Manchester United vs. Athletic Bilbao

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We actually look a more solid team away from home this season which is very surprising given our performances here last year.
 
Nonsense! There's no problem with tempo. There's a problem with players sitting off in midfield. Can be sorted.
 
We're just lacking a bit of composure and balance really, a problem we've had all season. Some players like jones are just a bit gung go and over run with the ball and we're getting sucked into playing a really quick passed game. We are better at a quicker tempo but we can do it more controlled then that.

Rooneys been an issue, his goal was good but his passing has been very poor today and the problem is if he's playing in this crucial playmaking role more often then not he's gonna be making a key pass and if he gets it wrong we're gonna lose the ball. I guess it goes back to what I've said before about him. Other top players can have off days where they don't quite make that final ball but with Rooney he really struggles with the basics on an off day.

Balance is another issue, we don't rely have a style we're working too as lots of the players have different ideas. Having said that I think we can clearly get through them if we want we just need more composure. I think it's important to remember that whilst they may be a young team they're also a team who have played together for a long time and in their set positions. We have a lot of players coming in who haven't played as much so there's not that same understanding, particularly in the crucial position if centre mid
 
Ggood half of football. They're playing us the same way they play against Madrid, so if we keep the ball away from them they'll run out of steam halfway through the second half. If we keep the ball.

Good point, though we seem to be set up for playing on the break.
 
What IS Jones? He's quick, he's strong, he's good on the ball but what is his position?

Reminds me of Anderson a bit sometimes. Except he's got a better figure. He needs to mature a lot to hold down any position.

Anderson is five times the midfielder jones is. Jones is just crap there
 
I actually thought Jones started off quite well, won the ball about 4 times in the first 15 minutes and made a few good runs forward, but wasnt found by Rooney. He's dipped from then though and was awful for their goal.
 
We have no Speed to our play, no creativity and no urgency They have all this and more, we simply don't have the quality in midfield- we can get away
With it in the prem but not against top European Sides. This Bilbao side are good but we are just inviting them onto us. Poor.

Fergie needs to spend in the summer big time if we are tO compete at the highest level.

I hope he does spend, Cleverley has had a lot of pressure put on him and you can't guarantee he will stay fit, Fletch has a big problem, that might limit his appearance next season, depending on his health. If we let another window go by with no reinforcements, Fergie's wish for another CL will never happen.
 
There's no reason not to change it now with us struggling so badly. It will be game over really quickly if we don't.

Edit: no changes at the start, goodbye!
 
As said by Liam147, the postbyou replied to, we've been outplayed by a lot of English PL sides too this season yet because this is a Spanish side this time, there youbare making links to it being thr better league. ITS NOT.

Or perhaps I'm using this to back up an opinion which I have held for a while, who knows ey?
 
What IS Jones? He's quick, he's strong, he's good on the ball but what is his position?

Reminds me of Anderson a bit sometimes. Except he's got a better figure. He needs to mature a lot to hold down any position.

He is 20 years old for Gods sake.
 
It's crazy to start with a midfield of 2 when one of them is Jones

Crazy to persist with 4-4-2 full stop if you ask me, we should be looking move away from it but we seem as 4-4-2 as we have ever been.
 
Here we go again. The players have a chance to put things right otherwise subs will be coming. Losing this game is simply not an option. Let's try to work harder, play smarter and show some class.
 
I can't believe that some are happy we made a cat's arse of the CL, Carlng Cup and F.A Cup and if we don't buck our ideas up the Europa League as well. It will leave Sir Alex with a big problem, that he can't trust the backup in any game.
 
you know that Carrick cannot play in every single game right?

West Bromwich, for one, are significantly inferior to Athletic Bilbao. We'll also play Wigan or Fulham at Old Trafford etc.
 
How is it dumb? He rekons La Liga aint a two team league just because were getting outplayed by Bilbao tonight in a tournament were never usually in! La liga is a better quality SPL. End of. We got outplayed on the ball by Ajax as well. I guess Holland is better thanbthe Premiership too. Cant wait for Aguero or Rooney to head over there....

La Liga has more quality than the premier league with the exception of positions 3-5
 
Oh whatever mate mate, you're boring me now. Its a two team league and PM me when the eqivialent of ManCity or Chelski are winning it........

Ok because clearly Barca and Madrid have been winning titles there exclusively for the last 25 years.
 
Crazy to persist with 4-4-2 full stop if you ask me, we should be looking move away from it but we seem as 4-4-2 as we have ever been.

I dont get these comments, its only a formation, it isnt responsible for the way we're playing tonight. With Rooney dropping deep it's probably a 4-2-3-1 anyway.
 
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