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2023-24 Performances

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4.4 Season Average Rating
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43
Goals
8
Assists
5
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jem said:
I've always found this statement so empty. Just by watching their respective performances on the pitch, you'd swear Wayne Rooney had been the wool United fan, not Rashford. And yes Rooney flirted with the idea of leaving, but then so has Rashford, so I really struggle to see a player who gives his all for the club. As much as I hated him, Gerrard came across as that kind of player; Rashford not so much.
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I wouldn’t say always empty but I get your point. Players and loyalty can seem fickle at times but I’ve seen him play injured for us and seen him genuinely upset when we struggle. I’ve seen him attempt to communicate with fans when most players don’t. I feel people judge him based on perception rather than anything else. Also even if he did see what offers there were, pragmatic really, he stayed in the end.
 
Alex99 said:
Don't know what's going on with him but his laziness is inexcusable.

10 minutes tonight and he barely broke into a jog.
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This. Infuriated me. This is your chance to battle the doubters and prove you are ready to fight for your spot.
Looked half arsed even when he was fresh-legged for 10 minutes.

Something is definitely up, but whatever it is - it's unprofessional.
 
Borninthe80ts said:
He has stated this in the past.
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Robbie Keane confessed his childhood support for about five clubs during his career.

Footballers saying they love the club they're playing for doesn't really mean much.
 
luke511 said:
Jimmy Saville raised £40 million for charity, it’s not always an honest reflection on a person’s personality. I think he’s become a very entitled and arrogant person, there’s no other way he’d behave the way he has on the pitch at times in his career. He got subbed vs Newcastle after a horrible display in every aspect and his response to it was “what the feck am I doing here?”, to me that shows his head is well inserted up his own arse.
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Really Jim Saville? I get the point but can’t agree. Saville was in the field of fundraising and celebrity like that. Marcus was not. He put himself out there to speak for others which to me is considered and not a characteristic I’d associate with arrogance. What makes him arrogant and entitled? Apart from poor displays? And is that an actual quote? Or just your take on his reactions?
 
hobbers said:
Vaguely said he wasnt in the right headspace some of the time, yeah...

Same as all of us.
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No your downplaying it to suit the narrative. True a lot of people experience mental health issues of varying degrees , however we all react differently. He stated the impact was substantial.
 
Alex99 said:
Robbie Keane confessed his childhood support for about five clubs during his career.

Footballers saying they love the club they're playing for doesn't really mean much.
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I meant he stated mental health issues not loyalty to the club. You quoted incorrectly.
 
Borninthe80ts said:
I meant he stated mental health issues not loyalty to the club. You quoted incorrectly.
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My bad on that.

I don't remember him clearly stating he struggled with mental health issues, although I could have just missed it.

I do remember him saying he wasn't in the right headspace at times, which isn't the same thing.

Either way, he needs a spell out of the team for everyone's sakes.
 
Borninthe80ts said:
Really Jim Saville? I get the point but can’t agree. Saville was in the field of fundraising and celebrity like that. Marcus was not. He put himself out there to speak for others which to me is considered and not a characteristic I’d associate with arrogance. What makes him arrogant and entitled? Apart from poor displays? And is that an actual quote? Or just your take on his reactions?
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This is solely based on his behaviour on the pitch. He chose to not defend repeatedly and walked past his marker, and then shows anger and confusion when he’s taken off, that screams entitlement and arrogance.
 
Alex99 said:
My bad on that.

I don't remember him clearly stating he struggled with mental health issues, although I could have just missed it.

I do remember him saying he wasn't in the right headspace at times, which isn't the same thing.

