this will be his decision
 
Tbf I think he has been quite respectful to both Amorim and the club since being frozen out. And I'd lump Casemiro in with that as well. Neither have said anything negative about either the management or the club.
 
Tbf I think he has been quite respectful to both Amorim and the club since being frozen out. And I'd lump Casemiro in with that as well. Neither have said anything negative about either the management or the club.

It's the bare minimum you'd expect from a professional footballer earning £250+ a week.
 
Yep, I was wrong, it's been cleared up earlier. The outcome seems that Rashford has to agree to leave if the club sell him so he may want any difference in salary made up.
Indeed.
But given he seems to be the one wanting a move (been angling for one for 2 years) and has publicly said he wants to move I doubt the club is going to be playing ball
 
I don't see a club in any of the european competitions going in for him, bar maybe turkish. He might listen to saudi now he's seen Barcelona don't want to sign a lazy man child.

Odds on that he stays here. I doubt Man Utd want to see more precedent for paying players to play for other clubs. We did that with Sancho and he slagged us off.

I know it's expensive but would prefer him to stay rather than another club pay like 25% of his salary.
 
I don't get why most footballers can't dress better. They've got the money to get personal shoppers and stylists but choose to dress in garish tacky stuff like this.

This is considered good in the personal shopper world. Not even memeing, I had the misfortune to meet someone in this job, and you couldn't believe the way they think about clothing.
 
So Rashford has apparently said that he is not prepared to take a salary reduction…..

Therefore the managers comments today giving him a way back makes sense as he’s obviously been told we aren’t giving him away on loan and paying for it.

Be interesting to see how this plays out the next few days….will definitely tell us a lot about the new leadership.
 
If he is that bad of a trainer, how is it that he is not removed from training or made to train with the reserves? I don't get it.
Because as said by Neville and Rooney there, he's not a bad trainer. Most of the time at least. It's pretty much his life outside football.
 
Remember all the people who insisted that him fecking off to New York dressed like that in the middle of the biggest crisis of our club's modern history was not indicative of a problem with his attitude?
How does how a person dresses reflect their attitude? You see the most ridiculous things being worn by athletes regularly. It's a nonsense argument and potentially racially tinged.
 
I don’t think there’s been one game since this all started where Ive said to myself too bad we don’t have Rashford out there.
 
How does how a person dresses reflect their attitude? You see the most ridiculous things being worn by athletes regularly. It's a nonsense argument and potentially racially tinged.

Well it clearly did reflect his attitude, so case closed.
 
So Rashford has apparently said that he is not prepared to take a salary reduction…..

Therefore the managers comments today giving him a way back makes sense as he’s obviously been told we aren’t giving him away on loan and paying for it.

Be interesting to see how this plays out the next few days….will definitely tell us a lot about the new leadership.
When and where did this happen?