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Manchester United Summer Transfer Window 2015: What do we still need?
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No, you just don't follow transfer sagas of other clubs as closely so they feel like they don't last as long as they do for United.
That's a fair point, i think it's the same for Arsenal too although they don't sign players as much as us, not necessarily for Chelsea though.
It could also be because of the calibre of player United go for too. The higher profile the target, the longer it will take probably. Just look at the Bale transfer for Madrid, lasted all summer and went right down to the last few hours iirc. Looks like the De Gea situation could be similar for them too.
I agree Chelsea seem to get their deals done quick but I think that's because they don't really try haggle the price with the selling club. I could be wrong but it seems to me like they either to accept or decline the original price quoted pretty quickly, and if they do decline they seem to leave it at that instead of trying to negotiate it down.
Yes, you make good points - Chelsea seem to sign players early - links only last a week with them, world record deals usually get finalised in August.
I reckon when we (United) become stable our deals won't take this long anymore.
2 positions, striker and a CB.
2 positions, missionary and doggy.
2 positions, helicopter and motorboat.
2 positions, 1 club!
I would have thought we need 3 more players.
CB - Otamendi..looks a done deal.
Striker
Goalkeeper
CB - Otamendi..looks a done deal.
Striker
Goalkeeper
He doesn't want to publicly concede De Gea.
good point.
Ideally we just go on and buy:
Otamendi 30-35m
Lacazette 30-35m
Transfers done!
Otamendi 30-35m
Lacazette 30-35m
Transfers done!
The Otamendi deal looks to be approaching resolution for us, which begs the question - are we really after Ramos aswell, or are we just feckin Real around?
Seems like there's genuine interest in signing both, but maybe Otamendi is just plan B if we cant get Ramos, which looks impossible tbh..
Seems like there's genuine interest in signing both, but maybe Otamendi is just plan B if we cant get Ramos, which looks impossible tbh..
Maybe the plan was always to buy Otamendi AND a ball playing CB, now Ramos seems very unlikely we could switch our attention to Stones.
I'm coming down off my Muppet high now,
time to deliver us another signing please Sir Ed woodward.
When do people think we will announce another signing out of interest? Next week maybe?
time to deliver us another signing please Sir Ed woodward.
When do people think we will announce another signing out of interest? Next week maybe?
Maybe the plan was always to buy Otamendi AND a ball playing CB, now Ramos seems very unlikely we could switch our attention to Stones.
Always liked your style DMC
Stay strong & keep the faith fellow muppet brother - thy will be done..
We are in the final stretch of a very good muppet summer and will probably add a free back up keeper in Sergio Romero sometime this week.
So that leaves;
CB - Otamendi (Or Blind gets converted)
FW - Pedro (or a surprise)
So that leaves;
CB - Otamendi (Or Blind gets converted)
FW - Pedro (or a surprise)
if De Gea leaves (only) in a swap deal with Ramos we would need 2 GK + ST
if De Gea stays we need a GK, CB + ST
if De Gea stays we need a GK, CB + ST
IF and that's a big if we are wanting Otamendi I could see that one being done later this week, unless we are going to await the Ramos situation and then see what that brings first.
I expect the striker situation to be one that will be done at the very end of the window, LVG's comments about being happy with the forward options reinforce that IMO, So I wouldn't be surprised if we did in fact play with Memphis behind Rooney for the first few games with Chicha \ Wilson as subs until we get someone else in.
Muller this window
then Bale/Ronaldo next window pls
then Bale/Ronaldo next window pls
#1
#2---#4----#5---#3
#8----#6
#7----#10----#11
#9
#1 - *De Gea, (New Gk), Johnstone#2---#4----#5---#3
#8----#6
#7----#10----#11
#9
#2 - Darmian, Valencia
#3 - Blind, Shaw
#4 - Smalling, Jones, (McNair)
#5 - Rojo, (New CB), (McNair)
#6 - Schneiderlin, Carrick, (Goss)
#7 - Di Maria, Januzaj
#8 - Herrera, Bastian, (Pereira/Goss)
#9 - Rooney, *Hernandez, Wilson
#10 - Mata, Fellaini, (Januzaj/Pereira)
# 11- Young, Depay, (Pereira)
Valdes - only way is out - replaced with a back up goalkeeper
Lindegaard - not good enough to start or be back up - out
Evans - 27, injury prone and not good enough - replaced with a top quality defender or young talent
Blackett - not good enough at CB or LB - out
Rafael - will be sad to see him go - forced out
Lingard - need to move to better his career - out
*De Gea - if he leaves he need to be replaced with a top quality keeper
*Hernandez - if he leaves he needs to be replaced with a top quality striker
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We don't play a 4231.
Stones, Fekir and Kovacic
Our net spend will be £20m if Di Maria is gone.
We were going to spend around £120m. So £100m for a new winger, CB and striker. Also depends on De Gea leaving.
We were going to spend around £120m. So £100m for a new winger, CB and striker. Also depends on De Gea leaving.
Still need a CB and a striker. And if DDG leaves, a new keeper, although it would be interesting to see how Johnstone does if given time. Solid job as a keeper during this preseason.
