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Blackwidow said:
Reus is not leaving.

And no - I am no Dortmund fan so I am not that romantic to believe that he stays because of the club - but because he has the package that matches to him best there. I do not see him enjoying to go abroad, having to learn a new language, integrate in another surrounding and finding new friends etc. - he is simply not the type for it. And - he has in Dortmund everything he needs and is the top earner.
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Every team, every player and every agent has a price in football everyone knows this,

If we sell ADM and go to dortmund and slap £45 million on the table to dortmunds chairman. Then move onto reus and tell him we will double or triple his current weekly earnings (he will be on nothing compared to premier league players) then the transfer will have a high chance of happening have no doubt.
 
dannyrhinos89 said:
Every team, every player and every agent has a price in football everyone knows this,

If we sell ADM and go to dortmund and slap £45 million on the table to dortmunds chairman. Then move onto reus and tell him we will double or triple his current weekly earnings (he will be on nothing compared to premier league players) then the transfer will happen have no doubt.
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There's absoutely zero chance Dortmund would even consider £45m, none, null, nothing, nada.

Triple times Reus current wages would put him way, way, way beyond top Premier League earners, not 'nothing.

You seem to think Dortmund are some obscure Moldavian side with no money.
 
Sarni said:
There's absoutely zero chance Dortmund would even consider £45m, none, null, nothing, nada.

Triple times Reus current wages would put him way, way, way beyond top Premier League earners, not 'nothing.

You seem to think Dortmund are some obscure Moldavian side with no money.
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Not convinced.
 
GledTheRed said:
Not convinced.
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That Dortmund would not consider £45m for their best player? They did not want to consider £25m for Lewandowski who only had a year left on his deal. Reus has a long term deal, is happy there and is their most important player on whom they are going to build their future. What would they do with £45m? They won't buy a talent like Reus, who is proven there and at times almost world class, that will be easilly attainable. They paid £20m for someone like Mkhitaryan or £14m for someone like Immobile. You can hardly play much with £45m in the market.

That he'd be top earner? He's on about £5m a year from what I remember, by far the highest Dortmund earner and Puma contribute to his wages. £15m a year would be by far the highest wages anyone has got in Premier League.
 
Sarni said:
That Dortmund would not consider £45m for their best player? They did not want to consider £25m for Lewandowski who only had a year left on his deal. Reus has a long term deal, is happy there and is their most important player on whom they are going to build their future. What would they do with £45m? They won't buy a talent like Reus, who is proven there and at times almost world class, that will be easilly attainable. They paid £20m for someone like Mkhitaryan or £14m for someone like Immobile. You can hardly play much with £45m in the market.

That he'd be top earner? He's on about £5m a year from what I remember, by far the highest Dortmund earner and Puma contribute to his wages. £15m a year would be by far the highest wages anyone has got in Premier League.
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Our own captain is paid that much.
 
Revan said:
Our own captain is paid that much.
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I really don't believe that Rooney is on £300k to be fair.

Still, if we believe that and we are pedantic then he'd not be beyond highest PL earner at the minute but it'd definitely not be 'nothing' compared to Premier League players.
 
Sarni said:
I really don't believe that Rooney is on £300k to be fair.

Still, if we believe that and we are pedantic then he'd not be beyond highest PL earner at the minute but it'd definitely not be 'nothing' compared to Premier League players.
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Of course. a 200k/week for Reus would be quite reasonable, and that would be twice as much what he is earning on BVB.

In fact, I would love to get Reus if we sell Di Maria (in fact, if I had to choose between them I would choose Reus all the time), and a 50m pounds offer might tempt BVB to sell him (that would be 70m euros). I don't see it happening though, and Reus has been injury prone in the last year which might be a risk.
 
Revan said:
Of course. a 200k/week for Reus would be quite reasonable, and that would be twice as much what he is earning on BVB.