Either way, he needs a spell out of the team for everyone's sakes.
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It’s all good
He had an interview after the World Cup and I’ve seen other snippets when he has gone into more detail though I’m not finding them at the minute. If I do I will post. Anyway the issue wasn’t his form more the apparent hatred from some fans over a guy in poor form.
I can see why the manager tried to play him into form as Marcus can just start to flow, however time on the bench is best for all currently. If a player is clearly in better form then they deserve to start.
 
luke511 said:
This is solely based on his behaviour on the pitch. He chose to not defend repeatedly and walked past his marker, and then shows anger and confusion when he’s taken off, that screams entitlement and arrogance.
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You keep saying choose, just because an attacker passes a player doesn’t mean he chooses to let it happen. There can be reasons other than what your suggesting, ie him being to lazy to track the run or not caring. You say repeatedly but I’ve also seen him track back too. Personally unless we’re winning I don’t want players to be happy coming off. Unless you can point to disrespect to either the manager to staff it’s a non issue. I would ask how you know how he was confused but I’m sure this be a negative interpretation of his behaviour too.
 
Borninthe80ts said:
I meant he stated mental health issues not loyalty to the club. You quoted incorrectly.
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This is the quote:

“I think to be honest it is a complete different energy around the club and training ground. that puts me in a better headspace and I feel really motivated. I struggled mentally and with things off the pitch. That’s the biggest difference,” said Rashford, as relayed by the Daily Mail.
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An athlete who "struggled mentally" is not the same thing as someone having mental health issues. If anything, it trivialises mental illness to leap to that assumption.
 
Borninthe80ts said:
You keep saying choose, just because an attacker passes a player doesn’t mean he chooses to let it happen. There can be reasons other than what your suggesting, ie him being to lazy to track the run or not caring. You say repeatedly but I’ve also seen him track back too. Personally unless we’re winning I don’t want players to be happy coming off. Unless you can point to disrespect to either the manager to staff it’s a non issue. I would ask how you know how he was confused but I’m sure this be a negative interpretation of his behaviour too.
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That’s the thing, he did exactly that vs Newcastle. There was an occasion where Gordon had possession, Livramento was the only Newcastle player available for him to pass to, Rashford was walking back from behind Livramento therefore he had a perfect view of Gordon’s options, and he chose to walk right past Livramento giving him plenty of space knowing that he was leaving that option open for Newcastle, instead of cutting that pass off and giving us a better chance of winning back possession. This is why a lot of fans have turned on him.

After he’s subbed he turns to Reguilon on the bench and says “What the feck am I doing here?”, a display of anger and confusion.
 
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Leonzo1 said:
Apparently There is no limit for the amount of excuses being made for his pathetic performances. Would be the first one out the door if it was up to me. That kind of non existent effort has no place in this team no matter what happens in his personal life or physical condition. I'm sure that if there was really a problem the medical team and the manager wouldn't have played him. This is all about his attitude and mentality. Or lack of to be precise.
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I get what you're trying to say, but we shouldn't underestimate the effect of personal issues on performance. I think Rashford needs to be out of the team for a while. Other players (Garnacho) deserve to play now. If it is something in his personal life, give him an extended time off like Sancho and Antony to solve his problems first.
 
luke511 said:
That’s the thing, he did exactly that vs Newcastle. There was an occasion where Gordon had possession, Livramento was the only Newcastle player available for him to pass to, Rashford was walking back from behind Livramento therefore he had a perfect view of Gordon’s options, and he chose to walk right past Livramento knowing that he was leaving that option open for Newcastle, instead of cutting that pass off and giving us a better chance of winning back possession. This is why a lot of fans have turned on him.
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If you could find the time stamp I could have a look myself. I can’t try and defend every decision that he makes as that wasn’t the point of my initial statements but let take this route anyway. There’s a lot of assumptions about what he could/should have done. Who’s to say he wasn’t trying to cut out a passing angle or mark someone else? As I say I’ve not seen the clip or am I trying to defend actions where I think he could have done better as this applies to all players. What I was “ staggered “ by to quote my original post was the level of anger and personal attacks. Supporters support in different ways I suppose.
 
Borninthe80ts said:
If you could find the time stamp I could have a look myself. I can’t try and defend every decision that he makes as that wasn’t the point of my initial statements but let take this route anyway. There’s a lot of assumptions about what he could/should have done. Who’s to say he wasn’t trying to cut out a passing angle or mark someone else? As I say I’ve not seen the clip or am I trying to defend actions where I think he could have done better as this applies to all players. What I was “ staggered “ by to quote my original post was the level of anger and personal attacks. Supporters support in different ways I suppose.
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Every example of it on twitter has been removed through copyright. He isn’t cutting another passing angle or marking someone else unfortunately, just deliberately letting Newcastle keep possession in the final third at 0-0. I’m pretty sure it was just before they scored too.
 
