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There's a compilation floating around somewhere with the majority of the team doing pre season work. Literally just come off insta watching Sancho do shooting drills.Name them
There's a compilation floating around somewhere with the majority of the team doing pre season work. Literally just come off insta watching Sancho do shooting drills.Name them
Exactly what?Exactly.
Is he that talented though? Outside of speed what is he good at?
Interesting retweet by Mike Phelan. He's also liked the tweet.
Probably just mad because what would they use him for. Trainer/coach annoyed that a player wants to train outside of the season without them". You can easily spin it that way. I have nothing against players wanting to train in the off-season with their own trainers, every elite athlete does it. Also Marcus has been off for awhile because of his illness and he didn't play in the nations league. He definitely needs to stay in shape, I'd be more worried if he was still on vacation.
Those who say that Rashford is just pace probably don't understand what it means to be a professional footballer. Regardless of how you have felt regarding his performances last season, his talent is certainly there. Let me list down his positive and negative attributes.
Positives (besides pace)
- Dribbling - He mainly dribbles using pace with a few tricks in his locker.
- Ball Control - He has a pretty good first touch based on some of his goals, especially those from long passes. His general ball control while dribbling or with possession is also quite good.
- Strength - Not sure if people have noticed but he can be quite strong. I remember him holding off Kante during our 2-0 win against Chelsea in 16/17 season.
- Heading - His heading is good, especially if you look at his goals from the 19/20 season.
- Off the Ball - He is capable of tracking back to defend, pressing and getting into spaces for key offensive passes.
- Positioning (Offensive) - Overlaps with the off the ball attribute, where he is capable of positioning himself for crosses or passes.
- Shooting - He has a powerful shooting technique which is best when it is further away from the goal.
- Stamina - His stamina is quite good for a forward, which is evident from his pressing.
Negatives
- Finishing - He tends to rely on shooting power rather than placement, which is why he cannot be the main striker.
- Decision-Making/Intelligence - He tends to be individualistic when he has possession in the final third, where he can make bad decisions (e.g. should have passed to Cavani during the 0-0 draw at Anfield in the 20/21 season).
- Passing - His link-up play is good in the final third, but overall he tends to pull off badly timed passes.
- Mentality - His biggest issue. When things don't go right for him, he will lose focus on the field and he is not able to get back on track.
- Injuries - Tends to get into serious injuries.
He is a bit similar to Ronaldo in his Real Madrid years, minus the mentality. A lot of people and even footballing professionals underestimate what mentality can do to a player's performance. If ETH and his coaching staff can keep him in shape and motivated, he will be a deadly weapon. Probably his best position is a left or right forward in a 4-3-3 shape or a winger cutting into the final third.
Dribbles into blind alleys.
Never looks like he is fully in control of his actions on the ball.
Gets bullied and outfought by many players.
Would have to make a run into the box to get a header off.
Hasn't worked hard off the ball in about 3 years offensively or defensively.
In attack his lack of intelligent movement of the ball is a massive part of why this Utd team struggled to break down deep defensive lines.
His shooting is wayward, erratic and his cut in and shot/cross from the left is basically his go to trick.
Haven't seen much in 3 years to suggest he's got much stamina left.
Even when he was scoring, those goals were masking what were some truly horrific performances.
And as for comparing him to Ronaldo...........
He is a bit similar to Ronaldo in his Real Madrid years, minus the mentality
Looks like a judgment based on what you have seen last season. Like I said, mentality can make a big difference. Let the manager judge the player rather than us fans, who have no idea what can happen behind the scenes.
- Heading - His heading is good, especially if you look at his goals from the 19/20 season.
Positives (besides pace)
- Dribbling - He mainly dribbles using pace with a few tricks in his locker. - His dribbling is atrocious! It's rinse / repeat stuff, head down running into a channel. Zero intelligence.
- Off the Ball - He is capable of tracking back to defend, pressing and getting into spaces for key offensive passes. Not so much last year, he was a right lazy sod!
- Positioning (Offensive) - Overlaps with the off the ball attribute, where he is capable of positioning himself for crosses or passes. His positioning for a goal scorer is poor, some wide play positioning is OK though.
- Shooting - He has a powerful shooting technique which is best when it is further away from the goal. Good power as you say but his accuracy is really poor.
- Stamina - His stamina is quite good for a forward, which is evident from his pressing. Ties into the sentiment above, work rate has been dreadful.
Negatives
- Finishing - He tends to rely on shooting power rather than placement, which is why he cannot be the main striker. Agreed
- Decision-Making/Intelligence - He tends to be individualistic when he has possession in the final third, where he can make bad decisions (e.g. should have passed to Cavani during the 0-0 draw at Anfield in the 20/21 season). Agreed - His football intelligence is lacking, his decision making awful. Never seems to learn, he very much seems to always want the glory himself.
- Passing - His link-up play is good in the final third, but overall he tends to pull off badly timed passes. His passing has been terrible for a long time, loses possession so frequently.
- Mentality - His biggest issue. When things don't go right for him, he will lose focus on the field and he is not able to get back on track. Seems to have a bad attitude of late, the off field antics have taken over completely, zero chance a top coach puts up with it, he'd be sold instantly.
