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He played ok but should of been sent off.
Can the FA retrospectively ban him for it?
Can the FA retrospectively ban him for it?
He played ok but should of been sent off.
Can the FA retrospectively ban him for it?
What?Let's be honest here - it's not a leg breaker. I understand he's not good enough and I'd rather we had bought someone like Cresswell or rather than that played Luke Shaw consistently but we've always had players who threw in hard and yes, reckless tackles.
Keane (one of my favourite players) is beloved on here (rightly so) for his fire and tough tackling, most people don't remember he was a dirty player at times and put in a lot of bad tackles.
What?
No! I'm questioning why you think most United fans wouldn't remember him as a hardman, well capabale of putting in nasty tackles (of which he made plenty over the years...)You're questioning whether Keane would put in the occasional bad tackle or dangerous tackle?
I mean www.youtube [dot] com/watch?v=cuyw7zWgKOQ
hey everyone, don't talk about that shocking challenge as opposed to someone playing alright
As opposed to talking about his positive performances in recent weeks. Rojo's thread moves like 1 or a half page per good game
That's because his good games are average games where he doesn't make a mistake. If he was amazing he'd get talked about more. If he's shite he'll get talked about more.
It's also not some outrageous conspiracy that if he makes a reckless challenge it gets talked about.
No, but it's unfair when he puts in good performances - even average ones according to your expert opinion - and people don't acknowledge it when he has had an underwhelming (to say the least) start to his United career. Call him out for his shit performances and brainfarts, but give credit where it's due.
Caf echo chamber at its finest.
He's had some credit for the couple of ok performances he's put in, but don't expect pages of talking points from it because there's not much to say about it.
What's unfair about it anyway? If people want to talk about it they will. There's nothing unfair about not doing because it doesn't affect anything.
Gotta be fair and say that Herrera literally thrown him into the fire with that bad pass that preceded that absolutely horrendous tackle. That's not an excuse tho he could have ended Ghana's career just like that.
I always had my doubts regarding his IQ.. the tackle confirms it. The sooner such buffoons get out of football, the better.
One of our best players since coming in. I think we would have lost all these games if Smalling was on the pitch instead of him, to be honest.
Hes unlucky in a sense cause the goals we conceded came from free kicks and penalties mostly.
He's a very average player who has done ok! Smalling is a far better player and will replace him when fit.
There is a difference between bad tackles made by the footballers you mentioned and those by lesser players like Rojo and Hector Moreno. The players you mentioned were/are intelligent footballers who usually made bad tackles out of frustration, bad history (Aguero and Luiz) or as a calculated risk. In some ways, that is equally bad but they are more in control and it can atleast be taken out of their game.Its a bad tackle, but if that defines his IQ for you, then you might consider tackles made by Keane, Scholes, Ramos, Mascherano before suggesting Rojo gets kicked out of football for being a dunce.
Edit...kick Aguero out of the game for last weekends tackle too?
There is a difference between bad tackles made by the footballers you mentioned and those by lesser players like Rojo and Hector Moreno. The players you mentioned were/are intelligent footballers who usually made bad tackles out of frustration, bad history (Aguero and Luiz) or as a calculated risk. In some ways, that is equally bad but they are more in control and it can atleast be taken out of their game.
Rojo on the other hand does it to make up for his shortcomings as a footballer. He is always second to loose balls and tries to make up for it with unnecessary force. If you've played football, you'll understand that always carries a greater risk of causing injury.
Rojo's tackle is an indicator he's not good enough for this level and will injure somebody in desperation. The sooner he leaves for a club with lower demands, the better it will be for everyone.
Looks like bit of an off pass from Carrick (wasn't the first) to Herrera but Herrera should have done better anyways from that clip unless we've missed something leading up to it.
Just doesn't feel right to me. If you can talk about him being bad, and he's been bad, you give him credit for actually playing well. Why is there not a lot to say about someone who (seemingly) loves the club, turning his career around when most people thought he was dead set to be sold at the start of the year?
Looking at some posters here (not referring to you) it's like they're just waiting for Rojo to feck up so they can claim their internet argument points.
Rojo's tackle is an indicator he's not good enough for this level and will injure somebody in desperation. The sooner he leaves for a club with lower demands, the better it will be for everyone.
For someone that's" always" second to loose balls, this is the first time I've seen him make a tackle THAT bad. He was fine for the rest of the game, so let's just move on and be glad that Gana wasn't seriously hurt.
Some people have made up their mind on him and will never aknowledge his good performances.Just doesn't feel right to me. If you can talk about him being bad, and he's been bad, you give him credit for actually playing well. Why is there not a lot to say about someone who (seemingly) loves the club, turning his career around when most people thought he was dead set to be sold at the start of the year?
