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it’s 2022 you still boasting about that?
it’s 2022 you still boasting about that?
That‘s because Son is used as winger or wide player, that’s his job to constantly on the ball running defenders and creating chances. Rashford came on as a striker so of course it’s different case that we expect someone else to give him the service to score goals. No service, a striker will struggle to score, common sense.No service my balls, he came on as an old impact sub and made one good run up the right wing then did nothing for 40 minutes until he bumbled his way through at the end. If you look at someone like Son he’s constantly on the ball running defenders getting shots off and creating chances, this is the standard we should expect .
Thierry Henry.Name a striker/CF who cannot head a ball well? And Marcus's off ball work rate has plummeted. You'd think his work rate should be between closer to Bruno or Cavani when fit, but it is closer to Martial.
Honestly, the last time I remember being really impressed with him was his hatttrick against Leipzig which was ......almost 2 years ago?Just curious..
Can someone remember the last time he had a good game?
I'm not talking about coming on as a sub and scoring like West Ham or Leicester earlier in the season. When did he start a game, and impress for the majority of the time he was on the field?
Son regularly plays as a striker and he’s more comparable to Rashford than most people.That‘s because Son is used as winger or wide player, that’s his job to constantly on the ball running defenders and creating chances. Rashford came on as a striker so of course it’s different case that we expect someone else to give him the service to score goals. No service, a striker will struggle to score, common sense.
More concerned with looking good on social media and holding himself up as some sort of saviour that being a good footballer. Egotistical moron.
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Their striker is Kane. We are talking about Rashford came on as sub vs Leicester as a striker.Son regularly plays as a striker and he’s more comparable to Rashford than most people.
Oh look, Rashford's mum has turned upI swear to god people like you are a total and utter joke. Criticism of his performances is one thing and is perfectly fine but to even bring up that other BS just shows you for what you are mate. Some people are just decent people and like to help those less fortunate than themselves.
Tories everywhere on this thread.
And Ronaldo is our striker what’s your point?Their striker is Kane. We are talking about Rashford came on as sub vs Leicester as a striker.
My point is that you can’t expect a striker with no service to score goals, we barely create chances for him in the Leicester game. And when we did once for him, which he could have score that as a winner but Elanga ruined it. I don’t even know why Ronaldo is even in this discussion when he‘s not even involved in Leicester game. Do you not realise that I replied your post that was referring to the Leicester game?And Ronaldo is our striker what’s your point?
Never voted tory in my life "mate".I swear to god people like you are a total and utter joke. Criticism of his performances is one thing and is perfectly fine but to even bring up that other BS just shows you for what you are mate. Some people are just decent people and like to help those less fortunate than themselves.
Tories everywhere on this thread.
I can't. It's been ages.Just curious..
Can someone remember the last time he had a good game?
I'm not talking about coming on as a sub and scoring like West Ham or Leicester earlier in the season. When did he start a game, and impress for the majority of the time he was on the field?
It’s honestly bizarre that people have a problem with Rashford raising money for charity. Like what on earth could your thought process even be, seriously give it a rest.More concerned with looking good on social media and holding himself up as some sort of saviour that being a good footballer. Egotistical moron.
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Did he have a shot on target? Or off target? Or even create a chance?My point is that you can’t expect a striker with no service to score goals, we barely create chances for him in the Leicester game. And when we did once for him, which he could have score that as a winner but Elanga ruined it. I don’t even know why Ronaldo is even in this discussion when he‘s not even involved in Leicester game. Do you not realise that I replied your post that was referring to the Leicester game?
He ruined a clear goalscoring opportunity for Elanga too. He gets the ball and instead of passing to an open Elanga runs into him. It's barely a sequence that should be used to defend him. Rashford's problem has little to do with service, Pogba was more involved in our buildups in the same position and he isn't a striker and is way less mobile. Also modern strikers aren't reliant on service to see the ball, modern strikers are the service. Unfortunately Rashford's linkup from deeper positions is either running into defenders, passing to defenders or shooting indiscriminately.My point is that you can’t expect a striker with no service to score goals, we barely create chances for him in the Leicester game. And when we did once for him, which he could have score that as a winner but Elanga ruined it. I don’t even know why Ronaldo is even in this discussion when he‘s not even involved in Leicester game. Do you not realise that I replied your post that referring to the Leicester game?
I swear to god people like you are a total and utter joke. Criticism of his performances is one thing and is perfectly fine but to even bring up that other BS just shows you for what you are mate. Some people are just decent people and like to help those less fortunate than themselves.
