[Pogue Mahone]

The only player other than Amad who can feel like they had a pretty good game.

Nah, Bruno played well too. Despite that poor pass they ended up scoring from.

Ugarte was the best though. By a margin.

 

[Stobzilla]

Nah, Bruno played well too. Despite that poor pass they ended up scoring from.

Ugarte was the best though. By a margin.

No he didn't. He had loads of lazy and loose touches all the way through the game, as well as being weaker than piss in his defensive work as well. The goal turned a terrible performance into a simply rank one.

Ugarte was far and away our best player however I agree.

 

[C'est Moi Cantona]

It's a good sign that Amorim has got the one player he knows playing really well already, as it is that other than Zirkzee our summer signings look pretty decent.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

No he didn't. He had loads of lazy and loose touches all the way through the game, as well as being weaker than piss in his defensive work as well. The goal turned a terrible performance into a simply rank one.

Ugarte was far and away our best player however I agree.

As usual Bruno was central to any and all of our creative football. Which dried up completely the instant he went off. No change there. He’s had better games but was clearly one of our better players tonight.

Although admittedly that’s a low bar, seeing as most of them were very poor.

 

[bosnian_red]

Quality player. Nice to have him and Mainoo to build the team around, really work well for the system though of course still room for them to grow and improve, especially mainoo. Really happy with the signing though. Just need depth for him as we drop significantly without his energy

 

[Ludens the Red]

Been good the last few games. Still not sure who’d be best suited to playing alongside though.

 

[Oranges038]

Another decent performance, he's getting better with every game.

Still not sure if he's good enough overall, but he's doing ok so far.

 

[Red & White]

One positive from today.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

Getting better and better.

 

[KjaAnd]

Good game from him. Loved the pass to Garnacho for the first goal.

 

[criticalanalysis]

One man midfield at times.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Good game from him. Loved the pass to Garnacho for the first goal.

He almost hit an even better lofted through ball to Hojlund. He’s a damn good passer of the ball.

Are you watching, Carl Anka?!?

 

[Blood Mage]

Needs to be paired with a DLP next season so he can push up a bit more and press the opponent which is his best skill.

 

[Bondi77]

So Ugarte and Kobbie are the more defensive midfielders and yet Forest strode through our midfield at times.
He has good energy so maybe Kobbie is the issue.

 

[Ekeke]

Nah, Bruno played well too. Despite that poor pass they ended up scoring from.

Ugarte was the best though. By a margin.

Bruno had his ups and downs, unfortunately setting up their winner

Ugarte and Amad are the only ones who enhanced their reps for me

 

[Ballache]

Was very good I thought but looked knackered. We need more options in midfield.

 

[Raven]

He's actually an excellent player. I can see what we're going for at times and we're back scoring goals at least. I think Ugarte will be an important player in what Amorim is building.

 

[Ollie Derbyshire]

So Ugarte and Kobbie are the more defensive midfielders and yet Forest strode through our midfield at times.
He has good energy so maybe Kobbie is the issue.

Ugarte is one of our few players who knows his role and plays it well. We simply don’t have another player good enough to play alongside him.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Caicedo vs Rice vs Ugarte – 2024/25 stats per 90​

Stat per 90	Caicedo	Rice	Ugarte
Passing accuracy %	89.4%	90.3%	91.5%
Accurate long balls %	56.1%	73.8%	57.1%
Dribble success %	62.5%	46.2%	71.4%
Tackles won	2.03	0.81	2.50
Duels won	6.17	3.99	7.87
Interceptions	1.56	0.81	1.25
Recoveries	5.43	5.29	6.62

 

[V.O.]

Stat per 90	Caicedo	Rice	Ugarte
Passing accuracy %	89.4%	90.3%	91.5%
Accurate long balls %	56.1%	73.8%	57.1%
Dribble success %	62.5%	46.2%	71.4%
Tackles won	2.03	0.81	2.50
Duels won	6.17	3.99	7.87
Interceptions	1.56	0.81	1.25
Recoveries	5.43	5.29	6.62

Does Declan Rice actually do anything but take corners?

 

[Foolsgold21]

Caicedo vs Rice vs Ugarte – 2024/25 stats per 90​

Stat per 90	Caicedo	Rice	Ugarte
Passing accuracy %	89.4%	90.3%	91.5%
Accurate long balls %	56.1%	73.8%	57.1%
Dribble success %	62.5%	46.2%	71.4%
Tackles won	2.03	0.81	2.50
Duels won	6.17	3.99	7.87
Interceptions	1.56	0.81	1.25
Recoveries	5.43	5.29	6.62

Very interesting

Thought he was a complete turkey to begin with but I like the cut of his jib since Ten Hag left.

Only 23 as well so should still improve.

 

[Rockets Redglare]

So Ugarte and Kobbie are the more defensive midfielders and yet Forest strode through our midfield at times.
He has good energy so maybe Kobbie is the issue.

The issue there isn’t with Ugarte.

 

[DWelbz19]

Caicedo vs Rice vs Ugarte – 2024/25 stats per 90​

Stat per 90	Caicedo	Rice	Ugarte
Passing accuracy %	89.4%	90.3%	91.5%
Accurate long balls %	56.1%	73.8%	57.1%
Dribble success %	62.5%	46.2%	71.4%
Tackles won	2.03	0.81	2.50
Duels won	6.17	3.99	7.87
Interceptions	1.56	0.81	1.25
Recoveries	5.43	5.29	6.62

Not bad at all. Wins the ball a lot, carries it well, gets the ball accurately to a teammate.

