UnitedSofa
You'll Never Walk Away
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I think Fletcher supervises the DNA testsFletcher is NOT the DOF. Nor has he ever claimed to be. From your post you clearly blamed Fletcher for the mess.
John Murtough is the man in control of ALL footballing matters.
Fletcher is there to help determine if those we are signing are the right sort of players that are needed for the club. As far as I am aware no other club does this. Whether or not that's a positive or a negative on the club is another matter entirely. But for heavens sake, stop criticising Fletcher for a job he is clearly qualified to do.
Oh and he has ALL the experience needed to do the job because he has played for the club and has been a loyal servant for many many MANY years. He knows what it takes for a young player to make the step up, he knows the mentality required to play for Man Utd. Not some hipster signing that posters such as yourself may pine for.
We signed AWB after shortlisting 7.000 right backs apparently, surely one of them must have been from outside Europe.Head of global scouting? When was the last time we signed a player from outside of Europe?
Are you kidding? What makes you believe that I think Fletch is the DOF?Fletcher is NOT the DOF. Nor has he ever claimed to be. From your post you clearly blamed Fletcher for the mess.
John Murtough is the man in control of ALL footballing matters.
Fletcher is there to help determine if those we are signing are the right sort of players that are needed for the club. As far as I am aware no other club does this. Whether or not that's a positive or a negative on the club is another matter entirely. But for heavens sake, stop criticising Fletcher for a job he is clearly qualified to do.
Oh and he has ALL the experience needed to do the job because he has played for the club and has been a loyal servant for many many MANY years. He knows what it takes for a young player to make the step up, he knows the mentality required to play for Man Utd. Not some hipster signing that posters such as yourself may pine for.
Rangnick spent the last week trashing our recruitment, saying we’ve got it completely wrong. He’s also spoken about numerous players he has recommended and our scouts had absolutely no idea about.
Murtough has a good relationship with and trusts Rangnick’s opinion. It’s not a stretch to infer that Rangnick has been listened to here as it aligns with what he’s been saying publicly.
Don't we have thousands of scouts all over the world? Sack them all.
Yep and I’m beginning to wonder if Rangnick’s mandate as interim as much about assessing the squad and preparing for the rebuild as it was about having any sort of success on the field this season.This is why I have said that I think Ralf is not speaking out on the players etc on his own. He has been around far too long to be so naive in what he says. He must have the backing of Murtough to keep saying such things all the time.
If there's any chance that both Ralf and Paul Mitchell are the ones who are going to replace Marcel Bout and Jim Lawlor, IMO it will be a proper appointment.
Yep and I’m beginning to wonder if Rangnick’s mandate as interim as much about assessing the squad and preparing for the rebuild as it was about having any sort of success on the field this season.
Maybe because he was playing under Ole, so he told them to check him.
But the fact that they didn't understand that he is a generational talent and we should buy him no matter what (around 5 millions), then more questionmarks appear.
My chest.Here's why they've been sacked:
Stephen Howson said we are looking into hiring a lady (I know, take it with a bucket of salt) who is heavily into analytics.
I paid no attention to it but wonder if there is some wider restructure going on with how we scrape the world for talent.
Edit - take it with a bucket and a half in fact. Lord knows why it's even worth posting.
Are you kidding? What makes you believe that I think Fletch is the DOF?
If Fletcher is the guy to determine that, then we deserve everything that we have been living through. God what does he do, ask questions about United history to see whether the player we will sign is a fan? Who else has that position? If that's the case that you are making it to be, what the heck he does on the touchline? Why does he place the transfer negotiations? It makes no sense at all.
I am not an hipster poster whatsoever. Just because he served for years does not mean he is qualified to do the job. Go on then fill the management squad with O'shea, Bellion then. Why did we fire Ole then? He played for the club years and years.
Your arguments for Fletcher is so inept that I am not gonna bother to reply.
Imagine how shit you are at your job if you think Wan-Bissaka was the best RB out of 7000? Or even in the top 10 for that matter. That's a sackable offence in itself.We signed AWB after shortlisting 7.000 right backs apparently, surely one of them must have been from outside Europe.
Enough to make your eyes bleed isn't it? Absolutely fecking squandered.My chest.
Think it is.I have seen that lady somewhere giving a brutal analysis of United. If it is the same lady.
Very much this!On the surface level you might say that if they were in charge of our scouting then it's good that they're going.
However, that assumes our scouting was actually listened to at all times. When we know they were often at odds with our managers and their personal scouts. A classic case being Maguire, who our scouts didn't think should be signed when Mourinho wanted him but then we caved and got him anyway a year later.
So it's not quite as black and white as our scouts being good scouts, it's also about the power dynamic between them and the rest of the recruitment process.
Still, hopefully this is a sign of positive change. If we're going to make changes now is the time to do it I guess.
If it's a lady then it wouldn't surprise me if that lady is the head of data science at Ajax, (Vosse de Boode). I've shared her work on here before.Stephen Howson said we are looking into hiring a lady (I know, take it with a bucket of salt) who is heavily into analytics.
I paid no attention to it but wonder if there is some wider restructure going on with how we scrape the world for talent.
Edit - take it with a bucket and a half in fact. Lord knows why it's even worth posting.
Think it is.
If it's a lady then it wouldn't surprise me if that lady is the head of data science at Ajax, (Vosse de Boode). I've shared her work on here before.
If it's a lady then it wouldn't surprise me if that lady is the head of data science at Ajax, (Vosse de Boode). I've shared her work on here before.
Just googled her. Safe to say we should hold off on giving it Giggsy til end of season while she's around.
Forlan set that one up, the scouts aren't having that transferPellistri.
I know this keep coming from lot of posters. Fact is, that list was ignored by Ole and he went with this cultural shit thing. So cut them some slack. Not saying they have been great but Maguire/AWB/James is completely on Ole and Phelan.We signed AWB after shortlisting 7.000 right backs apparently, surely one of them must have been from outside Europe.
I know this keep coming from lot of posters. Fact is, that list was ignored by Ole and he went with this cultural shit thing. So cut them some slack. Not saying they have been great but Maguire/AWB/James is completely on Ole and Phelan.
What has that to do with AWB transfer? Seriously, I would just appreciate if you can get the context before jump on any conclusions.Right, Varane, Sancho, Bruno must have been this cultural thing too right?
Not a suprise as under woodward we had one of the most bloated scouting networks around. To the point where on occasions multiple scouts would turn up to scout the same player for the same game and not realise their colleagues were also at the game.
It needed fixing glad action is being taken.
In that Athletic article on Bout/Lawlor leaving it cites Larsson and Chicharito as two of his signings... fecking hell if that's the best they could put together for the article on his time here.
Well what's Maguire and James got to do with AWB then?What has that to do with AWB transfer? Seriously, I would just appreciate if you can get the context before jump on any conclusions.
Bet they wish they had scribbled something down about Nkunku