with managers prefer to play same shit players, even out of positions, when better players are injured/not available.Manchester United vs Wrexham (Wed 26th July, 03:30 UK time)
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with managers prefer to play same shit players, even out of positions, when better players are injured/not available.Red cafe: 'I wish EtH would play more youngsters and give them a chance'
United play a youth team in pre season to give them exposure...
Red cafe: 'disgraceful by the club to play a youth team, they should be ashamed of themselves'
United play a youth team in pre season to give them exposure...
Red cafe: 'disgraceful by the club to play a youth team, they should be ashamed of themselves'
Not seen much of Boro. Can he fit in Carra's style?
Yeah, that's a good call as well.
Although, ideally, he'd be stepping up to a PL loan after a championship one, I do think, playing style wise, maybe a season at a top Championship club like Leicester, Southampton, Sunderland, Middlesbrough - whichever are looking to play a decent brand of attacking football - would be better for him, and gave him more opportunities of game time, than a pragmatic team in a relegation fight in the PL.
Though, as you suggested, a team like Burnley might be one of the few decent PL shouts given their style of play under Kompany.
Expected the red card to be an awful tackle seeing it was a friendly but it's a ridiculous decision on any occasion.
Yeah, I think it was definitely influenced by the first half incident between Bishop and Mullin.
Whether the ref saw / was told he should have sent Bishop off, had an earful from Wrexham's staff, or just found out that Mullin was in hospital with a punctured lung - but I think he saw the chance very early in the second half to send one of ours off and took it. But it was a poor decision, especially in a friendly - and it shouldn't have been a red even in a competive game.
Seeing the words “philosophy” and “Luton” in the same short sentence has brightened up my morning no end
Don't know a lot about Luton, if i'm honest.
Just seen Mullins out with a punctured lung - that's horrendous.
Wrexham proved they are the Premier League team and we are the league 2 team
I’m confused. You’re using those quotes as evidence that fans were conned? They couldn’t have made it any more obvious that the plan was to play the kids.
You’re lucky, very lucky.
Well done they're under 23s
Reading the football snobbery before the game , you would have thought Wrexham should have been paying United to be on the same pitch as them.
They’ve only just been promoted to League Two. They’re certainly not getting friendlies against PL teams on their merit as a football team. What’s your point?
Very physical and direct. I am concerned if we loan him to them after Birmingham. Would much rather he spends time with a team that prefers to control the game and pass the ball.
You realise we played our youth team, right? And we literally got paid to play them.
That quote was on March. Did you know this fact of playing almost non-first teamer a week or two ago? I see many here that didn't realize this info.
And "promoting youth" within "first team environment" can be massively taken as playing youths in mixed with first teamer. But yeah, you probably have better grasped from those quotes than some of us.
If the quote was from March then the moaners can’t even complain about late notice. And it makes it crystal clear we’d be playing our kids. You really couldn’t have chosen worse evidence to try and claim the fans were conned.
The only potential angle that could have been used to argue fans are misled was the Madrid game being announced after this one was already arranged. Because as soon as the Madrid game was announced there was no chance of first teamers turning out in this one. But the fact they’ve been talking about this as a match for the kids since March makes that less of an issue.
Anyone got the video of Bishop’s yellow card?
You want to watch some poor sod getting his lung punctured? How cold hearted are you?
I think he's got the perfect mix of a number 8. Can do a bit of everything. Just needs a bit more time.
That's if you specifically search Murtough quotes. But so many didn't bother or think of doing it. I know I only did that because someone said earlier that United has announced it before about playing kids. So i searched what kind of announcement United made regarding this game. Yes they did announce it on march, with vague info about non-first teamer but almost all kids.
United made it clear from day one that it would be a youthful side against Wrexham. Not sure what your problem is.
Most clued in United fans knew. There was talk about different squads on different planes heading to the US on this very forum. Also the fact that we have a game against Madrid the very next day should also be a clue.
A completely meaningless preseason game out of the way. Onto Real Madrid next
Usually a good idea to do some research before buying anything, especially pre season tickets for hundreds of dollars. The information was out there for anyone that could be bothered. Those that feel robbed don’t have a leg to stand on.
Seems like Phil Parkinson's comments were over the top and United not at all happy with them either.
It was clear as day that it was going to be a youth team. And where in Murtough's statement did it say first team players would play? He mentioned the youth players getting experience in the first team environment which they did. ten Hag was there and we were playing a first team in Wrexham.Who cares what that loser is saying.
1. Club made it clear back when the fixture was announced.
2. This is the official poster. A bit of common sense and anyone would understand that they wouldn't be using a bunch of no names in their advertising if there wasn't a good reason behind it.
3. Why on earth would United's main players face fecking Wrexham in the States? They were a Conference team when the fixture was announced ffs. What purpose would it serve? What answers would the manager get? We barely ever face teams this shite in the 3rd round of the FA cup. Again, you can't go wrong with an ounce of common sense.