Looking at some posters here (not referring to you) it's like they're just waiting for Rojo to feck up so they can claim their internet argument points.
Agree about that, when someone has a history of mostly not being good enough people always have a tendency to criticise more harshly.I know what you mean but I don't think that's necessarily the case. Some stuff is worth talking about more than others and unfortunately it's usually something negative with Rojo.
It's also more likely that people will jump on mistakes more if that person's got a history of it, which I think is fairly justified.
One of our best players since coming in. I think we would have lost all these games if Smalling was on the pitch instead of him, to be honest.
Hes unlucky in a sense cause the goals we conceded came from free kicks and penalties mostly.
There is a difference between bad tackles made by the footballers you mentioned and those by lesser players like Rojo and Hector Moreno. The players you mentioned were/are intelligent footballers who usually made bad tackles out of frustration, bad history (Aguero and Luiz) or as a calculated risk. In some ways, that is equally bad but they are more in control and it can atleast be taken out of their game.
Rojo on the other hand does it to make up for his shortcomings as a footballer. He is always second to loose balls and tries to make up for it with unnecessary force. If you've played football, you'll understand that always carries a greater risk of causing injury.
Rojo's tackle is an indicator he's not good enough for this level and will injure somebody in desperation. The sooner he leaves for a club with lower demands, the better it will be for everyone.
I'm sorry but that's just absurd. Scholes repeatedly committed fouls/offences over the years. If such things could have been taken out of his game, I'm sure Fergie would have found a way to do so. Now of course Scholes was so fecking good that such moments were worth dealing with (and let's not sugar-coat it: some of them were truly idiotic.) Rojo doesn't offer that quality-to-clownery ratio. However, all that being said, and moronic tackle aside, I've been very impressed with how Rojo has stepped up during our recent injury crisis. It should be back to the bench for him when our choice players are available again, but he really has stepped in admirably, and I say that as someone who had previously felt he looked like a competition winner when playing for us.There is a difference between bad tackles made by the footballers you mentioned and those by lesser players like Rojo and Hector Moreno. The players you mentioned were/are intelligent footballers who usually made bad tackles out of frustration, bad history (Aguero and Luiz) or as a calculated risk. In some ways, that is equally bad but they are more in control and it can atleast be taken out of their game.
Rojo on the other hand does it to make up for his shortcomings as a footballer. He is always second to loose balls and tries to make up for it with unnecessary force. If you've played football, you'll understand that always carries a greater risk of causing injury.
Rojo's tackle is an indicator he's not good enough for this level and will injure somebody in desperation. The sooner he leaves for a club with lower demands, the better it will be for everyone.
But he wasn't. If you ask me, it was justice for all the shite we've had to put up with over the past few months from the referees. What about all the hand balls, penalty accusations and red cards that weren't given against us?He should have been sent off, obviously. A complete liability in my opinion.
How do you figure that one out? Smalling is woeful at defending crosses. All he does is pull shirts and leave his opposition completely unmarked. Seriously, for all the crap Fellaini gets, he is miles better at defending crosses and set pieces than Smalling.Yes we would have lost 5 games due to Smalling.
Or you know Giroud wouldn't be scoring that header with Smalling around.
He won't replace him cause Mourinho has lost all faith in Smalling after the Chelsea performance. And Rojo is playing too well to be replaced. I don't think Smalling and Shaw will be United players in January. I reckon Shaw will be loaned out and Smalling will leave, hopefully allowing us to buy Van Dijk or Fonte. Two superior defenders.He's a very average player who has done ok! Smalling is a far better player and will replace him when fit.
Some people have made up their mind on him and will never aknowledge his good performances.
But he wasn't. If you ask me, it was justice for all the shite we've had to put up with over the past few months from the referees. What about all the hand balls, penalty accusations and red cards that weren't given against us?
Anyway, if he didn't dive into that 50-50, Gueye could have passed that ball forward to Lukaku. Then everyone would be slating Rojo for not going for it. It's always the way.
How do you figure that one out? Smalling is woeful at defending crosses. All he does is pull shirts and leave his opposition completely unmarked. Seriously, for all the crap Fellaini gets, he is miles better at defending crosses and set pieces than Smalling.
He won't replace him cause Mourinho has lost all faith in Smalling after the Chelsea performance. And Rojo is playing too well to be replaced. I don't think Smalling and Shaw will be United players in January. I reckon Shaw will be loaned out and Smalling will leave, hopefully allowing us to buy Van Dijk or Fonte. Two superior defenders.
I wasn't surprised by it. They made a similar horror tackle on us that went unpunished and so I expected a player of ours to show them that we will dish it out in return and knew they do so without a red due to a weak ref. The ref needed to take control earlier and give their player a yellow to set the standard.
Rojo is not playing well.
He is class
He is class