In fact, I would love to get Reus if we sell Di Maria (in fact, if I had to choose between them I would choose Reus all the time), and a 50m pounds offer might tempt BVB to sell him (that would be 70m euros). I don't see it happening though, and Reus has been injury prone in the last year which might be a risk.
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Again, £50m will not be enough. £70m is minimum that it'd take to maybe convince them.
 
Sarni said:
That Dortmund would not consider £45m for their best player? They did not want to consider £25m for Lewandowski who only had a year left on his deal. Reus has a long term deal, is happy there and is their most important player on whom they are going to build their future. What would they do with £45m? They won't buy a talent like Reus, who is proven there and at times almost world class, that will be easilly attainable. They paid £20m for someone like Mkhitaryan or £14m for someone like Immobile. You can hardly play much with £45m in the market.

That he'd be top earner? He's on about £5m a year from what I remember, by far the highest Dortmund earner and Puma contribute to his wages. £15m a year would be by far the highest wages anyone has got in Premier League.
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They also have to have some sort of decency towards Reus who could double his wages and actually play for a team who compete. He would certainly want to leave and has been a good servant to BVB
 
Some people here seem to be forgetting £45million is over €63million

Still might not sway them, but its a factor, just saying...
 
GledTheRed said:
They also have to have some sort of decency towards Reus who could double his wages and actually play for a team who compete. He would certainly want to leave and has been a good servant to BVB
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Nonsense. If he were after money he'd not have put a pen to a new deal that removed his low release clause (£25m) which had been putting him in a great negotiting position and would ensure that a lot of top clubs would come with huge offers. Instead he extended his deal only a few months ago.
 
Grib said:
Some people here seem to be forgetting £45million is over €63million

Still might not sway them, but its a factor, just saying...
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Not enough. He'll be impossible to replace for them and that money buys you 2-3 Mkhitaryans.
 
Dortmund are just not going to be selling him this summer. Changing coaches was bad enough, they won't agree to a major, late, change to the squad. No is actually no with them.
 
Sarni said:
Nonsense. If he were after money he'd not have put a pen to a new deal that removed his low release clause (£25m) which had been putting him in a great negotiting position and would ensure that a lot of top clubs would come with huge offers. Instead he extended his deal only a few months ago.
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Exactly.
 
Revan said:
Our own captain is paid that much.
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Rooney, club legend and captain, currently earns max. 24 Mil. € per year. Reus is on at least 10 Mil.€. right now. Trippling that would put him on 30 Mil. €. Thats the Ronaldo/Messi bracket. No one is going to pay him that kind of money. It would completely destroy every wage structure. Even putting him on 20 Mil. € would be highly dangerous.
 
Sphaero said:
Rooney, club legend and captain, currently earns max. 24 Mil. € per year. Reus is on at least 10 Mil.€. right now. Trippling that would put him on 30 Mil. €. Thats the Ronaldo/Messi bracket. No one is going to pay him that kind of money. It would completely destroy every wage structure. Even putting him on 20 Mil. € would be highly dangerous.
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Reus is at 10m? Wow, I thought that he is on half of it.

Obviously, no-one would triple or even double his wages. Likely he could get 200k (pound)/week which would be 14.5m euros or so though.

Anyway, Reus isn't on this for money. If he was, he would have already left when he had his clause.
 
Have to say I admire him for not leaving already for higher wages somewhere else. A footballer basically has 10-15 years to amass his fortune that basically has to last him for the rest of his life.
It may sound alot what they earn, but they get used to and addicted to a certain lifestyle and by the time they have retired they will still have to deal with alot of those high bills and have alot of family members or parasites to support with no income unless they become a pundit or get into coaching.
Reus is 26 now, he has maybe 1 or max 2 more years during which he is still worth it for top clubs to splurge on and pay him superstar wages on a 4 or 5 year contract. It is time.
 
Revan said:
Reus is at 10m? Wow, I thought that he is on half of it.

Obviously, no-one would triple or even double his wages. Likely he could get 200k (pound)/week which would be 14.5m euros or so though.