I'm assuming that was in reference to if they were playing our first team rather than our U21's.
And about the rare situation of it being in the US alongside other friendlies against sides like Arsenal and Real Madrid. Normally, when a PL team play against a lower league / non league team in a friendly, it would always be at the smaller sides ground and would often be against the PL teams younger players /squad players. Often billed as a 'Man United XI' or something, to establish that it's not a first team fixture for them.
It's a very rare situation for a 4th / 5th tier team to play high profile friendlies against Man United and Chelsea in front of a large crowd abroad. And that's only the case here because of their Hollywood owners - and even then it was still only against our U21 side.
So, yeah, a 4th (last season 5th) tier club are lucky to be able to have such high profile friendlies in front of large US crowds. And are only able to do that this season because their Hollywood owners meant Chelsea and United saw the appeal in sending weakened sides to play against them there. No way a lower league Wrexham without the Hollywood owners would be getting huge clubs to agree to play them in a US based friendly. But they probably would have likely got them to send a similarly weakened team for a lower key friendly at The Racecourse Ground.
No, I’m just curious to know if it’s as bad as I’ve heard it was.
Look at all you fecking bootlickers. It’s perfectly reasonable to assume most people would’ve bought tickets assuming they’d see at least some proper Man Utd players. It doesn’t make them rubes for not seeking out a vaguely worded statement from the CFO beforehand.
United are entitled to play whoever they like obvs but the “haven’t got a leg to stand on complaining” etc stuff…. It’s fans just trying to see their team play for the first time FFS. Murtough isn’t gonna shag you.
United are entitled to play whoever they like obvs but the “haven’t got a leg to stand on complaining” etc stuff…. It’s fans just trying to see their team play for the first time FFS. Murtough isn’t gonna shag you.
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"This will be the first time the team has visited San Diego, and we are looking forward to playing in front of our passionate US fans at the Snapdragon Stadium," said John Murtough, United's football director. "Pre-season tours are always a great occasion to give opportunities for our most promising young Academy players to gain valuable experience in the first team environment, and this match against Wrexham AFC is a great example of that.
"Manchester United has a history of nurturing and promoting youth and this is a chance for not only Erik but also our US supporters to assess the homegrown talent that is developing within our academy, and hopefully to be able to say, 'I saw him here first,' if some of those players go on to establish themselves as first team regulars."
Yep. Clear as day.
Thank you, Mockney. For $180, people would think something "premium" on the show. Not an academy match against freaking Wrexham.
Youth players were being used in the main banner for advertising the game. The opening paragraph in the announcement states that it would be a "youth focused team" Look I feel bad for any fans that missed all this and spent a ridiculous amount on tickets thinking they were going to see the first team but I fail to see how it's the clubs fault.
It has even been mentioned a few times on here that it will be a game for the kids, however, unsure why some club figures like to pretend it was an opportunity for them to shine.
They're playing with the same teammates from the youth setup (no opportunity to see how they'll fare alongside senior teammates), and they're playing a side levels below us (apart from the fact that they're playing grown ups, nothing to prove how well they'll do against quality opposition). Besides those who've been on loan have been there and done that.
The one thing those who haven't been on loan will experience is playing in front of a crowd.
On a related note, I like the new setup we're trialling with the likes of Hugill though, where they're part of the U21s but play a few competitive games at the lower league levels. It's clear to see they've grown up a bit.
They're playing with the same teammates from the youth setup (no opportunity to see how they'll fare alongside senior teammates), and they're playing a side levels below us (apart from the fact that they're playing grown ups, nothing to prove how well they'll do against quality opposition). Besides those who've been on loan have been there and done that.
The one thing those who haven't been on loan will experience is playing in front of a crowd.
On a related note, I like the new setup we're trialling with the likes of Hugill though, where they're part of the U21s but play a few competitive games at the lower league levels. It's clear to see they've grown up a bit.
If someone is stupid enough to spend $180 on any meaningless preseason friendly then I've no sympathy for them tbh. Especially one against Wrexham ffs
United were not 'vague' about it - they made it perfectly clear from the off that the Wrexham game was to be used for younger academy players.
If people bought tickets without bothering to have the interest to read any of the stuff on the official site about the game - that was there to be read from the announcement of the game in March and when tickets went on sale - then that's on them not the club.
There's also the 'common sense' element: it's a pre-season friendly against a 4th, last season 5th, tier team - it should have been a likely scenario that it would be a weakened United side anyway. As would often be the case when a PL team play a side from that lower level. But as United also made it very clear from the off that that would be the case, then there should have been full expectation that that was the sort of Man United team that would be selected. It was only played in the US because of Wrexham's Hollywood owners - United always made it clear that they would be treating it as a game for their younger age group, not the first team.
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