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2016-17 Performances


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6.0 Season Average Rating
Appearances
41
Clean sheets
16
Goals
1
Assists
2
Yellow cards
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He played ok but should of been sent off.

Can the FA retrospectively ban him for it?
 
Let's be honest here - it's not a leg breaker. I understand he's not good enough and I'd rather we had bought someone like Cresswell or rather than that played Luke Shaw consistently but we've always had players who threw in hard and yes, reckless tackles.

Keane (one of my favourite players) is beloved on here (rightly so) for his fire and tough tackling, most people don't remember he was a dirty player at times and put in a lot of bad tackles.
What?
 
Gotta be fair and say that Herrera literally thrown him into the fire with that bad pass that preceded that absolutely horrendous tackle. That's not an excuse tho he could have ended Ghana's career just like that.

He should have been sent off definitely but in regards of his performance he did alright, lost first few duels with Lukaku but after that he held his own.
 
You're questioning whether Keane would put in the occasional bad tackle or dangerous tackle?

I mean www.youtube [dot] com/watch?v=cuyw7zWgKOQ
No! I'm questioning why you think most United fans wouldn't remember him as a hardman, well capabale of putting in nasty tackles (of which he made plenty over the years...)
 
:rolleyes: hey everyone, don't talk about that shocking challenge as opposed to someone playing alright

As opposed to talking about his positive performances in recent weeks. Rojo's thread moves like 1 or a half page per good game :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
As opposed to talking about his positive performances in recent weeks. Rojo's thread moves like 1 or a half page per good game :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

That's because his good games are average games where he doesn't make a mistake. If he was amazing he'd get talked about more. If he's shite he'll get talked about more.

It's also not some outrageous conspiracy that if he makes a reckless challenge it gets talked about.
 
That's because his good games are average games where he doesn't make a mistake. If he was amazing he'd get talked about more. If he's shite he'll get talked about more.

It's also not some outrageous conspiracy that if he makes a reckless challenge it gets talked about.

No, but it's unfair when he puts in good performances - even average ones according to your expert opinion - and people don't acknowledge it when he has had an underwhelming (to say the least) start to his United career. Call him out for his shit performances and brainfarts, but give credit where it's due.

Caf echo chamber at its finest.
 
No, but it's unfair when he puts in good performances - even average ones according to your expert opinion - and people don't acknowledge it when he has had an underwhelming (to say the least) start to his United career. Call him out for his shit performances and brainfarts, but give credit where it's due.

Caf echo chamber at its finest.

He's had some credit for the couple of ok performances he's put in, but don't expect pages of talking points from it because there's not much to say about it.

What's unfair about it anyway? If people want to talk about it they will. There's nothing unfair about not doing because it doesn't affect anything.
 
He's had some credit for the couple of ok performances he's put in, but don't expect pages of talking points from it because there's not much to say about it.

What's unfair about it anyway? If people want to talk about it they will. There's nothing unfair about not doing because it doesn't affect anything.

Just doesn't feel right to me. If you can talk about him being bad, and he's been bad, you give him credit for actually playing well. Why is there not a lot to say about someone who (seemingly) loves the club, turning his career around when most people thought he was dead set to be sold at the start of the year?

Looking at some posters here (not referring to you) it's like they're just waiting for Rojo to feck up so they can claim their internet argument points.
 
Gotta be fair and say that Herrera literally thrown him into the fire with that bad pass that preceded that absolutely horrendous tackle. That's not an excuse tho he could have ended Ghana's career just like that.



Looks like bit of an off pass from Carrick (wasn't the first) to Herrera but Herrera should have done better anyways from that clip unless we've missed something leading up to it.
 
One of our best players since coming in. I think we would have lost all these games if Smalling was on the pitch instead of him, to be honest.

Hes unlucky in a sense cause the goals we conceded came from free kicks and penalties mostly.
 
I always had my doubts regarding his IQ.. the tackle confirms it. The sooner such buffoons get out of football, the better.

Its a bad tackle, but if that defines his IQ for you, then you might consider tackles made by Keane, Scholes, Ramos, Mascherano before suggesting Rojo gets kicked out of football for being a dunce.

Edit...kick Aguero out of the game for last weekends tackle too?
 
One of our best players since coming in. I think we would have lost all these games if Smalling was on the pitch instead of him, to be honest.

Hes unlucky in a sense cause the goals we conceded came from free kicks and penalties mostly.

He's a very average player who has done ok! Smalling is a far better player and will replace him when fit.
 
He's a very average player who has done ok! Smalling is a far better player and will replace him when fit.

Seems Smalling completely being our best defender for the majority of last season has been forgotten. In addition to Rojo being a complete liability all of last season. What little bubbles people live in, the Dory effect is becoming the norm...
 
Its a bad tackle, but if that defines his IQ for you, then you might consider tackles made by Keane, Scholes, Ramos, Mascherano before suggesting Rojo gets kicked out of football for being a dunce.