- Injuries - Tends to get into serious injuries. Serious concern for a player his age.
I agree with a lot of your sentiments but I do think you're being very kind to him too.
If were perfectly honest he's hit his limit, he hasn't improved much from his debut, its pretty much the same player. If anything he has regressed due to the injuries, a weak mentality and his focus completely elsewhere with his own off field interests taking over.
Ultimately it all adds up to a player that should probably be sold next summer.
Hard to believe the entire post isn't a wum but this one point especially is funny.
Rashford has scored 2 headers in the last 4 seasons.
I agree with a lot of your sentiments but I do think you're being very kind to him too.
If were perfectly honest he's hit his limit, he hasn't improved much from his debut, its pretty much the same player. If anything he has regressed due to the injuries, a weak mentality and his focus completely elsewhere with his own off field interests taking over.
Ultimately it all adds up to a player that should probably be sold next summer.
It’s really make or break for him this year.
He still has some good will amongst some, but unless he delivers this year he’ll be moved on next summer and he’ll just be another Welbeck, Cleverly etc.
He can do right by shutting up and playing better. He gives the impression of someone who thinks he’s been wronged and what’s shit about his game must be someone else’s fault.
Being played ‘out of position’ being ‘attacked’ because it was suggested he ‘concrete on his football’ , having to ‘overcome his natural shyness’ to talk to the manager. Now it’s that he lacked ‘guidance’
I doubt he’ll ever turn things around because it doesn’t appear as if he thinks he’s doing anything wrong
Those who say that Rashford is just pace probably don't understand what it means to be a professional footballer. Regardless of how you have felt regarding his performances last season, his talent is certainly there. Let me list down his positive and negative attributes.
Positives (besides pace)
- Dribbling - He mainly dribbles using pace with a few tricks in his locker.
- Ball Control - He has a pretty good first touch based on some of his goals, especially those from long passes. His general ball control while dribbling or with possession is also quite good.
- Strength - Not sure if people have noticed but he can be quite strong. I remember him holding off Kante during our 2-0 win against Chelsea in 16/17 season.
- Heading - His heading is good, especially if you look at his goals from the 19/20 season.
- Off the Ball - He is capable of tracking back to defend, pressing and getting into spaces for key offensive passes.
- Positioning (Offensive) - Overlaps with the off the ball attribute, where he is capable of positioning himself for crosses or passes.
- Shooting - He has a powerful shooting technique which is best when it is further away from the goal.
- Stamina - His stamina is quite good for a forward, which is evident from his pressing.
Negatives
- Finishing - He tends to rely on shooting power rather than placement, which is why he cannot be the main striker.
- Decision-Making/Intelligence - He tends to be individualistic when he has possession in the final third, where he can make bad decisions (e.g. should have passed to Cavani during the 0-0 draw at Anfield in the 20/21 season).
- Passing - His link-up play is good in the final third, but overall he tends to pull off badly timed passes.
- Mentality - His biggest issue. When things don't go right for him, he will lose focus on the field and he is not able to get back on track.
- Injuries - Tends to get into serious injuries.
He is a bit similar to Ronaldo in his Real Madrid years, minus the mentality. A lot of people and even footballing professionals underestimate what mentality can do to a player's performance. If ETH and his coaching staff can keep him in shape and motivated, he will be a deadly weapon. Probably his best position is a left or right forward in a 4-3-3 shape or a winger cutting into the final third.
Wouldn't be surprised if he plays well the start of the season, but may down tools again if he misses out on the England World Cup squad and United have had a patchy start.
It’s really make or break for him this year.
He still has some good will amongst some, but unless he delivers this year he’ll be moved on next summer and he’ll just be another Welbeck, Cleverly etc.
Agree that it is make or break for him. Talent is there but without mentality, it is pretty useless. Let's see how he responds this season.
Well it’s convenient for us if he can get his act together. Why wouldn’t we want players to improve? Otherwise you’re saying that you want new ones all the time?Like a new signing.How convient for Glazers.
Well it’s convenient for us if he can get his act together. Why wouldn’t we want players to improve? Otherwise you’re saying that you want new ones all the time?
Im not sure what I wrote there that inspired a rant.Untill we are successful again no player should be guaranteed an infinite amount of time to improve or find themselves. We shouldn’t be constrained by PR or by giving players terrible contracts. It should always be the best player for the job at that given moment and certainly if you’re not doing it for years you should be replaced, you would in any other business. It’s been far too easy around here for too long. Players like Rashford and Martial are coasting, if you can even call it that, on some of the biggest money in the league for years now. If you were aggressively looking to trim the fat you could cut both and replace with one much harder working and resilient starter and a much cheaper youth player and get much more value to the team overall.
Samuel Luckhurst burner account for sureThose who say that Rashford is just pace probably don't understand what it means to be a professional footballer. Regardless of how you have felt regarding his performances last season, his talent is certainly there. Let me list down his positive and negative attributes.
Positives (besides pace)
- Dribbling - He mainly dribbles using pace with a few tricks in his locker.
