[ryansgirl]

Might be some truth to this. I think he's a very mediocre player for the wage he's on personally and maybe he wasn't carrying himself the way the manager liked in training but then I think of Antony situation and him not really getting much of a look in either under Amorim.

After being told on here this season was all about figuring out who could play in a 343, Amorim seemingly determined very quickly they couldn't cut it. That's a little suspicious to me. Nothing wrong with wanting to bring the wage bill more in line with revenue but I hope they aren't concocting stories to get people to turn on Rashford.

Wouldn't surprise me if they told Amorim from day 1 Rashford and Antony needed to go because we have attackers in their positions on lower wages.

I`m a big fan of Marcus but while money definitely comes into the equation, I think the club is starting to do what it should have done before - move on from players who are too high maintenance for the rebuild and not just the money.

Manchester United didn`t get to where it did under then Alex Ferguson by sidestepping hard decisions and being worried about issues other than is this player performing at the level we need and are they capable of adapting to the new paradigm? Marcus has made it clear by his behaviour he doesn`t want to stay or rather wants to stay on his terms and I think one of the conditions on which Amorim would have accepted the job was that player power had to be dealt with.

I think Marcus is a player who can`t compartmentalise his life too well but the club can no longer tolerate that for a number of reasons, of course his salary being one of them as well as what looks like a return to the Ferguson days of no player is too big to be moved on.

 

[elmo]

Might be some truth to this. I think he's a very mediocre player for the wage he's on personally and maybe he wasn't carrying himself the way the manager liked in training but then I think of Antony situation and him not really getting much of a look in either under Amorim.

After being told on here this season was all about figuring out who could play in a 343, Amorim seemingly determined very quickly they couldn't cut it. That's a little suspicious to me. Nothing wrong with wanting to bring the wage bill more in line with revenue but I hope they aren't concocting stories to get people to turn on Rashford.

Wouldn't surprise me if they told Amorim from day 1 Rashford and Antony needed to go because we have attackers in their positions on lower wages.

I think it’s clear the club wanted to get rid of the high paying players even from last year.

Look how they started to froze out Varane and Casemiro.

It’s why it’s even more maddening that they gave Rashford and Bruno such stupid contracts.

Rashford didn’t live up to his previous contract, giving him a pay raise was beyond stupid. Add on his lack of effort on the pitch when played, it’s no wonder we decided to get rid of him asap.

 

[NotThatSoph]

So he never lost it all along. He just can't be arsed doing it for us?

He has done the same things for United this season. Even while shit he's still comfortably United's third best attacker, behind Fernandes and Amad.

 

[Kingdingaling]

If you want fair, compare him with other players in the same position.

Now compare how much they are paid.

It does help.

 

[Swiss_Red89]

Would have been very useful in games like today.

It's still a ridiculous decision to completely frooze him out and loan him with the current state of our squad.

 

[C'est Moi Cantona]

Would have been very useful in games like today.

It's still a ridiculous decision to completely frooze him out and loan him with the current state of our squad.

Not if we break the cycle of player power, and get £40 million for him in the summer.

And tbf I'm not sure a player who wouldn't have run back properly, and so made every other player work even harder, would have been that useful for this game.

 

[TempusFugit]

Would have been very useful in games like today.

It's still a ridiculous decision to completely frooze him out and loan him with the current state of our squad.

Amorim said it was his decision. I still think whatever went wrong between him and Rashford could've been fixed. Finish the season before you start tearing apart the squad. Our season is getting worse game after game and right now we don't even have enough attackers to win us games consistently. Strengthening Aston Villa who are into the quarters of the FA cup and playing knockout CL football is certainly an interesting decision. They've got about 6 attacking players who instantly start here and we gave them arguably our best one.

 

[FerociousCorgis]

Would have been very useful in games like today.

It's still a ridiculous decision to completely frooze him out and loan him with the current state of our squad.

My god people at what point do we hold these divas accountable? Just because we are shit doesn't mean we need to put up with players like Rashford. Does he need to pull his pants down and drop a literal shit on the pitch for people to finally come to their senses or what

 

[Heinzesight]

My god people at what point do we hold these divas accountable? Just because we are shit doesn't mean we need to put up with players like Rashford. Does he need to pull his pants down and drop a literal shit on the pitch for people to finally come to their senses or what

At least his bowels would show more movement than Rashy has for two years.

 

[Roboc7]

Amorim said it was his decision. I still think whatever went wrong between him and Rashford could've been fixed. Finish the season before you start tearing apart the squad. Our season is getting worse game after game and right now we don't even have enough attackers to win us games consistently. Strengthening Aston Villa who are into the quarters of the FA cup and playing knockout CL football is certainly an interesting decision. They've got about 6 attacking players who instantly start here and we gave them arguably our best one.

