Marcus Rashford (out) | signs for Villa on loan

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Ofcourse you can... I have examples.... Chelsea sold Mount on good money and good fee with 1 year left.

Chelsea sold Havertz with good money and good wage...

Now I bet you will say.. oh but its Manutd and Arsenal, the point is, if there is a will there is a way.

Chelsea have sold numerous players for good money who were on good wages.
Mount was earning like 80k a week at Chelsea. You also had the English tax on the fee.
 

Fecking reject. We cant be that stupid. Pay them so he can play for them? We are fecking thin in atrack and not getting anyone good instead. I would rather have unmotivated Rashford over Kolo fecking Muani. If he so badly wants to leave let him cut his own wages.
 
I still don’t understand why United should pay any wages to Rashford either on loan or if we sell him. He spoke on record that he was ready for a new challenge; well, sorry sir, but that might just come at a lower wage
He didn't elaborate on what that challenge was, for all we know that could be 3 years of training to become FIFA 2028 champion

If United want him out it's going to cost them one way or another
 
Mount was earning like 80k a week at Chelsea. You also had the English tax on the fee.


Mount is a mediocre player many levels below what Rash have shown in the past 8 years. On top of that he is a nothing player, he secured a contract on the same level if Rashford.

Every one involved in signing mount should be fecking investigated.
 
Ofcourse you can... I have examples.... Chelsea sold Mount on good money and good fee with 1 year left.

Chelsea sold Havertz with good money and good wage...

Now I bet you will say.. oh but its Manutd and Arsenal, the point is, if there is a will there is a way.

Chelsea have sold numerous players for good money who were on good wages.

Mount wasn’t even on 100k a week at Chelsea so he wasn’t due a huge pay off like Rashford is. Hazard was playing all the time for Chelsea and Madrid were desperate to sign him.

Those examples make no sense in relation to your point. Better examples are Ozil and Aubamayeng, Rashford is much closer to their situation than he is to Eden Hazard’s.
 
Ofcourse you can... I have examples.... Chelsea sold Mount on good money and good fee with 1 year left.

Chelsea sold Havertz with good money and good wage...

Now I bet you will say.. oh but its Manutd and Arsenal, the point is, if there is a will there is a way.

Chelsea have sold numerous players for good money who were on good wages.
The difference being they sold players who didn't have an attitude problem like Rashford
 
Chelsea could sell Mount because there was a club at the time being run by a band of idiots they could easily exploit.

We're not going to get the better of any club in the transfer market for our duds, especially in the era of PSR.

Right, I knew you would say that but Arsenal also signed Havertz for big fee and wages.. so its not just 1 club is it?
 
Chelsea could sell Mount because there was a club at the time being run by a band of idiots they could easily exploit.

We're not going to get the better of any club in the transfer market for our duds, especially in the era of PSR.
There were multiple clubs in for Mount at the time. United chose to pay a premium for him to get him rather than risk it and wait for his contract to expire.
 
Mount wasn’t even on 100k a week at Chelsea so he wasn’t due a huge pay off like Rashford is. Hazard was playing all the time for Chelsea and Madrid were desperate to sign him.

Those examples make no sense in relation to your point. Better examples are Ozil and Aubamayeng, Rashford is much closer to their situation than he is to Eden Hazard’s.

False... actually go check Ozil and Auba age. they were over 30 compare to Rashford who is in his prime, unless you can show me a player in his prime who went for free.
 
The difference being they sold players who didn't have an attitude problem like Rashford

The difference is also Rashford is a proven goal scorer.

There are alot of players with attitude issues that get signed by teams.
 
There were multiple clubs in for Mount at the time. United chose to pay a premium for him to get him rather than risk it and wait for his contract to expire.

No serious club wanted to buy him or pay him insane wages, they wanted him on free the year after with low wages. That is why no other club but our donkey board took the bite. Utter idiocy from the club that ordinary fans predicted it months before happening.
 
Mount wasn’t even on 100k a week at Chelsea so he wasn’t due a huge pay off like Rashford is. Hazard was playing all the time for Chelsea and Madrid were desperate to sign him.

