It feels like Lingard all over, just that Rashford was a better player for MU off course.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 24
- Goals
- 7
- Assists
- 3
- Yellow cards
- 3
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) talk about the proposed new stadium, season ticket prices, Sir Jim Ratcliffe and all things INEOS after the first year of their co-ownership.
They also discuss back-to-back victories vs. Real Sociedad and Leicester City - was this the best week for Amorim so far?
Was playing as a sulky cnut.
This is a great point.
You're exactly right, it feels so similar to the last few years of Rooney.
I don't know if you've watched the game but you shouldn't trust that number. One of those chances, for instance, was an 'attempt' on target - he sliced it so wide, it went almost tangential to the direction he wanted and landed right at a teammate's feet, who had a shot at goal. Using this game as a marker to argue against lack of end product, especially when Eze came on and immediately got a goal from the left, is not the best idea.
I think he's playing well at Villa and has good chemistry with Asensio, by the way - stats don't show how good he's been there, especially from set pieces. But 0G/4A in 9 games (all assists for Asensio, btw) for a star forward out there to prove doubters wrong isn't exactly making the argument you think it is. For comparison, Garnacho - a player we criticise for lacking end product - is on 1G/3A and Dalot - our RWB/LWB is on 2G/2A across United's last 11.
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And another two are shots off target/ blocked shots that fell to a player a few yards out. Calling those 'assists' is a bit of a stretch.
He has 3 assists , hitting a free kick where the keeper pushes it onto the crossbar where the follow up is scored is not an assist
2 goals vs Everton almost 4 months ago still his last goals, even after playing against likes of Albania and Latvia (no disrespect to those teams). Good thing is he has good chemistry with Asensio as @Gandalf Greyhame mentioned so hopefully goals will come for Rashford. They've got Preston away next in the Fa Cup which should be a win and possibly chance for Marcus to shine. Hopefully next goal he scores will give him confidence to follow it with few more by the end of the season.
Every time Rashy controls a ball or actually runs a bit for a change, his fanboys are so proud.
You guys are weird.
You guys are weird.
The joys of statistics, though we still have thousands of pages about people arguing over this stuff like it's immutable proof of their point.Oh wow. Dude you killed Rashy
His cult is wild. I have a hard time believing it’s not the fault of twitter. So polarising.
He saw the ball a lot and did very little with it. No one else did anything with it either to be fair so was one of England's better players by default.
Commentator got him mixed up with Bellingham a couple of times when Bellingham fecked up a touch/pass. Just assumed it was Rashford.
Commentator got him mixed up with Bellingham a couple of times when Bellingham fecked up a touch/pass. Just assumed it was Rashford.
Except Lingard always put workrate in no matter what
A very average performance from Rashford, he looked dangerous in the positions he got himself into.
However; when it came to doing something, he was poor, end product was not there, he tried and failed really.
He also seems to have lost his pace, where he used to be able to hit and run down the line, it seems he struggles with that now.
However; when it came to doing something, he was poor, end product was not there, he tried and failed really.
He also seems to have lost his pace, where he used to be able to hit and run down the line, it seems he struggles with that now.
He's young enough that he can reinvent his game but instead he keeps trying to do what used to work. He's like a bad tribute act and the quicker he learns his attributes have changed the better it'll go for him.
He look a bit more lively I suppose but no great shakes. One of his problems is he always seems to try and twat the ball as hard as he can for nearly every cross or shot.
True, because Lingard seemingly knew his limitations. If only Rashford knew his own.
It is so frustratring. I am watching him play, both for Villa and NT, wanting him to go on a proper streak so we can attract a good offer for him, but he just doesn´t have it anymore.
Some decent movement, some decent passes into the box. Nothing we didn´t see when he was playing for us either. A long way from a +300kpw attacker.
Some decent movement, some decent passes into the box. Nothing we didn´t see when he was playing for us either. A long way from a +300kpw attacker.
Whilst I don’t disagree with you about most of your comments, how can a 27 year old athlete lose his pace. We saw in the CL the other day where he created mayhem with a blistering run from out to in from a Martinez Goal kick.
When you play against a team in an ultra low block, there’s simply less space to explode into and every time he got the ball, he was doubled up on. If he has appeared to be slower, than this is more likely they way he’s been partying for the last two seasons and drinking which he’s rumoured to do, maybe something in this when Amorim said ; “He didn’t like they way Rashford lives his life outside of the game?”