Anyway, Reus isn't on this for money. If he was, he would have already left when he had his clause.
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Well, technically he is on 8,5 Mil.€ plus around 2 Mil. € by Puma. This involvement by his biggest personal sponsor to keep him at a Puma sponsored club is probably the biggest reason, why a transfer this Summer is so unlikely.

Even if people believe Reus was just lying about his reasons for renewing his contract, even if they believe that erasing the release clause was just to ensure that Dortmund gets a higher fee, no one can tell me that a company would let their effort to keep their poster boy where they want him to be become public, just to see him transfer to a club sponsored by the competition. The loss of face would be gigantic.

It´s not cockiness that makes me so sure that Reus will stay at least one more season at Dortmund. It´s the knowledge of the details of the deal, which make a transfer so senseless. And my opinion on that is hardly exclusive. Ask any German poster with even a shred of knowledge about Dortmund, where they expect him to play this season. The answer will always be the same.

Thats the last post I will make on this matter, though. Everything else would be just running around in circles based on nothing but pure speculation and "knowledge" of the inner workings of Borussia Dortmund.
 
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Sarni said:
Nonsense. If he were after money he'd not have put a pen to a new deal that removed his low release clause (£25m) which had been putting him in a great negotiting position and would ensure that a lot of top clubs would come with huge offers. Instead he extended his deal only a few months ago.
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I'm sure he did that as a like gentleman's agreement to the club ensuring they get a better transfer fee, If you think Reus wouldn't want to leave your delusional.
 
How much were we paying Falcao ? Doubt it was the exaggerated media claims and that anyone knows exactly but Putting Reus on 75% of his wages even shouldn't be issue.

I think 50 million with the euro weakening should be considerable as well to BVB.

Also factoring in the injury issues he's had recently.
 
I have a different opinion than Sphaero - you might get the club to agree as he is on the stock market - but it is the player that will not leave.

If it was about money - he had all the good cards in his hands with the release clause. Because the clubs would have saved money with it he would have gotten higher wages and a big sum for himself - he probably would have gotten 10% of the transfer sum, too - like Götze got two years ago. Including titles - with the disadvantage that you have to fight for your place at the big clubs but have to leave home and adapt to a new country and the expectations of the new fans.

Even if somebody would pay him a higher wage than he would get at Dortmund - it would not be a better situation than some months ago when he already declined. And - nothing has changed...
 
The myth about brands paying players not to leave for rival brand sponsored teams is just that... A myth.
No brand has that that much power
 
Blackwidow said:
I have a different opinion than Sphaero - you might get the club to agree as he is on the stock market - but it is the player that will not leave.
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Eh, I never said that it would be impossible to reach an agreement with Borussia Dortmund. That is actually a matter of the price. This is the last thing I wrote concerning the club´s perspective:

Sphaero said:
What you seemingly fail to understand is that the only decider about a transfer is currently Borussia Dortmund. Reus made sure of that when he turned down a lot of money and got rid of his release clause. For Dortmund to sell Reus in this incredibly comfortable contract situation the normal market value would not be enough for them, not by a long shot. Any buyer would need to pay over the odds by a significant margin, which is why Reus won´t go anywhere in the near future.
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I stand by that. Reus´normal value in the market would be somewhere between 50 and 60 Mil. €, leaning more towards the latter figure. It would probably take at least 20 Mil. € on top of that to make them consider letting him go right now. So we are in the region 80+ Mil. € here. I doubt that any club would be willing pay that kind of money right now.

The rest of the posts were all from the player´s perspective, where I agree with your assesment of the situation.
 
@Sphaero

Have you heared anything lately about his driving licence story? The last thing I have read that they opened it new because of new material. But I haven't read anything about results. And even if there was no known block for making a driving licence he has not made it now, or?
 
GledTheRed said:
I'm sure he did that as a like gentleman's agreement to the club ensuring they get a better transfer fee, If you think Reus wouldn't want to leave your delusional.
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I don't find it delusional at all. I know loyalty is as good as dead but this is his hometown club, he clearly loves the place and if rumours in Germany are to believed turned down Madrid before signing his extension in February.
 