Just need a deeper lying playmaker beside him who also has some legs in him and you’re pretty good.

 

[romufc]

So Ugarte and Kobbie are the more defensive midfielders and yet Forest strode through our midfield at times.
He has good energy so maybe Kobbie is the issue.

They didn;t stride through our midfield like you say they did.

First goal was a corner and second goal was 2 mistakes.

We controlled most of the game, your are talking about striding through our midfield like it was the same as under Ten Hag.

 

[Raven]

Caicedo vs Rice vs Ugarte – 2024/25 stats per 90​

Stat per 90	Caicedo	Rice	Ugarte
Passing accuracy %	89.4%	90.3%	91.5%
Accurate long balls %	56.1%	73.8%	57.1%
Dribble success %	62.5%	46.2%	71.4%
Tackles won	2.03	0.81	2.50
Duels won	6.17	3.99	7.87
Interceptions	1.56	0.81	1.25
Recoveries	5.43	5.29	6.62

He's been great lately, didn't realize how great though.

 

[Cutch]

They didn;t stride through our midfield like you say they did.

First goal was a corner and second goal was 2 mistakes.

We controlled most of the game, your are talking about striding through our midfield like it was the same as under Ten Hag.

Yeah, we restricted them to 28% possession, 0 big chances created and 3 (mostly shit) attempts on target that they scored from. The centre midfield did their job better than anyone else on the pitch.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Watching Chelsea I’ve thought that Lavia has been at least as good as Caicedo. Makes you think how much better we’d be if we had two Ugartes, instead of one.

Mainoo is a terrific player but can’t help thinking he’ll end up playing further forward in the long term.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Yeah, we restricted them to 28% possession, 0 big chances created and 3 (mostly shit) attempts on target that they scored from. The centre midfield did their job better than anyone else on the pitch.

Although I do agree with this.

 

[Cutch]

Watching Chelsea I’ve thought that Lavia has been at least as good as Caicedo. Makes you think how much better we’d be if we had two Ugartes, instead of one.

Mainoo is a terrific player but can’t help thinking he’ll end up playing further forward in the long term.

He has been but hasn't Caicedo been basically playing right back (missed most their games but from what I've heard). The main shift they've made in recent weeks is bringing Enzo back in and playing more advanced. So Lavia at 6, Enzo at 8 and Palmer 10. Its whether Ugarte, Mainoo and Bruno can replicate those 3. They can in some ways but Ugarte wouldnt have Lavia's passing range, Mainoo needs to affect the final third like Enzo has been doing last few weeks, and Bruno has to do his best to get anywhere near Palmer level of output.

Agree Lavia and Caicedo as a pair earlier in the season did look very good too though.

 

[Lost bear]

Watching Chelsea I’ve thought that Lavia has been at least as good as Caicedo. Makes you think how much better we’d be if we had two Ugartes, instead of one.

Mainoo is a terrific player but can’t help thinking he’ll end up playing further forward in the long term.

Yes, agree regarding Kobbie. He’s brilliant around the opposition penalty area. I look forward to seeing him play there eventually.

 

[Red in STL]

Been good the last few games. Still not sure who’d be best suited to playing alongside though.

That should depend on the opposition, we shouldn't think of a 'fixed XI' when everyone is available, there are games where Casemiro would be the best partner, other games where it might be Bruno and so on, that should apply in other positions (and formations for that matter)

 

[Irwin99]

Watching Chelsea I’ve thought that Lavia has been at least as good as Caicedo. Makes you think how much better we’d be if we had two Ugartes, instead of one.

Mainoo is a terrific player but can’t help thinking he’ll end up playing further forward in the long term.

I've never understood the objection to having two similar B2B or DM midfielders who can take turns to go forward, or stay behind or whatever. Have seen Keane and Paul Ince, Vieira and Petit, that Bayern midfield that absolutely wrecked Barcelona years back (Schweinsteiger and Martinez I think it was?).

Another aggressive ball winner would be great for us.

 

[Shark]

I've never understood the objection to having two similar B2B or DM midfielders who can take turns to go forward, or stay behind or whatever. Have seen Keane and Paul Ince, Vieira and Petit, that Bayern midfield that absolutely wrecked Barcelona years back (Schweinsteiger and Martinez I think it was?).

Another aggressive ball winner would be great for us.

You need goals throughout the squad to facilitate that though. United also always had CM's that could chip in, like Scholes and even Keane had an eye for goal.

 

[Irwin99]

You need goals throughout the squad to facilitate that though. United also always had CM's that could chip in, like Scholes and even Keane had an eye for goal.

Depends on the shape of the team I guess and the quality in other areas. Liverpool under Klopp had a really hardworking, energetic midfield but I don't remember those players scoring that many goals. The front three and the full backs always seemed to be the main dangers.

In a 3-4-3, you'd expect your wingbacks to chip in with more goals (look at Frimpong last season with 14) and then you have the front three players. If we had great players in those positions then it wouldn't matter too much if we had two more defensive-minded midfielders.

 

[LukeTheRed]

I thought he was outstanding today

Bossed the midfield and made so many big interceptions & tackles

 

[roonster09]

He is fecking class, so underrated on the ball too.

 

[Based Adnan]

He's better on the ball than I initially thought. Defensively very solid.

 

[golden_blunder]

Best game for United? I thought so

 

[dannyrhinos89]

Solid yet again

Really making that midfield on his own.

 

[Telsim]

The kind of player United needed and didn't have for a decade.