He’s not 28 until later this year, he needs a huge detox, told that he can not drink at all or he will not be considered for the England Squad and he needs a transfer away from United to either Barcelona or Birmingham which for a single man with that much money is a recipe for disaster!
Fergie would have made Marcus an absolute world beater, Mourinho didn’t have the patience for him, LVG and Ole loved him and ETH indulged him far too much.
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There are various reasons a 26 year athlete can lose pace, injuries being one of them and Rashford has had a few. He can create mayhem but you don’t pay an athlete 300k to create Mayhem.
So you are asking me how an athlete can lose pace, but in the 2nd paragraph have answered your own question.
Fergie would have got rid of him, he is complete the opposite player Fergie wanted. Fergie preferred players who had settled lives out of football, not party animals and that has been evident from the players he got rid of because of their off field activities.. e.g Beckham.
I thought he was a little isolated yesterday for a lot of the game with no real over/under lapping runs around him (mostly with Jude pulling across into the half space to give him a passing option but whilst being mostly static), but overall had enough of the ball in positions where he should have had more impact. Eze came on and was much more effective with the ball in a much shorter duration.
Albania performance was OK, I think this one was a bit below average. There was some moments of good pressing intensity and work rate off the ball across both games that were good to see as there's so many question marks over that part of his game, but in possession he looked far from a £300k p/w player. There's at least 2 or 3 I would start ahead of him at LW for England.
Albania performance was OK, I think this one was a bit below average. There was some moments of good pressing intensity and work rate off the ball across both games that were good to see as there's so many question marks over that part of his game, but in possession he looked far from a £300k p/w player. There's at least 2 or 3 I would start ahead of him at LW for England.
Paris Saint Germain have to stump up the cash. They wanted Rashford for as long as four years now. They cant simply back out of the deal.
He was 80 raising to 120mil shot at the time but Woodward declined. Also Rashy was not sure about the move.
Now Marcus wants to go, an agreement between PSG and United should be done at 60mil+. Its your turn, Berrada.
He was 80 raising to 120mil shot at the time but Woodward declined. Also Rashy was not sure about the move.
Now Marcus wants to go, an agreement between PSG and United should be done at 60mil+. Its your turn, Berrada.
There was a cult of Pogba and Martial as well. Every time I saw it I thought it's surely kids/teenagers, otherwise it's just weird.
Minutes per goal or assist this season for left wingers:
Rashford - 140 minutes
Garnacho - 155 minutes
Diaz - 155 minutes
Gordon - 175 minutes
Eze - 180 minutes.
Sancho - 216 minutes
Ramsey - 218 minutes
Martinelli - 227 minutes
Mitoma - 237 minutes
Garnacho isn’t as good as Rashford, but I’m not sure there’s much basis to criticise his pure numbers.
This is such a lazy comment/insight. PSG might have wanted him a few years ago, but have shown absolutely no interest in him in the 2.5 years since, in fact they have distanced themselves. Not that he is a superstar, but PSG has moved away from the model of signing the biggest names in the game. And most importantly, they have Kvara and Barcola playing in his position, both of which are much better players than Rashford.
It's like the current links for De Jong to United, once a player get a credible link to a club they become attached to that club for eternity, even when the circumstances around the club or player have changed drastically. Ten Hag wanted De Jong, he's gone, no one should ever believe a link between United and De Jong. PSG has changed their entire model, they have changed managers, Rashford has been shite for a couple years, there is nothing similar now to then about the situation between Rashford/PSG.
Mourinho wanted to sign Sinisa Mihalovic, not the club, and we had him linked with us for 3 managers post Mourinho, it's just lazy journalism that anyone who follows football with any level of detail should be able to spot and not fall for or perpetuate those rumors.
What's the difference between a cult and people who just admire certain players or want them to do well?
Re: Rashford, I hope for our sakes and his that he actually smashes it or that the press manage to gaslight everyone that he does, so we can sell him. I firmly believe he's capable of a hot streak for a couple of months
Some people might just want players on our books to do well for obvious reasons.
that free kick specialist who was about 5 years younger than Mou? surely not?
It's been obvious that he's lost pace for a few years now. Go back and watch footage from four or five seasons ago and he was electric. He'd streak away from defenders when the ball was played through. Now he doesn't even back himself to knock the ball past average paced defenders and win the foot race.