He’s been shite for 18 months, keeping him in hope he has an odd decent game here and there is short sighted. We’ve left ourselves short but if we could actually sell him in the summer and get rid of his extortionate wages it’s the right decision.

We’ve prioritised getting rid of him permanently rather than probably having to loan him out in the summer, same with Antony.

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

He’s been shite for 18 months, keeping him in hope he has an odd decent game here and there is short sighted. We’ve left ourselves short but if we could actually sell him in the summer and get rid of his extortionate wages it’s the right decision.

We’ve prioritised getting rid of him permanently rather than probably having to loan him out in the summer, same with Antony.

Who hasn't?

 

[Carl]

No issue with the decision to let him go. Letting him go (and Antony) without bringing in a replacement though is incompetence of an incredibly high level.

 

[TempusFugit]

Who hasn't?

I always chuckle whenever i get that response. He's been shite for 18 months.... yes like the rest of the team and even then he's still stepped up and scored some important goals. It's unfair to demand that Rashford remains this absolute beacon of consistency while all around him his teammates are performing poorly, our managers regularly get out coached by any decent manager in addition to getting outclassed tactically on a regular basis and the club has somehow managed to gather some of the most error prone footballers in the PL. Every single factor just makes it more difficult for any player to be consistent, it's why players come here and look much worse after a short while.

 

[Greck]

Amorim froze him from the matchday squad but it's the club that wants him sold. He was moved on so quick for Amorim to have been the lone input. He makes too much and is impossible to have sustainable finances when everyone scales their contract demands based on what we're giving Rashford and Casemiro. Basically it will be a rough couple years as we clean the house. These aren't pure football decisions and the quicker people accept it the quicker they can stop putting everything at Amorim's door.

 

[Oranges038]

Would have been very useful in games like today.

It's still a ridiculous decision to completely frooze him out and loan him with the current state of our squad.

Useful for what exactly?

 

[AR87]

Who hasn't?

His responsibility is much higher as a senior player and top earner. Bruno over that same time period has been far more productive, and he's still come in for loads of criticism, some fair, some patently ridiculous.

Point being that at a certain pay grade excuses are just that. Players at that level need to rise above what's around them and drag the team as far as they can. Rashford has that level in him, which we saw in 22/23 and various other points in his career, but the last 18 months it was absent while his general effort and application on the pitch also went into the gutter.

Sometimes players need change to get back their spark. I don't really care how Rashford does on loan, at least not in relation to how he may have performed at United had he stayed.

It's been over between him and the club for awhile. Good time to move on for both parties.

 

[FerociousCorgis]

I'd rather see the club bring back dan James over seeing one second of Rashford on the pitch for us

 

[roseguy64]

Amorim froze him from the matchday squad but it's the club that wants him sold. He was moved on so quick for Amorim to have been the lone input. He makes too much and is impossible to have sustainable finances when everyone scales their contract demands based on what we're giving Rashford and Casemiro. Basically it will be a rough couple years as we clean the house. These aren't pure football decisions and the quicker people accept it the quicker they can stop putting everything at Amorim's door.

Accepted it wasn't a football decision once I saw the Jamie Jackson article when he was dropped from the squad.

 

[thegregster]

Off after 63 mins. Didn't do much in this match.

 

[FriedClams]

0 goals for Villa so far.

 

[Matt851]

He has received so much more praise than asensio despite asensio doing more

 

[Hammondo]

They were better without him.

 

[Roboc7]

There is no way they pay 40m for him, and his ludicrous wages. It’s a good deal on a loan for them but he’s more of a squad player so it’s a bad deal permanently.

The loan has been ok so far so we should be able to get rid but it is going to be a small market. Didn’t do a lot tonight and lucky to stay on as long as he did.

 

[NotoriousISSY]

It angers me more that they got Asensio who is absolutely smashing it.

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

There is no way they pay 40m for him, and his ludicrous wages. It’s a good deal on a loan for them but he’s more of a squad player so it’s a bad deal permanently.

The loan has been ok so far so we should be able to get rid but it is going to be a small market. Didn’t do a lot tonight and lucky to stay on as long as he did.

Needs him to take a wage cut (wherever he goes) … whether he would is another matter. We’ll see if he wants to p!ss about on a wage weekly wage several times a lot of peoples annual salary OR a clean break, full time football and still a great wage (for 99.9% of the population).

 

[Acheron]

There is no way they pay 40m for him, and his ludicrous wages. It’s a good deal on a loan for them but he’s more of a squad player so it’s a bad deal permanently.

The loan has been ok so far so we should be able to get rid but it is going to be a small market. Didn’t do a lot tonight and lucky to stay on as long as he did.