Those examples make no sense in relation to your point. Better examples are Ozil and Aubamayeng, Rashford is much closer to their situation than he is to Eden Hazard’s.
Why is it important what he was on rather what he is on right now. He is on 250k and he is a nothing player. A club that buys Rashford should pay him whatever he deserves and we should come to an agreement with him for a severance deal to let him go.
 
No serious club wanted to buy him or pay him insane wages, they wanted him on free the year after with low wages. That is why no other club but our donkey board took the bite. Utter idiocy from the club that ordinary fans predicted it months before happening.
Liverpool were heavily interested if I remember correctly. Which is why we moved for him when we did.
 
Mount is a mediocre player many levels below what Rash have shown in the past 8 years. On top of that he is a nothing player, he secured a contract on the same level if Rashford.

Every one involved in signing mount should be fecking investigated.
Well now that first line is a load of bollocks anyway :lol:
 
You can say that but none of these clubs were stupid enough to pay anywhere near £60m for him with 1 year left, I don’t think Arsenal or Pool would have even considered him at half of that fee.

Also no one else would have offered him anything close to 250k a week, 3x his wages at Chelsea. We offered him a contract like he was a free agent, despite also doing the deal for him and not waiting for his contract to expire
Easy to say that in hindsight but the move made a lot of sense at the time and without the injuries would still.
 
Why is it important what he was on rather what he is on right now. He is on 250k and he is a nothing player. A club that buys Rashford should pay him whatever he deserves and we should come to an agreement with him for a severance deal to let him go.

Because salaries impact transfer fees and he’s only on 250k a week because some idiots at Utd agreed to it. No one else would have been stupid enough to pay him that. We were willing to pay Mount more for some reason does anyone seriously think another club will match or better Rashford’s salary.

And how much are those teams going to pay Rashford, 125-150k a week so Rashford has a shortfall of about 25-30m that he’ll want Utd to pay.
 
With this attitude we will never sell a player with a good price. All the player has to do is to mentally checks out and then well will pay other clubs for our players.

Make him stay and fight if we do not have serious buyers, if he is still with negative attitude, fine the feck out of him until he starts acting like an adult again.
You can't just fine a player. Well if he goes clubbing and it's agains the rules, sure. But you can't just continue fining a player.
 
Liverpool were heavily interested if I remember correctly. Which is why we moved for him when we did.

They were not "heavily" interested, they cautiously interested in him for free transfer in one year or very reduced deal with a salary not more than rotation players in their team. He would never get more than 150k there. Just look at the salaries of ther midfielders.
 
They were not "heavily" interested, they cautiously interested in him for free transfer in one year or very reduced deal with a salary not more than rotation players in their team. He would never get more than 150k there. Just look at the salaries of ther midfielders.
What a load of shite

Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp, according to a source, was in regular contact with Mount from January 2023. At one stage, meanwhile, a source said that talks with Arsenal got so advanced that Mikel Arteta privately told his coaches that a transfer to the Emirates was "a done deal."
 
Easy to say that in hindsight but the move made a lot of sense at the time and without the injuries would still.
Nah the majority on here and online were questioning the move. Some just don't rate him while others just looked at it like he was a player with 1 year left on his contract who was having loads of injuries, and played in a position where our best player and captain played in (and a player who never really needs rotating). So it never made much sense because nobody also thought that a system with both of them would be the slightest bit balanced.
 
Paying half the wages for next few months is possibly still better than paying all of it.
But then I’m shocked there’s no real interest in buying him. His stock is so low now and a bad loan spell will make it worse.
There will be more interest in the summer. No one has a loads of money just sitting around to be spent in January.
 
Nah the majority on here and online were questioning the move. Some just don't rate him while others just looked at it like he was a player with 1 year left on his contract who was having loads of injuries, and played in a position where our best player and captain played in (and a player who never really needs rotating). So it never made much sense because nobody also thought that a system with both of them would be the slightest bit balanced.
There are numerous reasons why he was a sensible signing. Admittedly we overpaid but it still made sense.