As to how it happens that's up for debate but injuries, nights out on the town and not putting 100% effort in in training don't help a player maintain their physical gifts.
As you say, if he knuckles down and cleans up his act he possibly could get some of that back but I'm not so sure.
Sorry mate, it was a tonque in cheek comment. Im sure the mods are already looking for my shite sarcastic posts.
Seriously enough, I am not sure whats left for Rashford. To be honest, being loaded like him, I would spent the rest of my life sitting beside Spike Lee or John Starks at Madison Square Garden. Clapping for every Brunson, Towns and Bridges three pointer or a dunk.
I think he put in a couple of good balls, and a couple of average or poor ones that were sometimes still threatening because Latvia arent very good
He worked hard to make something happen but England missed a fair few chances, including Kane missing one from a good ball from James
Was probably 3rd best player after Reece James and Eze, maybe Rogers 2nd half performance is enough to make it 4th. He was super quiet in the first half though
He worked hard to make something happen but England missed a fair few chances, including Kane missing one from a good ball from James
Was probably 3rd best player after Reece James and Eze, maybe Rogers 2nd half performance is enough to make it 4th. He was super quiet in the first half though
haha, my bad, Sergey Milinkovic -Savic.
Has he scored a goal since December? He seems to have done well for Villa and England but I think the problem with Rashford has always been the contract that places huge expectations for elite level performances, which he arguably was putting in in EtH's first season. His last four seasons are looking like this:
5 goals- 32 games
30 goals- 56 games
8 goals- 43 games
7 goals (so far) - 33 games
Those are not great numbers really. If he gets to 15 goals this season he will have done well at this rate.
5 goals- 32 games
30 goals- 56 games
8 goals- 43 games
7 goals (so far) - 33 games
Those are not great numbers really. If he gets to 15 goals this season he will have done well at this rate.
My point is I believe he still has raw pace which can be triggered but if your out get drunk every night your not playing your body starts to Diminish , but at 26/27 your body also still has the ability to regenerate that’s why you see an awful lot of 100m sprint kings peaking at 28-32.
Kyle Walker widely recognised as one of the fastest the EPL has ever seen and with a similar tendency to party a little to frequently is only now at 35 (next month) has started to lose his pace in the last 12 months, however in the last two internationals games he looked pretty quick to me.
Rashford just needs a transfer to Spain and if he’s not running past defenders in la liga something is wrong, probably it’s more of a mental thing as I genuinely believe the lad suffers in this area more than he does with declining physical attributes.
And somehow certain MU fans fooled themselves into thinking that 30 goals a season was the norm for Rashford now and not the other way around....
Agree on these points but add one more,
I think he has serious mental blocks as well which may have driven him to drink, I think the lad deserves more suppprt than a lot of fans are inclined to give him however he must be sold in the summer for the good of all parties and let’s hope he rips it up in la liga, I think he needs to move away from the EPL.
Quite easy really, if they've hit the scene very young, and played 100s of games and had some injuries.
Also because people are talking that absolute top end game changing pace. He's still "fast" of course, but doesn't seem to be as fast as before, when he could demolish almost anyone for speed.
Lost confidence or trying to play differently are other aspects of course but you just have to look at Owen or Rooney and ask were they as quick at 27 as they were at 17.
Yeah, possibly.
But I'm not sure what a reinvention of his game would amount to.
If he'd been a word beater who relied to a great extent on his speed - for instance - he could modify his game to not be that reliant on speed.
Or if he'd been a world beater who relied to a great extent on pure strength/athleticism - he could modify his game to not be that reliant on strength/athleticism.
The problem is - let's be brutally honest - that he never was a world beater in the first place.
(He might improve at this point in his career nevertheless, of course, by adding something to his rather limited repertoire - but the idea of him "reinventing" himself seems...I dunno, not the right term.)
Yep good point but neither Rooney or Owen were blessed with the natural physique or athleticism of Rashford, he’s brittle mentally compared to both of those players.
Look at Rooney now at 39 he looks mid 50’s he never won the genetic lottery, Fergie just made him work and work and probably used Paul Gascogne as an example to young Rooney of what goes wrong when you don’t listen to the right people.
Still think we will see him if he gets the right coach showing that 22/23 form again.