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To be fair, Kane did actually get 41 last season.Jesus that’s a hell of a statement considering Harry Kane isn’t even a 40+ goal striker. rashford will be s 30 to 35 goal striker I reckon.
To be fair, Kane did actually get 41 last season.Jesus that’s a hell of a statement considering Harry Kane isn’t even a 40+ goal striker. rashford will be s 30 to 35 goal striker I reckon.
Sorry but our first-choice striker is not going anywhere.
Crazy that some thought he was Championship standard not too long ago. What a talent.
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The few times he's played out wide under Ole have been his worst by far, imagine if he was playing there full time? (the reading game springs to mind)
Amazing up front though, and can't see him losing his place to anyone at the moment.
Yeah, just read the posts under the Juve at home bookmark and the ones after yesterdays game. It's the same exact people giving two completely opposite opinions about the same player in a span of 4 months.![]()
True but was his only time ever reaching that mark. In 6 seasons.To be fair, Kane did actually get 41 last season.
Right now I think he has surpassed Martial in the overall development. He looks like a more complete player than another great talent two years older than him .
More complete in what specific ways? Martial has shown improvement himself and is just coming off a purple patch of his own
More complete in what specific ways? Martial has shown improvement himself and is just coming off a purple patch of his own
Workrate, Shooting(caught up and succeeded martial who was way ahead of him), Off the ball movement and most importantly decision making. He's liking up with his team brilliantly. Remember the games against Lecister away where 3 people were ahead of him and he wouldn't pass? That's all seem to have changed for better. Right now he looks to be the first name on the sheet.
Workrate, Shooting(caught up and succeeded martial who was way ahead of him), Off the ball movement and most importantly decision making. He's liking up with his team brilliantly. Remember the games against Lecister away where 3 people were ahead of him and he wouldn't pass? That's all seem to have changed for better. Right now he looks to be the first name on the sheet.
I think the only thing Rashford is significantly better from those attributes you mention is off the ball movement and work rate. Martial has better dribbling and technique and his finishing, over the last two years, has been much better. All things considered, they are both on par with their decision making. Its all completely irrelevant because we have both players in the team and can also play both of them in the first eleven.
I see that you're still sore over the Reading game when you felt he wasn't criticised enough.![]()
Right now I think he has surpassed Martial in the overall development. He looks like a more complete player than another great talent two years older than him .
I don't think we should really care too much which one is better since they both are excellent talents, but Rashford definitely looks like someone who is working more on himself than Martial. Actually, he looks determined more than majority of young players around which is good to see.
It was his 41st goal for the club, with Ronaldo having registered 25 times and Rooney 45 times after 150 games. Rashford is the youngest of the trio to reach the number of appearances.
The only good thing Van Gaal did was promote Rashford to the first team, and if I can link this into Mourinho( cos I f*ckin hate the guy), if Mourinho had been in charge he would have probably sold him to Leeds for £3 million after playing him once for 10 minutes in the Caribou Cup.
Let's see; Martial has improved his base level where if he's not scoring or assisting he still contributes to our overall game. Martial used to swing from extremes but is now playing at a more consistent level.
He's now more of a team player where his first instinct is no longer to go past 3 men by himself but looking for teammates in better positions, this doesn't get highlighted because it comes at a cost.. a reduction of his dribbling game but I feel it makes him a more complete player.
People just like to assume he's at the same level when he first came here and has stagnated but that's false.
Rashford is currently going through a nice patch in form that Martial himself has gone through earlier this season... under a worse regime, with Rashford being a no-show then but same can't be said of Martial during Rashford's good form.
Please let's not pit these two players against each other but enjoy them as they are ours and we should feel lucky to have two of the brightest youngsters in football at our club.
The only good thing Van Gaal did was promote Rashford to the first team, and if I can link this into Mourinho( cos I f*ckin hate the guy), if Mourinho had been in charge he would have probably sold him to Leeds for £3 million after playing him once for 10 minutes in the Caribou Cup.
Rashford looks more determined and works harder than Martial. But he is in hot form whereas Martial has slowed down recently. 2 months ago Martial looked like the much better player. Recency bias might distort opinions.
I mean you can dislike Mourinho and be critical of him, but he did give Rashford a lot of game time, and even Rashford’s current form started when Jose was still here.
To be fair, I doubt Mourinho would have played Rashford that much if he hadn't already been discovered by LvG and regarded highly by the club as a key youth prospect. It was pretty much a mandatory thing to develop Rashford for any incoming manager.
And while Rashford scored a fair few under Jose, his movement, control and finishing have never been as good as they are now, and that is due to Ole actually coaching him on these aspects rather than claiming "he lacks maturity, his natural ability isn't as high as Sterling's" etc.
A bit of confidence also helps; if Rashford tried out some of the tricks he does now under Jose and got dispossessed leading to an opposition goal or something, he would have to bear Jose's caustic comments post match. Under Ole, he would probably be encouraged to try risky things even with a CB like Jones at the back.
Sure. Although their relative ages also need to be taken into account. Which is why it was reasonable to allow Rashford a bit more leniency when he was making bad decisions or making silly mistakes, while finding similar performances from Martial very frustrating.
On a similar note, this “hot form” from Rashford could well be just a result of him maturing. So there’s a good chance it’s onwards and upwards from here.
Makes long post arguing why one of these two players is better than the other. Followed by plea that they shouldn’t be compared. Go figure.
Had a disagreement with a poster last season about Rashford vs Martial. I'm going to go back and bump it if I can find it, people were way to invested in making everything about 'someone' vs Mourinho to see that Rashford has always been the bigger talent between the two. His development year on year has been phenomenal.It's funny when people justify criticism of calling him "Championship class" or "Welbeck 2.0" and put it all onto Mourinho rather than recognising that they were short sighted and perhaps a bit stupid in their opinions. Ever since has Rashford has debuted, there has never been a time where he has been "overrated" or "championship class". I just bumped the Jesus thread and there were posts calling him that he wasn't even in the same class talent wise as Jesus or Martial, again that was never true.
Had a disagreement with a poster last season about Rashford vs Martial. I'm going to go back and bump it if I can find it, people were way to invested in making everything about 'someone' vs Mourinho to see that Rashford has always been the bigger talent between the two. His development year on year has been phenomenal.
Would love to have a whole front line from the academy. Rashford, Chong, Greenwood, Gomes and Lingard.On current form Rashford is among the best players in the world.
Not just a striker. And his best years are yet to come.
We also have Greenwood knocking on the door.
To have two strikers come through the academy in such short time is very encouraging.
Great times ahead.
Makes long post arguing why one of these two players is better than the other. Followed by plea that they shouldn’t be compared. Go figure.