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£7m loan fee and £40m obligation to buy would be a good deal for us, I feel.
* So says our recruitment team / manager, probably
* So says our recruitment team / manager, probably
I mean if he was coming straight from his season at Brighton, most of us would be delighted with this, no? Have we not given the entire Chelsea squad a pass on last season, no?
I’m trying to take a lot of comfort from the fact Pep really wanted him last summer.
He was absolutely dreadful at Chelsea but so was everyone. Hopefully he can find his Brighton form.
Isn't that exactly what we are doing?We obviously shouldn't touch it if the loan fee is anywhere close to £7m but the Cucurella loan feels a lot more palatable today after the Rico Henry links that surfaced yesterday. I think I would've had an aneurysm if we tried to spend the remainder of our budget on a LB.
We obviously shouldn't touch it if the loan fee is anywhere close to £7m but the Cucurella loan feels a lot more palatable today after the Rico Henry links that surfaced yesterday. I think I would've had an aneurysm if we tried to spend the remainder of our budget on a LB.
What's a system player? Surely one can play well in other systems? And isn't that what we expect Ten Hag to be doing? Implementing a system?He was a system player at Brighton. Very good going forward, but couldn't defend. Mistakes didn't get noticed there.
They did at Chelsea and they will at United.
Probably you won't need to pay his wages then. If that's the case it's fair deal overall.
Wow, he's 5' 8" - that's shorter than I thought!
Yes probably you are right. But we will do this deal in the hope of he recover his form and that make you sign him for good money. In worst case scenario this year wage will be off from our books.You know what, I don't know how wage pay is actually structured in loans, it would make sense it's all routed through the club retaining the original contract.
7m€ is roughly his annual pay per estimations, right ?
So signing a player that is terrible is a step in the right direction? I can see it now. Magure at CB, Cucurella LB, McTominay, Mount and Hojbjerg in CM.I for one thinks our full backs have held us back over recent years.
Even Shaw has not been that great a lot of the time and the rest have offered very little as a attacking option.
We need dynamic full backs and Cucurella might not be the best but he's a step in the right direction.
What's a system player? Surely one can play well in other systems? And isn't that what we expect Ten Hag to be doing? Implementing a system?
The link at the beginning was Ashley Young and Ryan Bertrand so we have come up in the world a bitWe obviously shouldn't touch it if the loan fee is anywhere close to £7m but the Cucurella loan feels a lot more palatable today after the Rico Henry links that surfaced yesterday. I think I would've had an aneurysm if we tried to spend the remainder of our budget on a LB.
I wouldn't have thought so. A loan shouldn't impinge on our business in the same way a permanent transfer would. Even if it does, the damage doesn't feel as irrevocable as it would if we spent £50m+ on a player who doesn't improve the first team. Small wins!Isn't that exactly what we are doing?
All of Chelsea has been shocking for 18 months really. And it's especially hard for a new signing to come into that.Why was he so shocking at Chelsea then? He was getting skinned by every right winger.
Fixed.It's Arnold and Murtough, they'll pay 6m and some people on caf dress it up as great negotiations.
If McTominay goes we will surely (hopefully) sign another midfielder. Otherwise, yeah. Seems like it.Isn't that exactly what we are doing?
Never said he was useless. He’s looked worse than that since though.He was far from useless for Brighton, he was a brilliant player for them.
Basically all of the Fred money then. That decision is looking madder by the day.7m Chelsea are ridiculous and we’re even worse if we pay anywhere close to that.
Is that Chelsea math? Don't get me wrong. Our inept management wouldn't catch it either but splitting the difference would be 4.5M. But let's say 4M.We have Chilwell and Maatsen for LB/LWB so getting rid of Cucurella who's on high wages makes a lot of sense, even if it's only a temporary move.
Reportedly we're after a £7M loan fee and United have offered £2M. Let's say the difference is split in the middle and the final loan fee was around £5M. That fee as well as having United paying his salary for the season would be a wonderful deal for us. Basically he'd only cost us £4M for the season as compared to the £18M he currently does (amortisation + salary).
Next year his book value would be lower and chances are he'd have redeemed himself a little bit playing for you lot so it could be much easier to get rid of him on a permanent move then, even if you didn't buy him.
Shaw is a natural talent. Technique, passing, composure at the back up there with the best. We’re gonna miss him badly. Cucurella at Brighton was all hustle and bustle, pretty good but not top classI for one thinks our full backs have held us back over recent years.
Even Shaw has not been that great a lot of the time and the rest have offered very little as a attacking option.
We need dynamic full backs and Cucurella might not be the best but he's a step in the right direction.
noIs this guy any good? I only know him for flipping at Chelsea.
I wonder if we’re still expected to cover his wages if we’re paying £7m loan fee? If not, then this is a fair deal IMO as it works out about £135k a week
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He is NOT a shit player and when fully focused he’s fine. But when he makes mistakes they’ve been terrible howlers. That’s been his issue here. Focus and concentration.
He’ll be fine for you guys.
Much better than Shaw.
He's a good footballer, I think he'll be able to do the tucked in fullback role well.
Just the 200m spent on that backline.Can you imagine us having to field Cucurella - Maguire - Lindelof - Dalot in the same game?