Edit...kick Aguero out of the game for last weekends tackle too?
There is a difference between bad tackles made by the footballers you mentioned and those by lesser players like Rojo and Hector Moreno. The players you mentioned were/are intelligent footballers who usually made bad tackles out of frustration, bad history (Aguero and Luiz) or as a calculated risk. In some ways, that is equally bad but they are more in control and it can atleast be taken out of their game.

Rojo on the other hand does it to make up for his shortcomings as a footballer. He is always second to loose balls and tries to make up for it with unnecessary force. If you've played football, you'll understand that always carries a greater risk of causing injury.

Rojo's tackle is an indicator he's not good enough for this level and will injure somebody in desperation. The sooner he leaves for a club with lower demands, the better it will be for everyone.
 
There is a difference between bad tackles made by the footballers you mentioned and those by lesser players like Rojo and Hector Moreno. The players you mentioned were/are intelligent footballers who usually made bad tackles out of frustration, bad history (Aguero and Luiz) or as a calculated risk. In some ways, that is equally bad but they are more in control and it can atleast be taken out of their game.

Rojo on the other hand does it to make up for his shortcomings as a footballer. He is always second to loose balls and tries to make up for it with unnecessary force. If you've played football, you'll understand that always carries a greater risk of causing injury.

Rojo's tackle is an indicator he's not good enough for this level and will injure somebody in desperation. The sooner he leaves for a club with lower demands, the better it will be for everyone.

For someone that's" always" second to loose balls, this is the first time I've seen him make a tackle THAT bad. He was fine for the rest of the game, so let's just move on and be glad that Gana wasn't seriously hurt.
 
Never saw the tackle at work, and having just seen it now :lol: what the feck was he thinking? Absolutely mental.
 


Looks like bit of an off pass from Carrick (wasn't the first) to Herrera but Herrera should have done better anyways from that clip unless we've missed something leading up to it.


Yeah, chain of bad passes that culminated with that disastrous tackle. Red card most definitely and big props to Ghana for not making a scene, he just stood up and moved on.

On the other hand this bought some extra points for Rojo in Mourinho's book IMO.
 
Just doesn't feel right to me. If you can talk about him being bad, and he's been bad, you give him credit for actually playing well. Why is there not a lot to say about someone who (seemingly) loves the club, turning his career around when most people thought he was dead set to be sold at the start of the year?

Looking at some posters here (not referring to you) it's like they're just waiting for Rojo to feck up so they can claim their internet argument points.

I know what you mean but I don't think that's necessarily the case. Some stuff is worth talking about more than others and unfortunately it's usually something negative with Rojo.
It's also more likely that people will jump on mistakes more if that person's got a history of it, which I think is fairly justified.
 
Rojo's tackle is an indicator he's not good enough for this level and will injure somebody in desperation. The sooner he leaves for a club with lower demands, the better it will be for everyone.

What?

Some of the best defenders in the World have made some horror tackles. Rojo's tackle was mindless, but has nothing to do about whether he's "good enough" or not.
 
For someone that's" always" second to loose balls, this is the first time I've seen him make a tackle THAT bad. He was fine for the rest of the game, so let's just move on and be glad that Gana wasn't seriously hurt.

Rojo has gone in with two feet when playing for us before to be fair, but granted never as bad as that on Sunday.
 
Just doesn't feel right to me. If you can talk about him being bad, and he's been bad, you give him credit for actually playing well. Why is there not a lot to say about someone who (seemingly) loves the club, turning his career around when most people thought he was dead set to be sold at the start of the year?

Looking at some posters here (not referring to you) it's like they're just waiting for Rojo to feck up so they can claim their internet argument points.
Some people have made up their mind on him and will never aknowledge his good performances.
 
I know what you mean but I don't think that's necessarily the case. Some stuff is worth talking about more than others and unfortunately it's usually something negative with Rojo.
It's also more likely that people will jump on mistakes more if that person's got a history of it, which I think is fairly justified.
Agree about that, when someone has a history of mostly not being good enough people always have a tendency to criticise more harshly.
 
One of our best players since coming in. I think we would have lost all these games if Smalling was on the pitch instead of him, to be honest.

Hes unlucky in a sense cause the goals we conceded came from free kicks and penalties mostly.

Yes we would have lost 5 games due to Smalling.

Or you know Giroud wouldn't be scoring that header with Smalling around.
 
There is a difference between bad tackles made by the footballers you mentioned and those by lesser players like Rojo and Hector Moreno. The players you mentioned were/are intelligent footballers who usually made bad tackles out of frustration, bad history (Aguero and Luiz) or as a calculated risk. In some ways, that is equally bad but they are more in control and it can atleast be taken out of their game.

Rojo on the other hand does it to make up for his shortcomings as a footballer. He is always second to loose balls and tries to make up for it with unnecessary force. If you've played football, you'll understand that always carries a greater risk of causing injury.

Rojo's tackle is an indicator he's not good enough for this level and will injure somebody in desperation. The sooner he leaves for a club with lower demands, the better it will be for everyone.

