Marcus Rashford (out) | signs for Villa on loan

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You can see him being effective there? I want what you're smoking
Yes, to a certain extent.
I think the league is less intense and maybe the weather would help any back issues he has.

Also Id guess Yamal takes a lot of the focus on the right which would free Rashford to do what he does best - clear run at goal and score.

Some kind of swap with homegrown money on the books might suit both clubs.
Fermin also looks elite.
 
I feel sorry for Rashford. No trolling, no snide.

He employs his brother as an agent. Has his brother ever negotiated a transfer before? Wherever you think about the likes of Kia Joorabchian, they know their way around.

I imagine it's very different trying to do deals with a Man Utd that's willing to bend over to accommodate you, than trying to negotiate how and in what way a transfer of the nature Marcus wants can be realised.

Nothing about the way his exit has been handled so far makes you confident about him actually getting a move away. This is not a Jorge Mendes deal that's for sure.
You feel “sorry” for Rashford for willingly employing…his (probably not as qualified/unqualified) brother as his agent? Yeah, now that’s a first.
 
Barca seem like the only possibility in Europe now, unless theres a compromise on wages.
I can see him being effective for them.

Trying to get Fermin in return and even a punt on Ansu if its reasonable would be worth exploring.
Has ansu fati’s fitness improved at all? He couldn’t even survive at Brighton. Maybe a good old blast from the past in a FDJ swap deal would suffice :lol: :drool:
 
Yes…. but why would a player go there if he’s not sure he can play? (like Olmo has found out)?
This is the Rashford thread?
I dont think he’s assessing his future very well.

I personally think he has some conditioning issues, back related? Which means he cant go hard. He’s happy to get as close to his retirement whilst picking up a significant salary.

Barcelona would aid that.
A less intense league, warmer weather, still prestigious. Likely good money.
If he cant play for a few months, he still gets alittle closer to retirement.

This is just idle speculation.

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Has ansu fati’s fitness improved at all? He couldn’t even survive at Brighton. Maybe a good old blast from the past in a FDJ swap deal would suffice :lol: :drool:
Who knows, but he’s like a clone of Amad.
Ansu on the Left, Amad to the right… Gyokers in the middle.
 
no one wants him. he's too expensive for the value he provides. we're gonna be stuck with him after the window.
 
Like a rotting fish, I just don’t see any buyers for Marcus Rashford.
He's grossly overestimated his worth and his people around him are deluded. The shame is if he had applied himself like a young Ronaldo and developed his game he could have been a world class player.
 
He's grossly overestimated his worth and his people around him are deluded. The shame is if he had applied himself like a young Ronaldo and developed his game he could have been a world class player.


I really do believe that. But what I also believe is that he should have undergone back surgery rather than play in the Euros.
 
Yes, to a certain extent.
I think the league is less intense and maybe the weather would help any back issues he has.

Also Id guess Yamal takes a lot of the focus on the right which would free Rashford to do what he does best - clear run at goal and score.

Some kind of swap with homegrown money on the books might suit both clubs.
Fermin also looks elite.

You're massively overestimating Rashford. Rashford has been left alone to do what he does best at United. Jogging around.

Those Barca fans will boo him out if he dares jog around in Nou Camp.

It may not be as tough as EPL but they arent spring chicken league over there, and the amount of play Rashford would break down would make him stood out.

Good lord you're making him sounds like young Ronaldo
 
Hopefully Rashford would get a reality check on what the footballing world thinks of his last couple of seasons. In his cocoon he seems to have blamed everyone but him.
 
Yet again we’ve given a massive contract out making it near impossible to sell this joker. Whatever happens with him Manchester United have made him what he is. Giving him a massive contract after one good season, we have to start being more picky, reducing the wage budget and not giving out ridiculous money.

There were stories bout paintings of him on the wall inside carrington alongside cantina Higgs best Charlton and Law. Let’s call it as it is, he isn’t fit to lace the boots of any of those amazing players. If we’re stuck with him it’s our own fault.
 
To be fair his brother is doing a good job. He's settled for life doing less than the minimum effort of being a pro athlete.

And as much as we hate it his PR works, he got years of leeway not many players get

Maybe he's lazy deep inside and only in it for the money, which is already guaranteed
The sad thing is he wasn’t lazy in his early days. Even Jose said he runs like a mad dog and plays through injuries that would leave others needing 2 weeks off.

It’s awful how it’s all unfolded and we don’t know what’s going on inside his head. Surely the easiest way for him to get back would be to accept the new challenge at Utd and put maximum effort in but we all know that’s not going to happen.
 