I didn't think we'd need a striker with Depay/Hernandez and even Fellaini able to offer some cover there but now seeing Adnan shine there has really convinced me we don't to spend money on a striker.
Too many players and disrupt the cohesive balance a well team can have -- not allowing them to perform like a well oiled machinery.
I don't think Depay would really thrive as a forward upfront unless he learns how to play with his back to the defender more and if our other players started reading when he is going to make a run forward. For now, especially while learning how to survive the rigors of the Prem, I think he'd be better as a forward. Chicha I don't think has the tools LVG is looking for as the lone striker if were playing the 4-3-3, as he's just a pure poacher and LVG is looking for a complete forward who can lead the line create for others and score goals. One game is not enough to convince me that Adnan is our future hope at ST, as to me he's way more of a #10. Fellaini, eh, while he can hold up the play and score, just doesn't have any creative abilities with his feet. He's not a very good finisher nor an incisive passer.
Muller this window
then Bale/Ronaldo next window pls
I get the feeling that Adidas will almost certainly want someone very special unveiled to kick-off their £750,000,000 investment. If that's the case it's not something you leave to chance in the last few weeks of the transfer window lottery.
Having said that, If plans are underway, then the cards are being kept very close to a lot of peoples' chests.
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That's what I suspect as well and it would have to be kept close to chests as Nike's legal team would be on it if there was any hint of deliberately holding things back. Pedro's not really going to excite Adidas' commercial people. Maybe Ramos? Or maybe....just maybe....someone very special
If we sign Pedro and a CB then I think we are sorted and have a really nice balance throughout the squad.
De Gea, Romero
Valencia, Darmian
New CB, Smalling
Jones, Rojo, McNair
Shaw, Blind
Carrick, Schweinsteiger
Herrera, Schneiderlin, Fellaini
Pedro, Wilson
Mata, Pereira
Memphis, Young
Rooney, Hernandez, Januzaj
Obviously others can play in other positions, but number wise and quality wise we're fine to put out two quality starting 11's, and have plenty of cover if someone gets injured. Also a very good variety of players, good amount of pace, power, goalscoring and creativity in there. We can spend loads more, but we just don't need to really, and it would just unsettle the squad a bit I think. It's the best balance we've had in a squad (on paper) for a good 5 years now probably so hopefully we don't sign players who we really don't need, as it would just take games away from Pereira and Januzaj who I think will have very good seasons.
De Gea, Romero
Valencia, Darmian
New CB, Smalling
Jones, Rojo, McNair
Shaw, Blind
Carrick, Schweinsteiger
Herrera, Schneiderlin, Fellaini
Pedro, Wilson
Mata, Pereira
Memphis, Young
Rooney, Hernandez, Januzaj
Obviously others can play in other positions, but number wise and quality wise we're fine to put out two quality starting 11's, and have plenty of cover if someone gets injured. Also a very good variety of players, good amount of pace, power, goalscoring and creativity in there. We can spend loads more, but we just don't need to really, and it would just unsettle the squad a bit I think. It's the best balance we've had in a squad (on paper) for a good 5 years now probably so hopefully we don't sign players who we really don't need, as it would just take games away from Pereira and Januzaj who I think will have very good seasons.
The signings so far have been very good, but many of the same issues persist. There still isn't enough pace or quality in attack (Di Maria's imminent depart will obviously exasperate that further) and we're too soft and too niave at the back. An aggressive, dominant CB, a striker and a Di Maria replacement are all needed.
I just don't see that as a treble winning squad IMHO (esp attack).
Well you can't go from where we were to a treble winning side right away, can you? We have to wait and develop januzaj, memphis and Pereira into top players, which I think they all have great chances of becoming, before we can think about things like that. First we just need to focus on the league like we did with Fergie, and build a champions league winning team over time. Most of our squad is still very young. Give it another 3 or 4 years though, and the likes of Shaw, januzaj, Pereira, Memphis, Smalling, Jones, Herrera, schneiderlin, etc will all be close or at their prime, and all will have a great understanding with each other. 10 years ago we had ronaldo and Rooney both very young, but with huge potential and we knew that if they fulfilled it, then we would have a great team. Similar case right now IMO.
Besides, on paper, we're never going to be ahead of Barca while they have Messi (and then neymar and Suarez as well next to him). That's just the reality, no matter who we buy.
fair enough, yeah - I see where you're coming from.
Muller this window
then Bale/Ronaldo next window pls
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he is unavailable...Have to admit it's a bit of a worry, we have already bought four players but it is not impossible we will buy four more yet - GK, CB, RW, CF so that would be eight signings in one window, recent history tells us that can be a very bad thing.
For me I hope we keep DDG, get a truly top class player and a CB in, then call it a day for this window, likely though we will indeed get four more players in, nine if you include the back up keeper.
For me I hope we keep DDG, get a truly top class player and a CB in, then call it a day for this window, likely though we will indeed get four more players in, nine if you include the back up keeper.
Since he started to teach in a Chinese TV show how Bavarian people dance
Haha! He's a character!
No chance they're going to sell to us.
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