Hernandez - BFA said:
This. Infuriated me. This is your chance to battle the doubters and prove you are ready to fight for your spot.
Looked half arsed even when he was fresh-legged for 10 minutes.

Something is definitely up, but whatever it is - it's unprofessional.
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Yeah I was so disappointed in him. Ten Hag basically offered him a chance to come on and show the critics they were wrong, but he jogged about and looked like he wanted to be anywhere else.
Love Rashford but his attitude and workrate at the moment is unacceptable.
 
luke511 said:
Every example of it on twitter has been removed through copyright. He isn’t cutting another passing angle or marking someone else unfortunately, just deliberately letting Newcastle keep possession in the final third at 0-0. I’m pretty sure it was just before they scored too.
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Ok cool Marcus deliberately doesn’t track back and intentionally does things to help us lose.
 
Borninthe80ts said:
Cool. I’ll bow to your knowledge of Marcus’s intentions.
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You're micro analysing the actual point. His choice of deliberate as a word to describe the play was poor. But the general jyst is clear. It wouldn't be unfair to say Rashford showed utter indifference if Newcastle were probing in the final third or not.
 
Dorris said:
This is the worst type of response in a debate. Poor.
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What am I supposed to comment over? He said he deliberately didn’t run back and I argued the opposite. I chose to leave it there rather than continue in circles.
 
I am also sick right now, get well soon Marcus. And don’t play again this year if you can’t find your form. Thanks. Millions of fans
 
VP89 said:
You're micro analysing the actual point. His choice of deliberate as a word to describe the play was poor. But the general jyst is clear. It wouldn't be unfair to say Rashford showed utter indifference if Newcastle were probing in the final third or not.
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No Im taking people at their word, and that was the point. I acknowledged that the perception of him not tracking back was that he didn’t care and disputed that and gave reasons why. If you think different I’m not really going to try to convince you. Again, not defending his form more surprised at the reasons assumed for it.
 
Borninthe80ts said:
Really Jim Saville? I get the point but can’t agree. Saville was in the field of fundraising and celebrity like that. Marcus was not. He put himself out there to speak for others which to me is considered and not a characteristic I’d associate with arrogance. What makes him arrogant and entitled? Apart from poor displays? And is that an actual quote? Or just your take on his reactions?
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A few weeks ago I read an article (from July) about Rashford leaving his Rolls Royce on a double yellow lines while shopping. There was even a picture of the car on the double yellow lines.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...Rolls-Royce-double-yellow-lines-Cheshire.html

That particular law exists for a reason. To think it doesn't apply to you isn't great. Perhaps it is the only time he has ever done it but seems unlikely to me.

As to whether Rashford is any more arrogant and entitled than your typical professional footballer earning an obscene salary, I have no idea. Never met him. Seems a shy person, not particularly intelligent. Possibly struggles with the attention when not performing well.
 
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kundalini said:
A few weeks ago I read an article about Rashford leaving his Rolls Royce (might have been one of his other expensive cars) on a double yellow line while shopping. There was even a picture of the car on the double yellow line. That particular law exists for a reason. To think it doesn't apply to you isn't great. Perhaps it is the only time he has ever done it but seems unlikely to me.

As to whether Rashford is any more arrogant and entitled than your typical professional footballer earning an obscene salary, I have no idea. Never met him. Seems a shy person, not particularly intelligent. Possibly struggles with the attention when not performing well.
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Ok he makes a lot of money and parked on a yellow line. I’m not sure if he thought he could or not but I’ll tally it in his negative column for judgement day. I’ll not argue with the other assumptions either.
A lot of people in the public eye do continually struggle with similar issues, as Owen Farrell can attest too.
 
Ten Hag's getting better at managing the media publicly while telling the players to zip it internally
 
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