I really think it's a good thing him being humbled by seeing nobody really wants to pay him his current salary or pay money to loan him, hope he learns something from it.
 
Reality may now be dawning on him that this is his last ever big salary unless he goes to Saudi Arabia. So pick one Marcus.
1. Play in Europe for half the salary.
2. Swallow your pride and show some effort and desire and fight.
3. Go and live in Saudi Arabia.
 
Reality may now be dawning on him that this is his last ever big salary unless he goes to Saudi Arabia. So pick one Marcus.
1. Play in Europe for half the salary.
2. Swallow your pride and show some effort and desire and fight.
3. Go and live in Saudi Arabia.
I can now see him taking option 3, may as well go the Bale route semi-retired on big money.
 
The Bale route is just seeing out your contract.
I meant in the sense of, going for biggest contract available and coast. Only is Saudi would he be able to do it. Any other decent European club would not go beyond the loan if he carries on as now.
 
Overall, United was desperate to keep hold of their prize asset therefore giving Rashford a good increment. United needs to work towards a salary based on performance, appearance and making Champion League. If we fail to qualify for Champions then everyone compensation will be reduce. Wages should be Max 200-250k which makes the player moveable asset where other clubs can afford.
 
The club should throw the kitchen sink at him, show him that going to Saudi Arabia is way better than sticking around whilst not playing. Deregister him, take the #10 jersey and give it to anyone even Onana, throw him out of first team training and toe that hard line until the summer window.

He will get the message and feck off, more importantly so will others. He is not Casemiro, who was a winner before coming here and has just 18 months to endure any isolation. Freezing him out until the summer will break him.
 
Overall, United was desperate to keep hold of their prize asset therefore giving Rashford a good increment. United needs to work towards a salary based on performance, appearance and making Champion League. If we fail to qualify for Champions then everyone compensation will be reduce. Wages should be Max 200-250k which makes the player moveable asset where other clubs can afford.

I think that's already in the contracts as a standard clause for United as well. But I agree that contracts need to be more performance based, appearances etc.
 
I will never understand why players employ their family as agents. Get a fecking professional. How many clients does Dwayne Maynard have, has he ever facilitated a transfer?
I think it's to do with keeping the circle close and small where possible. Family can feck you over but there have been many agents who don't give a feck about the player and may take advantage of them or lead them down a path which is favourable for the agent. Bringing your people along and allowing them to make living while doing work is naturally a draw too.

His brothers may have had other ventures but the chances are they wouldn't be making this sort of money if they had no involvement and no doubt Marcus would be funding things for them if that was the case.

It seems like pretty slimy industry and if you're switched on enough, a family member could do the role. There are plenty of relatives acting as agents/management that have done fine.
 
The club should throw the kitchen sink at him, show him that going to Saudi Arabia is way better than sticking around whilst not playing. Deregister him, take the #10 jersey and give it to anyone even Onana, throw him out of first team training and toe that hard line until the summer window.

He will get the message and feck off, more importantly so will others. He is not Casemiro, who was a winner before coming here and has just 18 months to endure any isolation. Freezing him out until the summer will break him.
It won't. He will just go on an write 100 insufferable social Media essays in his free time
 
The club should throw the kitchen sink at him, show him that going to Saudi Arabia is way better than sticking around whilst not playing. Deregister him, take the #10 jersey and give it to anyone even Onana, throw him out of first team training and toe that hard line until the summer window.

He will get the message and feck off, more importantly so will others. He is not Casemiro, who was a winner before coming here and has just 18 months to endure any isolation. Freezing him out until the summer will break him.
Being that petty isn't likely to yield anything positive. That would be further devalue him, making it even harder to get rid of him and possibly even making other players feel uncomfortable. Just because the club and fans want him out doesn't mean the whole playing staff can't stand him too.

Ultimately there will have to be some sort of compromise, United will likely need to subsidise some of his wages and Rashford will have to lower his wage demands.
 
I meant in the sense of, going for biggest contract available and coast. Only is Saudi would he be able to do it. Any other decent European club would not go beyond the loan if he carries on as now.
He can't do a Bale in Saudi Arabia though. Because then that wouldn't be doing a Bale, as he'd be moving before the plum contract expired. The only way for Rashford to do a Bale is if he stays. Unless he gets a bigger contract at a bigger club and then pisses them off for 5 years, with the odd respite when he dines on scouse tears.
 
Being that petty isn't likely to yield anything positive. That would be further devalue him, making it even harder to get rid of him and possibly even making other players feel uncomfortable. Just because the club and fans want him out doesn't mean the whole playing staff can't stand him too.