- Ball Control - He has a pretty good first touch based on some of his goals, especially those from long passes. His general ball control while dribbling or with possession is also quite good.
- Strength - Not sure if people have noticed but he can be quite strong. I remember him holding off Kante during our 2-0 win against Chelsea in 16/17 season.
- Heading - His heading is good, especially if you look at his goals from the 19/20 season.
- Off the Ball - He is capable of tracking back to defend, pressing and getting into spaces for key offensive passes.
- Positioning (Offensive) - Overlaps with the off the ball attribute, where he is capable of positioning himself for crosses or passes.
- Shooting - He has a powerful shooting technique which is best when it is further away from the goal.
- Stamina - His stamina is quite good for a forward, which is evident from his pressing.
Negatives
- Finishing - He tends to rely on shooting power rather than placement, which is why he cannot be the main striker.
- Decision-Making/Intelligence - He tends to be individualistic when he has possession in the final third, where he can make bad decisions (e.g. should have passed to Cavani during the 0-0 draw at Anfield in the 20/21 season).
- Passing - His link-up play is good in the final third, but overall he tends to pull off badly timed passes.
- Mentality - His biggest issue. When things don't go right for him, he will lose focus on the field and he is not able to get back on track.
- Injuries - Tends to get into serious injuries.
He is a bit similar to Ronaldo in his Real Madrid years, minus the mentality. A lot of people and even footballing professionals underestimate what mentality can do to a player's performance. If ETH and his coaching staff can keep him in shape and motivated, he will be a deadly weapon. Probably his best position is a left or right forward in a 4-3-3 shape or a winger cutting into the final third.
Those who say that Rashford is just pace probably don't understand what it means to be a professional footballer. Regardless of how you have felt regarding his performances last season, his talent is certainly there. Let me list down his positive and negative attributes.
Positives (besides pace)
- Dribbling - He mainly dribbles using pace with a few tricks in his locker.
- Ball Control - He has a pretty good first touch based on some of his goals, especially those from long passes. His general ball control while dribbling or with possession is also quite good.
- Strength - Not sure if people have noticed but he can be quite strong. I remember him holding off Kante during our 2-0 win against Chelsea in 16/17 season.
- Heading - His heading is good, especially if you look at his goals from the 19/20 season.
- Off the Ball - He is capable of tracking back to defend, pressing and getting into spaces for key offensive passes.
- Positioning (Offensive) - Overlaps with the off the ball attribute, where he is capable of positioning himself for crosses or passes.
- Shooting - He has a powerful shooting technique which is best when it is further away from the goal.
- Stamina - His stamina is quite good for a forward, which is evident from his pressing.
Negatives
- Finishing - He tends to rely on shooting power rather than placement, which is why he cannot be the main striker.
- Decision-Making/Intelligence - He tends to be individualistic when he has possession in the final third, where he can make bad decisions (e.g. should have passed to Cavani during the 0-0 draw at Anfield in the 20/21 season).
- Passing - His link-up play is good in the final third, but overall he tends to pull off badly timed passes.
- Mentality - His biggest issue. When things don't go right for him, he will lose focus on the field and he is not able to get back on track.
- Injuries - Tends to get into serious injuries.
He is a bit similar to Ronaldo in his Real Madrid years, minus the mentality. A lot of people and even footballing professionals underestimate what mentality can do to a player's performance. If ETH and his coaching staff can keep him in shape and motivated, he will be a deadly weapon. Probably his best position is a left or right forward in a 4-3-3 shape or a winger cutting into the final third.
Yes because football players are electronic appliances and bad form over a year is like them being “broken” or somethingStill I see post after post people accurately writing about all Rashford's failing then saying " he should probably be sold NEXT summer"
If your TV or microwave blows up do you wait 12m before buying a new one in the hope it will magically start working again.
Rashford will never be the player we need him to be. Absolutely no chance.
My analogy as Im sure you are aware of was to stress the stupidity of waiting another year on a lost cause.Yes because football players are electronic appliances and bad form over a year is like them being “broken” or something
My analogy as Im sure you are aware of was to stress the stupidity of waiting another year on a lost cause.
I absolutely stick by the 3rd line of my post. If Im wrong feel free to come on and roast me for it. I wont hold my breath.
Out of interest what do we need Rashford to be?My analogy as Im sure you are aware of was to stress the stupidity of waiting another year on a lost cause.
I absolutely stick by the 3rd line of my post. If Im wrong feel free to come on and roast me for it. I wont hold my breath.
At £200k pw we should be expecting close to world class however that's the club stupidity.Out of interest what do we need Rashford to be?
True, same could be said for nearly every player in the team as well. Would say though season before last and the one prior to that Rashford arguably did fit your criteria did he not?At £200k pw we should be expecting close to world class however that's the club stupidity.
I would expect any Utd starter to be among the best in the PL in his position. Otherwise how can we hope to get anywhere near City or liverpool because lets be honest, their players fit that criteria. 2022 Rashford would struggle in a championship team
The fact that you are asking just shows how low our standards and fan expectations have fallen. Sad times