Yeah, the problem are his wages. Don't think they're justified for his output and talent but if he takes a pay cut shouldn't be that hard to move him on.

 

[JustinC00]

0 goals for Villa so far.

had a better purple patch under Amorim. scored 3 times in 220 minutes under Amorim. He's had 350 minutes playing for Villa and has 0 goals

 

[Rockets Redglare]

0 goals for Villa so far.

It’s odd how little is being made of this by the media. 7 games now without a goal and not a peep, yet all the other attacking players for Villa seem to be scoring.

 

[Utterly De Ligt'd]

The fact that he is allegedly doing better at Villa should anger United fans more than it should delight them. People hold him up as the face of the club, the academy player that loves the club more than anyone. Clearly it was a case of him not trying at United. It's not just the last 18 months, it's been close to 5 years now, minus that 3 month purple patch in 23. He didn't perform under Ole at the end, clearly not under Ragnick, he didn't perform for Ten Hag and he didn't perform for Amorim.

If you are backing Rashford at this point, it's Player FC and nothing else. I don't care if he has the ability to win a balon d'or in him, I don't ever want to see him in a United badge again.

A United academy player, still on our books, using his spite towards United as motivation disgusts me, but I have standards.

 

[BorisManUtd]

It’s odd how little is being made of this by the media. 7 games now without a goal and not a peep, yet all the other attacking players for Villa seem to be scoring.

Better. We have to sell him to someone in few months. Hopefully goals will come as they're in 3 competitions.

 

[sebsheep]

0 goals for Villa so far.

Does have a couple of assists I think? He's not been particularly impressive when I've seen him though.

 

[Heinzesight]

It’s odd how little is being made of this by the media. 7 games now without a goal and not a peep, yet all the other attacking players for Villa seem to be scoring.

We won’t hear the end of it once he does score.

 

[Ghostrider318]

He definitely running with more intent ( if that means anything ) at Villa. Helps when their playing style matches his. But his output has been similar - rarely beats the 1st man. Hes also getting some high praise for basics like his 1st game for villa, he ran into space with the ball and tries the cross and the commentators were singing his praises....

 

[Cassidy]

Amorim froze him from the matchday squad but it's the club that wants him sold. He was moved on so quick for Amorim to have been the lone input. He makes too much and is impossible to have sustainable finances when everyone scales their contract demands based on what we're giving Rashford and Casemiro. Basically it will be a rough couple years as we clean the house. These aren't pure football decisions and the quicker people accept it the quicker they can stop putting everything at Amorim's door.

Reports were he was told in the summer by Ineos that this season was his last chance

 

[klayton88]

It’s odd how little is being made of this by the media. 7 games now without a goal and not a peep, yet all the other attacking players for Villa seem to be scoring.

Tuna butties and Capri Sun. Golden child feeder. Gets a pass.

 

[clarkydaz]

It’s odd how little is being made of this by the media. 7 games now without a goal and not a peep, yet all the other attacking players for Villa seem to be scoring.

bound to be an inquest into the club soon as to why they are failing him

 

[Born2Lose]

The fact that he is allegedly doing better at Villa should anger United fans more than it should delight them. People hold him up as the face of the club, the academy player that loves the club more than anyone. Clearly it was a case of him not trying at United. It's not just the last 18 months, it's been close to 5 years now, minus that 3 month purple patch in 23. He didn't perform under Ole at the end, clearly not under Ragnick, he didn't perform for Ten Hag and he didn't perform for Amorim.

If you are backing Rashford at this point, it's Player FC and nothing else. I don't care if he has the ability to win a balon d'or in him, I don't ever want to see him in a United badge again.

A United academy player, still on our books, using his spite towards United as motivation disgusts me, but I have standards.

Agreed

 

[Pogue Mahone]

The fact that he is allegedly doing better at Villa should anger United fans more than it should delight them. People hold him up as the face of the club, the academy player that loves the club more than anyone. Clearly it was a case of him not trying at United. It's not just the last 18 months, it's been close to 5 years now, minus that 3 month purple patch in 23. He didn't perform under Ole at the end, clearly not under Ragnick, he didn't perform for Ten Hag and he didn't perform for Amorim.

If you are backing Rashford at this point, it's Player FC and nothing else. I don't care if he has the ability to win a balon d'or in him, I don't ever want to see him in a United badge again.

A United academy player, still on our books, using his spite towards United as motivation disgusts me, but I have standards.

Good rant but he isn’t doing any better at Villa yet. So save your wrath for when he does. If he does. Personally, I don’t think he will.

 

[The Mitcher]

Good rant but he isn’t doing any better at Villa yet. So save your wrath for when he does. If he does. Personally, I don’t think he will.

If we want to get rid surely we would want him to do better like Antony is?

 

[Godfather]

Just be good enough to be able to get rid please