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2023-24 Performances


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Every time he tries to run through multiple players and loses the ball I get an hour closer to dying from a stroke.
 
Every time he tries to run through multiple players and loses the ball I get an hour closer to dying from a stroke.
But he did that against Italy right? 100% better option to go for.
 
We all want Rashford back to that devastating period mid last season. It makes it more frustrating knowing that he’s capable of it.

but you also need to trust your players and whilst it would be amazing for Rashford to hit some form, does anyone really trust that it won’t be for a limited period before resorting back to where we are now. That alone, for me, is reason enough for us not to be reliant on him.
 
But he did that against Italy right? 100% better option to go for.

He didn’t have to dribble past anyone. He just ran into the space in the box there. I’m talking about the situations where he’s 1 v 2 at the edge of the box and just runs into them.
 
I genuinely don't think he can do anything right at the moment. Horrendously out of form and looks like he has the footballing IQ of a Sunday league player right now. Hopefully the only way is up from here.
 
Think he might be the most overrated player in recent history.
 
Cannot understand what is going on with him at the moment. There seems to be no middle ground with him, he either plays like one of the best footballers in the world or he plays like a man who has zero interest in football. It’s all in his head, maybe he has a weak mentality, he clearly has more than enough ability, he showed that last season.
 
He most probably gets paid more than half of the Copenhagen’s team tonight and it’s embarrassing how much our underachievers are paid..
 
He's even worse than Rooney when he was blowing hot and cold.

At Rooney's worst, his touch was shocking, but at least his passing and finishing were reliable.
 
I genuinely don't think he can do anything right at the moment. Horrendously out of form and looks like he has the footballing IQ of a Sunday league player right now. Hopefully the only way is up from here.

He's always been that.

Two moments summed him up, received the ball 40 yards out on the, he just runs centrally and shoots. Then when he just stood looking at rhe fullback like he'd glitched, with Reguillon ready to overlap behind.

He's about as one dimensionsal as it gets.
 
Obvious groans from the crowd every time he got the ball wide and started his standoff routine against the defender.
 
He is playing terribly… there is no doubt about it.

But for me, there is a subtle detail that is getting overlooked.

it might not seem like it, but playing on the left in a possession based 4141 and on the left in a counter attacking 4231 is significantly different.

Rashford is a specialist. He is an inside left channel player, who suits football on the break… with an overlapping full back taking a defender away to allow his 1 on 1 dribbles…. and he is very effective in that system.

4141 is far to slow in the build up for him, and forces him far too wide, where he is doubled up on, and forces him to be involved in intricate build up. Playing to all of his weaknesses and none of his strengths.

Rashford will never play well in this system… but he is not only player that the system doesn’t suit (Hi Bruno)
Interesting take but it begs the question, if he can only play really well in one set up or, as others have said, if he has Luke Shaw doing a lot of work on the left then is he really worth 350K a week? Sounds like a repeat of the whole Pogba and Bruno situations- "you HAVE to play them this way or it doesn't work" etc.

He's having a poor season so far, i expect he'll go on a good run where he looks great (maybe under yet another new manager :rolleyes:) and then we'll be back to this situation again in a year or so. We wouldn't have achieved top 4 without him last season that's pretty much certain but he's a hard player to figure out and very frustrating to watch.
 
Cannot understand what is going on with him at the moment. There seems to be no middle ground with him, he either plays like one of the best footballers in the world or he plays like a man who has zero interest in football. It’s all in his head, maybe he has a weak mentality, he clearly has more than enough ability, he showed that last season.

The weird thing is that his mentality was as good as it gets for a young player breaking into the team.
 
One of the few good things he did tonight (possibly the only thing) was in the 2nd half when Bruno played him in behind on the left and he was able to use his pace to beat the full back, get to the byline and cut the ball back, and Eriksen nearly scored from it.

Right now that's the best way for him to be any way effective for us, because playing the ball into his feet at the moment is a waste of time.
 
If Pep was stuck with him, day one he'd be working on him to expand his game. When it's not going well it's something to fall back on and be useful for the team and improves your whole game. I'm not exaggerating to say he's trying the same thing over and over taking on 3-5 players and losing it in the box

Brilliant last season and was glad he signed. it's sad to to see him so limited and seemingly down.

His goal for England was a copy of the goal he scored for us against Arsenal, they rarely work but are great to watch. You could go through a spell of a few working like flipping a coin and landing heads 20 times, you get a batch of goals then it's back to normal getting blocked, running into players.
 
Watching us this season Rashford and Bruno really are going head to head on worst footballing IQ of all time. It's quite a battle.

Please just fecking score a goal and go on a purple patch. I'm begging you.
 
He's just not a good footballer. Having pace and having a purple patch every 4 years doesn't make you a player.
 
Your metrics comment is absolute, total bullshit. The majority of Rashford's metrics are actually better than last year's.

His PR team in the match thread are persistent. I'll give them that... My orginial comment was just saying Rashford is having a poor season by all metrics. Have I gone mad or something and I'm just not seeing it?
 