Tories everywhere on this thread.
Did he have a shot on target? Or off target? Or even create a chance?
Because you brought up Harry Kane, you’d think Son never played striker before ffs!
He ruined a clear goalscoring opportunity for Elanga too. He gets the ball and instead of passing to an open Elanga runs into him. It's barely a sequence that should be used to defend him. Rashford's problem has little to do with service, Pogba was more involved in our buildups in the same position and he isn't a striker and is way less mobile. Also modern strikers aren't reliant on service to see the ball, modern strikers are the service. Unfortunately Rashford's linkup from deeper positions is either running into defenders, passing to defenders or shooting indiscriminately.
He has a ways to go and it's an absolute disgrace we (or rather Ralf) are being held for his weaknesses by the media. Like the player is above earning his starting position. He is not yet even close to a surefire future starter and may never be. Rashford right now is a rich man's Walcott with a sweet strike.
You're laughing and have no clue what opportunity I'm talking about. I'm guessing this is why the others in the thread are taking the micky out of your approach. Look again when the ball rolls to Rashford, before he even controls it and runs on it Elanga is wide open to his left. He simply needed to feed his strike partner. Leicester defenders were out of position and hadn't converged on Elanga in the brief moment he was still onside. When a sequence like this plays out and people only see the wrong of one actor it's no wonder there are so many people apologizing for his mediocrity. Some even demanding he start.Ruined Elanga’ s goal scoring opportunity. Quote me who said that other than you. In addition, you also questioned why a striker gets involved less in the build up play than midfielder. You are posting weird stuffs. Rashford’s role in that Leicester game was to be an out and out no 9 that score goals, no service, can’t score. Common sense. If you don’t like the role he was given in that Leicester game then you should blame Ralf.
If you want to talk about Rashford in general, don’t reply the post that specifically only talk about the Leicester game. Rashford has been shite this season and I’m one of the poster in here who wants him gone as he doesn’t deserve a new contract but there is no way that agenda should be put into his performance vs Leicester game because he doesn’t have the service to make impact in that game.
You're laughing and have no clue what opportunity I'm talking about. I'm guessing this is why the others in the thread are taking the micky out of your approach. Look again when the ball rolls to Rashford, before he even controls it and runs on it Elanga is wide open to his left. He simply needed to feed his strike partner. Leicester defenders were out of position and hadn't converged on Elanga who was also onside. You're also now the one making stuff up about Rashford's role in that game. An out and out 9? Who told you that? Pogba played 55 minutes there and wasn't an out and out 9, no semi- modern coach tells their striker to be invisible. You still need to link up. Even Ronaldo doesn't hide from the ball when he plays like a poacher. Not in the fashion of being completely iced out of the game. The reality is Rashford is forced to play that way because he has nothing else in his locker besides running fast and shooting hard.
Oh brother, you don't have to spam emojis if you're not confident in your point and yes I see we're talking about the Leicester game and the context. The out and out striker thing is a bad excuse for being incredibly limited, invisible and playing with his head down. You've taken the results and made assumptions on the back of it. Others can also start saying De Gea doesn't come off his line because the managers have instructed the CBs to do all the mopping up. It's soooo obviously made up nonsense.I asked you to quote me but you couldn’t do it. You are the only one who thinks that, weird way of thinking due to your own agenda. The role that was given in that game was an out and out striker, and as a striker, he has every right to be selfish in the box especially when he barely get enough chances. Rashford felt more confident to shoot than passing it to Elanga because he’s afraid of the offside and him being confident run on the ball wasn’t the wrong decision because he did went past Leicester players to have clear path to shoot but Elanga ruined it, which Elanga had no reason to try to take the ball away of Rashford.
It seems that I shouldn’t expect you to understand a striker’s instinct. I have said it before, he’s not a winger or wide player, he’s a striker because he can’t pass and cross but his instinct was to shoot, that’s the instinct of a striker.
Oh brother, you don't have to spam emojis if you're not confident in your point and yes I see we're talking about the Leicester game and the context. The out and out striker thing is a bad excuse for being incredibly limited, invisible and playing with his head down. You've taken the results and made assumptions on the back of it. Others can also start saying De Gea doesn't come off his line because the managers have instructed the CBs to do all the mopping up. It's soooo obviously made up nonsense.