Ultimately there will have to be some sort of compromise, United will likely need to subsidise some of his wages and Rashford will have to lower his wage demands.
And if he doesn't, then what? Keep pandering to them that you can sign big deals, not fulfill your end of the bargain and we reward you with the luxury of choosing where you want to play at our expense? This is what he is leaning on, that if he doesn't get a move he will be reintegrated, score a few goals and start coasting again.

Take that option away from him and he will be serious about moving in the next window. He is an unprofessional twat who still thinks Saudi is beneath him thereby fecking us in the process. I don't see, setting standards and sticking to them, even in the most extreme way, as being petty. If we show him that we are prepared to end his career he will take the next flight out.
 
To be fair his brother is doing a good job. He's settled for life doing less than the minimum effort of being a pro athlete.

And as much as we hate it his PR works, he got years of leeway not many players get

Maybe he's lazy deep inside and only in it for the money, which is already guaranteed

Doenst kane and mbappe have also their families as agents? It worked quite well for them as well. Eventually they got the transfer they wanted.
 
Reality may now be dawning on him that this is his last ever big salary unless he goes to Saudi Arabia. So pick one Marcus.
1. Play in Europe for half the salary.
2. Swallow your pride and show some effort and desire and fight.
3. Go and live in Saudi Arabia.
4. Sit on the bench/stands and collect 350k pw.

This is a likely option, unfortunately
 
To be fair his brother is doing a good job. He's settled for life doing less than the minimum effort of being a pro athlete.

And as much as we hate it his PR works, he got years of leeway not many players get

Maybe he's lazy deep inside and only in it for the money, which is already guaranteed
His PR has always been obvious ego boosting bullshit typical of a modern day attention seeking celebrity. Only idiots lap that nonsense up.
Rashford got more leeway than most due to being local, being an academy product, and looking like he was destined to become one of the better players in the league. United fans are obsessed with youth players (it's in our "DNA") so they'll always get special treatment
 
And if he doesn't, then what? Keep pandering to them that you can sign big deals, not fulfill your end of the bargain and we reward you with the luxury of choosing where you want to play at our expense? This is what he is leaning on, that if he doesn't get a move he will be reintegrated, score a few goals and start coasting again.

Take that option away from him and he will be serious about moving in the next window. He is an unprofessional twat who still thinks Saudi is beneath him thereby fecking us in the process. I don't see, setting standards and sticking to them, even in the most extreme way, as being petty. If we show him that we are prepared to end his career he will take the next flight out.
It's a risk that all clubs take when signing someone on big wages. Ultimately the club offered the deal and these are the consequences of paying players huge wages.

The club needs to be more sensible with the contracts they offer out to avoid being in situations like this.
 
It's a risk that all clubs take when signing someone on big wages. Ultimately the club offered the deal and these are the consequences of paying players huge wages.

The club needs to be more sensible with the contracts they offer out to avoid being in situations like this.
No argument from me on that but we are talking about how to get out of huge hole Murtough and Arnold dug us into with Rashford. We can't be soft or sentimental on this, if he wants to stick to his wage demands then show him that once he sabotages a move there is nothing to come back to at United. He could do a Bale but can he hold out for 3 years?

Put him to the test, make him sacrifice something (his career) for that money and send a message to the rest that a stay at United must be earned. One way or the other he will find a way out, on better terms for us, than subsidising his loan moves.
 
Doenst kane and mbappe have also their families as agents? It worked quite well for them as well. Eventually they got the transfer they wanted.

It's easier to handle players when they've made it from academy. Agents like (I forgot his name) is another thing where he financed kids from early years hoping their investment would strike jackpot with South American kids

And his brother would have lawyers doing the details. He's just there to take the cut and make sure his goons are doing their job. It's not that simple off course but hardly rocket science
 
His PR has always been obvious ego boosting bullshit typical of a modern day attention seeking celebrity. Only idiots lap that nonsense up.
Rashford got more leeway than most due to being local, being an academy product, and looking like he was destined to become one of the better players in the league. United fans are obsessed with youth players (it's in our "DNA") so they'll always get special treatment

It works though. Love it or hate it. So he's doing alright from business point of view. Even if nothing new comes up he's mint for life
 
He should be frozen out completely if he doesn't move this month.

Disagree. The manager should open the door if he's willing to work hard. I don't expect that to be the case, but he should do it. Sends the right signal to the group.

Work hard, you're in. Don't, you're out. If he's gonna sit on his wages for the next six months there's no downside to trying to work with him.
 
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