Interesting take but it begs the question, if he can only play really well in one set up or, as others have said, if he has Luke Shaw doing a lot of work on the left then is he really worth 350K a week? Sounds like a repeat of the whole Pogba and Bruno situations- "you HAVE to play them this way or it doesn't work" etc.

He's having a poor season so far, i expect he'll go on a good run where he looks great (maybe under yet another new manager :rolleyes:) and then we'll be back to this situation again in a year or so. We wouldn't have achieved top 4 without him last season that's pretty much certain but he's a hard player to figure out and very frustrating to watch.
The 'needs a fullback to make space for him' bit made me chuckle
 
Like any player he has phases where it isn’t happening. Unfortunately he can’t just go back to basics to get himself out of it, as he’s bad at the basics. Poor decision making, first touch and close control. I’m sure he’ll hit a purple patch but in the long term it’s very concerning.

Turning into a fairly long phase, i'd say. 9 matches in the league, 761 mins, 1 goal and 1 assist. Apart from his glorious phase after the world cup last season, which lasted around 16 matches and was crucial to us getting into the top 4, his form has been a disaster both in terms of performances and goals/assists.
 
I think we desperately need to only have one of Bruno and Rashford on the pitch at a time for a while. It doesn't even matter which one, but we can't keep trying to carry both of them like this.

Attempting to play both of them into form at the same time while they're in the absolute doldrums could be what costs Ten Hag his job.
 
He's even worse than Rooney when he was blowing hot and cold.

At Rooney's worst, his touch was shocking, but at least his passing and finishing were reliable.

Terrible comparison to make.

When Rooney's game/performances dropped a bit he would still work his socks off for the team, sometimes maybe even overcompensating for it.

Rashford on the other hand completely hides, seemingly doesn't even want the ball or lacks a real fight to win it.

It's so infuriating because the talent is there. The way he's playing (/sulking) at the minute, indicates to me that he's only half heartedly taking the tactical instruction on board.....

"I'll do what the manager asks, play where he wants me to play, but I'm not bought into this 100%"
 
But why though? I don’t get this level. He seems to have this one season on, one season off routine most of his career.
 
Up there with Di Maria as one of the least likeable United players ever. Get him out of the fecking team.
 
Not to mention the amount of times he avoids going for a 50-50, he steps back and hopes the defender mistimes it so he can run in behind.
 
He is lazy and everything that others are saying, but also he's just never been that good. He had a couple of decent periods, but overall he's a half-decent attacker who isn't a striker but isn't skillful enough to be a winger and doesn't have the decision making either. He's just a runner when he can be bothered, who sometimes knows how to score at the end of the runs.
 
He most probably gets paid more than half of the Copenhagen’s team tonight and it’s embarrassing how much our underachievers are paid..

More than their whole team I’d say. It may be a coincidence but he hasn’t looked at all arsed since the Sancho stuff has come out. Back to how he looked when he was fit and disinterested in the past. I think/hope the penny will drop again soon and the rest of the season is good from him. Lord knows we need him
 
I get all the naysayers when it comes to Rashford. I agree he's in really bad form and has been for years (excluding last season) but who do you play instead of him? Garnacho when played from the start doesn't perform and fluffed his lines tonight ala Rashford, when coming on as a sub. All the other forwards look to be out of form. I'm starting to think it's a managerial/coaching issue because how are so many players looking like shit and the team doesn't look as though it knows what its doing or how it's supposed to play. I'm beginning to doubt ETH, I'm afraid. The purchase of Anthony I can not forgive him for. It was clearly his buy.
 
Appalling this evening.
Not unexpected given recent “performances “
Needs dropping immediately.
Garnacho made many of the same mistakes but he made them whilst trying something semi useful.
Looks disinterested and not bothered at all.
 
Both he and Antony stops every attack, surely that must be instructions?? How on earth can it continue if it isnt?
 
Think he might be the most overrated player in recent history.
He is by far. The reputation he has garnered is insane given how inconsistent and technically average he is. He’s the Shahid Afridi of football.
 
For such a clever boy off the pitch, he plays like a complete dumbarse on it.

But as with every United player it’s always the system or the players around him that are the problem.
 
Terrible comparison to make.

When Rooney's game/performances dropped a bit he would still work his socks off for the team, sometimes maybe even overcompensating for it.

Rashford on the other hand completely hides, seemingly doesn't even want the ball or lacks a real fight to win it.

It's so infuriating because the talent is there. The way he's playing (/sulking) at the minute, indicates to me that he's only half heartedly taking the tactical instruction on board.....

"I'll do what the manager asks, play where he wants me to play, but I'm not bought into this 100%"

Yeah I think you're spot one here.

He doesn't look like he buys into what the manager's asked him to do, and he certainly isn't over compensating for his poor form by covering extra yards.

I've said it before though, I'm not sure he enjoys playing football, certainly not at United. And whilst I don't blame him to some degree, being the mess we are, it does affect his likeability. As a person he seems a really decent lad, but the way he plays is devoid of any enthusiasm so often. I think the pressure is too much, and the manager should take him out from time to time until the team finds some stability and form.
 
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