He was:
Approaching his best years
England international (helps with HG rules)
Tactically versatile and hard working
Good set piece taker

Injuries have really screwed him over but he is a very solid player. Says a lot that Ruben was so full of praise for him on arrival.
 


I’m getting fed up with this. I know it probably makes sense from a business point of view to subsidise his wages and hope he impresses enough on loan for someone to buy him in the Summer but it’s infuriating having to pay him to play somewhere else because he’s not doing enough to get in our squad.

Even more frustrating is that the reason he's not in the squad and the manager is not having him is because he is lazy, not a lack of talent. It's a tough pill to swallow.
 
How you have compared Hazard and Rashford makes zero sense, total nonsense, couldn’t have picked more different situations. Rashford isn’t in his prime, he’s been terrible for 18 months and looks disinterested.

Please show me when I brought up Hazard... ?
 
Because salaries impact transfer fees and he’s only on 250k a week because some idiots at Utd agreed to it. No one else would have been stupid enough to pay him that. We were willing to pay Mount more for some reason does anyone seriously think another club will match or better Rashford’s salary.

And how much are those teams going to pay Rashford, 125-150k a week so Rashford has a shortfall of about 25-30m that he’ll want Utd to pay.


Off course we are stupid. Buying a talentless player like Mount is a crime itself let alone paying superstars money.

Rashford is on 300k. Morata is on 195k including bonuses and Morata ia many years older than Rashford.

If Rashford would go there on the same salary of morata (10m euros per year) the difference is 15m euros. You can not tell me that we can't get more than 15 million euros for Rashford from AC Milan.
 
With this attitude we will never sell a player with a good price. All the player has to do is to mentally checks out and then well will pay other clubs for our players.

Make him stay and fight if we do not have serious buyers, if he is still with negative attitude, fine the feck out of him until he starts acting like an adult again.
This isn't practical.
Don't want to spoil your fun but we are probably going to have to pay him off when he moves parmanently.
 
There are numerous reasons why he was a sensible signing. Admittedly we overpaid but it still made sense.

He was:
Approaching his best years
England international (helps with HG rules)
Tactically versatile and hard working
Good set piece taker

Injuries have really screwed him over but he is a very solid player. Says a lot that Ruben was so full of praise for him on arrival.
I mean you don't spend 60m on an injury prone player with big wages and 1 year left on his deal if it's not a position of need in your starting 11, especially not when you have loads of problems in your lineup. That's a clear example of shit business. If anything, Mount is incredibly fortunate that we brought in Amorim as his formation can fit in both Bruno and Mount without unbalancing it, and it's given Mount the chance to actually be more than a backup here.

He's not a bad player, but you don't spend big money on just any good player available. That's how yourself into the financial shit situation that we have. You look at your team and look at the holes. No CF, no left back, shit group of CBs at the time and average wingers. It's plain dumb to spend money on a player who doesn't fall into these categories.

Right now we need:
  • CF
  • LWB
  • Left #10
  • Ugarte backup
  • LCB competition
Any signing that doesn't fit one of these positions is a waste of money, even if it's for a good player (in which case we better be upgrading on what we have and selling what we have to make space).
 
The guys about 7 goals away from being in the top 10 for all time goal scorers for the club.

Pretty decent for a talentless hack fraud
If all you do when you get the ball is shoot at the net occasionally you hit the target, a broken clock is right twice a day...

Based on the sheer amount of games the modern footballer plays he has scored a decent amount of goals, but when you look at his goals per game ratio he is down at 78th in the all time list of United players, even Hojlund is way ahead of him in that list, as are a number of other players, Zlatan, Ruud, Chicarito, Berbatov, Tevez, Bruno, etc, etc.

When was the last time he put in a good performance, not scored a goal or two, but put in a good performance. If you can find one, let me know.
 
What a load of shite

Well that is a load of shit you just plucked from nowhere. No respectable source said that they wanted him at any cost. Anyhow, enough about that mediocre player Mount he has a complete own thread to talk about how stupid (and obvious stupid for most fans at the time) this deal was.
 
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