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GledTheRed said:
I'm sure he did that as a like gentleman's agreement to the club ensuring they get a better transfer fee, If you think Reus wouldn't want to leave your delusional.
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I think you're closer to being the delusional one if anything, if you really think the only reason he signed a new contract was so they get a better fee. Reus just doesn't want to leave yet quite clearly. Maybe he was considering joining Barca before their transfer ban, but then they also signed Neymar and Suarez. Or maybe he considered Real Madrid for a bit, but then I'm pretty sure either he or Dortmund turned them down so there you go. He's clearly happy where he is, and for now, he isn't going anywhere. One bad season doesn't mean everyone at the club wants to jump ship (as you well know with United as well).
 
He doesn't fit in the Guardiola type offense, he's more of a Fergie type player, imho, he slices trough defenses like a scalpel. Pep lulls you to sleep like a juggler.
 
100m Euros and doubling his wages might do it.

Selling Di Maria is gutting. Let's get thay star that Louie keeps talking about.
 
His agency came out and said that he is not going anywhere this summer and I believe that to be the case. Reus is a special talent for me hes world class already and it would take a huge amount of cash to take him away from BvB but its not happening this summer at least. When/If he leaves it'll be to Madrid/Barca.
 
GledTheRed said:
I'm sure he did that as a like gentleman's agreement to the club ensuring they get a better transfer fee, If you think Reus wouldn't want to leave your delusional.
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What's your source for this information?

So I assume it cannot possibly be that Reus is happy at his boyhood club where he is the main player, earning £7m a year and being club hero. He definitely goes to sleep every night dreaming of pulling on Man Utd shirt even though he has no affiliation with United and has already stated numerous times that he's happy at Dortmund and even confirmed that by signing a new deal. Because from all the facts known to us you have gathered that in fact Reus wants to leave. Since he so desperately wants to leave and is available for £45m, which is frankly not much for a player of his calibre, then maybe you care to explain why there's been no interest shown in him this Summer and no credible sources linking him with a move away? Couild it possibly be that he doesn't actually want to leave?

I don't think I'm the one being delusional here at all.
 
Selling Reus would immediately turn Dortmund into a slightly above average team. It would be similar to Liverpool after selling Suarez or Tottenham after selling Bale.

So if there is a chance to get him the price will be somewhere in the region of 60 or 70 Mio pounds.
 
Have we been linked to him in any way, or is all this talk purely hope?
 
Wow, did not realise he was only 26! I thought he was 29 or so, thats definitely changed my mind, behind the obvious Bale Ronaldo Hazard Suarez Neymar, he has to be one of the best inside/wide forwards in the game..
 
cyberman said:
The myth about brands paying players not to leave for rival brand sponsored teams is just that... A myth.
No brand has that that much power
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Why? How much power does it take to tell a player "we will pay you sum x if you play for a club which we sponsor"?
Puma hold shares of Dortmund, they are their kit sponsor and they are a big personal sponsor of Reus. I don't believe that they call the shots but they most likely will have some influence.
Btw the same is true for Adidas and Bayern. If I remember correctly for example Lewandowski got a personal deal from Adidas around the time he signed his Bayern contract, they also hold shares and they also are Bayern's kit sponsor.

And Sphaero pretty much said all there is to know. Nothing points towards a move this summer, most of the information we have does infact speak quite clearly against it. Some Fairytales from English papers or Spanish sports homepages won't change that.
 
Would be an ideal replacement for Di Maria, but there doesn't appear to be much news that we are interested in him or Dortmund are looking to sell, maybe he just wants to stay at Dortmund.
 
Spielmacher said:
Oh really? :lol:
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Don't understand the laugh? Do you believe he has so far cemented himself in that position, its laughable I pointed it out? Or alternatively, you think he isn't anywhere near that..

Seeing your German, I'll go with the former. In which case, he has never scored 20 goals in a season, despite being the focal point for his team's attacks. He has never not been the top dog at a club either, he could fail miserably at a top club, and be better suited to a big fish in a small pond..
 
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