So you say if a different superior player with a superior track record did the same that I'd be more inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt? I wonder why. I also haven't said Elanga had no fault. He should have cleared out of Rashford's path when the pass didn't arrive. He was offside and had no business standing there after the fact. For what it's worth I'm not sure he'll make it here either.I'm sorry if you don't like the emoji, I was just express myself laughing because I found it funny that you couldn't do what I requested to prove that your point is not just your personal agenda.
If that was RVN with the exact same scenario, you wouldn't blame him to shoot because that's what striker does. Selfish in the penalty box and trying to shoot to score especially when the chances are limited. And clearly I'm not the only one who thinks that way because that wasn't just assumptions but it's what me and everybody else see that Rashford had clear path to shoot but Elanga ruined it. You saw it differently due to your agenda.
So you say if a different superior player with a superior track record did the same that I'd be more inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt? I wonder why. I also haven't said Elanga had no fault. He should have cleared out of Rashford's path when the pass didn't arrive. He was offside and had no business standing there after the fact. Rashford's fault and performance are only relevant here because of the small issue of him amassing a huge track record of poor decisions that has cost him his starting role, furthermore in positions with no competition. That performance against Leicester did little to change that. While we're on the topic of proof giving one's take on a play requires little proof. I mean we didn't ask you for proof and you're the one claiming to know what instructions the manager gave Rashford.
Agenda? Could be. Or you know maybe Rashford just isn't good enough for where we want to be. Maybe that's it. I also don't know if Ruud has just becomes the go-to name everytime we have a striker with poor all-round play but people should know Ruud wasn't limited. He was a good footballer when he wasn't scoring, a really really good one. Nothing like Rashford and Lukaku.You wonder why? It's called your personal agenda!! Your agenda on Rashford is that he's not good enough or that he's not RVN level, thus, you will find faulty in everything what he does. If RVN does the exact same thing, you wouldn't find the faulty in that exact same scenario. Rashford created his own path to score and he succeeded, all he had left to do was shoot but Elanga ruined it. I know very well, how bad Rashford's passing, crossing, and decision making, but me and other people still have self-awarness not to use that as agenda to blame on everything what he does like what you just did.
Agenda? Could be. Or you know maybe Rashford just isn't good enough for where we want to be. Maybe that's it. I also don't know if Ruud has just becomes the go-to name everytime we have a striker with poor linkup but people should know Ruud wasn't limited. He was a good footballer when he wasn't scoring, a really really good one. Nothing like Rashford and Lukaku.
Ruined Elanga’ s goal scoring opportunity. Quote me who said that other than you. In addition, you also questioned why a striker gets involved less in the build up play than midfielder. You are posting weird stuffs. Rashford’s role in that Leicester game was to be an out and out no 9 that score goals, no service, can’t score. Common sense. If you don’t like the role he was given in that Leicester game then you should blame Ralf.
If you want to talk about Rashford in general, don’t reply the post that specifically only talk about the Leicester game. Rashford has been shite this season and I’m one of the poster in here who wants him gone as he doesn’t deserve a new contract but there is no way that agenda should be put into his performance vs Leicester game because he doesn’t have the service to make impact in that game.
Hypocrisy at it's finest
Never voted tory in my life "mate".
PS, its all performative as you'd know if you took a glance at his tax arrangements.
Without speculating about the motives of Rashford for doing charity work myself ,I would just like to add even if somebody believes it's all for cynical reasons and not altruistic in the slightest from Rashford why does it matter because at the end of the day his act is helping those less fortunate .His performances have been shocking. We all know that. He isn't alone there by the way.
I took issue with the fact you think he does charity work to look good on social media. If you'd actually seen how many hrs he's given up to do some of those things you'd realise he's just a good lad giving back to those less fortunate.
Absolute BS if you're eluding to Pogba. I wouldn't begrudge him doing charity work ffs. I'm not a monster like you lot clearly.
Jesus Christ. What has this forum become?
I was eluding to you.
I swear to god people like you are a total and utter joke. Criticism of his performances is one thing and is perfectly fine but to even bring up that other BS just shows you for what you are mate. Some people are just decent people and like to help those less fortunate than themselves.
Tories everywhere on this thread.
Practice what you preach.
Why is that so shocking? The hatred on Rashford has really intensified on here since he started doing all that work.
He's even getting the most stick even when he's only coming on as a sub. It's clearly obvious where the issue is with some people.
Nearly a month on. Same garbage mentality. It might take longer for some but you'll get there matey
Oh look, Rashford's mum has turned up
Thierry Henry.