Thanks for your reply. I do (or I think i) know what you mean.
A bit like Martin Keown, terrible footballer but made up for his lack of ability by being a menace on the pitch, and a physical risk to opposition.
I guess I wouldn't classify Rojo in that category.
And I've seen scholes (for example) do so many two footed tackles that had everything to do with disgraceful technique and a nasty streak, that I'm not sure its fair to overlook if you're intent on vilifying Rojo.
 
There is a difference between bad tackles made by the footballers you mentioned and those by lesser players like Rojo and Hector Moreno. The players you mentioned were/are intelligent footballers who usually made bad tackles out of frustration, bad history (Aguero and Luiz) or as a calculated risk. In some ways, that is equally bad but they are more in control and it can atleast be taken out of their game.

Rojo on the other hand does it to make up for his shortcomings as a footballer. He is always second to loose balls and tries to make up for it with unnecessary force. If you've played football, you'll understand that always carries a greater risk of causing injury.

Rojo's tackle is an indicator he's not good enough for this level and will injure somebody in desperation. The sooner he leaves for a club with lower demands, the better it will be for everyone.
I'm sorry but that's just absurd. Scholes repeatedly committed fouls/offences over the years. If such things could have been taken out of his game, I'm sure Fergie would have found a way to do so. Now of course Scholes was so fecking good that such moments were worth dealing with (and let's not sugar-coat it: some of them were truly idiotic.) Rojo doesn't offer that quality-to-clownery ratio. However, all that being said, and moronic tackle aside, I've been very impressed with how Rojo has stepped up during our recent injury crisis. It should be back to the bench for him when our choice players are available again, but he really has stepped in admirably, and I say that as someone who had previously felt he looked like a competition winner when playing for us.
 
He should have been sent off, obviously. A complete liability in my opinion.
But he wasn't. If you ask me, it was justice for all the shite we've had to put up with over the past few months from the referees. What about all the hand balls, penalty accusations and red cards that weren't given against us?

Anyway, if he didn't dive into that 50-50, Gueye could have passed that ball forward to Lukaku. Then everyone would be slating Rojo for not going for it. It's always the way. :rolleyes:

Yes we would have lost 5 games due to Smalling.

Or you know Giroud wouldn't be scoring that header with Smalling around.
How do you figure that one out? Smalling is woeful at defending crosses. All he does is pull shirts and leave his opposition completely unmarked. Seriously, for all the crap Fellaini gets, he is miles better at defending crosses and set pieces than Smalling.

He's a very average player who has done ok! Smalling is a far better player and will replace him when fit.
He won't replace him cause Mourinho has lost all faith in Smalling after the Chelsea performance. And Rojo is playing too well to be replaced. I don't think Smalling and Shaw will be United players in January. I reckon Shaw will be loaned out and Smalling will leave, hopefully allowing us to buy Van Dijk or Fonte. Two superior defenders.
 
I wasn't surprised by it. They made a similar horror tackle on us that went unpunished and so I expected a player of ours to show them that we will dish it out in return and knew they do so without a red due to a weak ref. The ref needed to take control earlier and give their player a yellow to set the standard.
 
But he wasn't. If you ask me, it was justice for all the shite we've had to put up with over the past few months from the referees. What about all the hand balls, penalty accusations and red cards that weren't given against us?

Anyway, if he didn't dive into that 50-50, Gueye could have passed that ball forward to Lukaku. Then everyone would be slating Rojo for not going for it. It's always the way. :rolleyes:


How do you figure that one out? Smalling is woeful at defending crosses. All he does is pull shirts and leave his opposition completely unmarked. Seriously, for all the crap Fellaini gets, he is miles better at defending crosses and set pieces than Smalling.


He won't replace him cause Mourinho has lost all faith in Smalling after the Chelsea performance. And Rojo is playing too well to be replaced. I don't think Smalling and Shaw will be United players in January. I reckon Shaw will be loaned out and Smalling will leave, hopefully allowing us to buy Van Dijk or Fonte. Two superior defenders.

So what if decisions were given against us? It doesn't mean that he shouldn't have been sent off.

He could have dived in without going in with two feet. It is possible to make a tackle without it being possibly a career threatening one.

Rojo is not playing well. A couple of good performances sprinkled in between a load of bad ones isn't good enough. As soon as Mourinho has a chance to get his defenders in Rojo is out the gap. He is nowhere near good enough. He distribution is terrible and he is a complete liability. I'm no Smalling fan, but to think a 32 year old Fonte is a superior player is absolutely outrageous.
 
I wasn't surprised by it. They made a similar horror tackle on us that went unpunished and so I expected a player of ours to show them that we will dish it out in return and knew they do so without a red due to a weak ref. The ref needed to take control earlier and give their player a yellow to set the standard.

Are you talking about the Barry one? That was a bad tackle but it was a yellow. He wasn't booked. Rojo's was a red card all day long.
 
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