If LvG sticks to being a traditionalist and also moves to his preferred 4-3-3 then he'll have to fix it. You need 2 players for each of the 3 CM roles, now lets say he decides even at 34 Carrick has one season left, that gives us two #6's. Then you have the AM role which I imagine he will divide between Rooney and Herrera. That leaves 2 CM's needed to compete for the proper #8 role and fall in beside Blind/Carrick when if we move to 4-2-3-1 during a game.
Manchester United Summer Transfer Window 2015: What do we still need?
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If LvG sticks to being a traditionalist and also moves to his preferred 4-3-3 then he'll have to fix it. You need 2 players for each of the 3 CM roles, now lets say he decides even at 34 Carrick has one season left, that gives us two #6's. Then you have the AM role which I imagine he will divide between Rooney and Herrera. That leaves 2 CM's needed to compete for the proper #8 role and fall in beside Blind/Carrick when if we move to 4-2-3-1 during a game.
Why?
For us to win the league we need a RB, RCB (leader), world class CM, a pacey wide forward and if we are going to play 2 strikers next season we will need a top class Striker. 1-2 players is not going to cut it.
Rafael is clearly not wanted by LvG, Fellaini is too expensive to basically be the last ditch target man effort off the bench, Hernandez would occupy the role we are currently using to develop Wilson, and Mata is slower and weaker than Rooney or Herrera, who he competes with a spot for.
Weird as Fellaini, Mata and Rafael should all be in your First XI or a first choice sub. Hernandez should be a sub striker.
The Fellaini hate is ridiculous. He's been very good this season and has been an excellent plan B. I would deffo keep him, unless a really good offer came in.
I hope we spend big on a few ourstanding players of the right age profile.
I hope we don't go buying 6 "good" players when we could get 3 great players.
I hope we don't go buying 6 "good" players when we could get 3 great players.
Louis van Gaal plans spending spree summit with Glazer family
Dutchman is expected to meet owners as he looks to strengthen squad during summer with De Gea, Falcao, Hummels and Ings all on the agenda
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...spending-spree-summit-with-Glazer-family.html
Dutchman is expected to meet owners as he looks to strengthen squad during summer with De Gea, Falcao, Hummels and Ings all on the agenda
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...spending-spree-summit-with-Glazer-family.html
That article is bobbins, yes it will take some skill to negate the tricky matter of keeping De Gea and not keeping Falcao given the Mendes connection, but this is big business not kids games. The part about Ings is stupid, we may suddenly be interested because he had a solid game the other night? and they suggest a possible £5M fee while saying in the article that he's free come the summer. 
Well there will actually be a fee given his age. He'd have to be over 24 (?) to be completely free.That article is bobbins, yes it will take some skill to negate the tricky matter of keeping De Gea and not keeping Falcao given the Mendes connection, but this is big business not kids games. The part about Ings is stupid, we may suddenly be interested because he had a solid game the other night? and they suggest a possible £5M fee while saying in the article that he's free come the summer.
See Sturridge to Chelsea.
I didnt say Roo up top, but in a second striker role. That can't be a bridge too far.
I hear you on RvP. But we can't be in for 6 starters, unless we really do have hundreds of millions to spend on fees and wages. If that's the case, we're in pure galactico mode.
I thought the age cut-off was 21 and I also didn't realize Ings had been with Burnely from being a teenager.
In the second striker role or as an AM -4-3-3 is where I think Rooney will be, but that absolutely means we still need a fresh striker.
I think we do and we are, the team has gapingly obious holes in it in all areas of the pitch, we might as well address them in one move so all can gel together.
You're onto something, but I still can't see us spending in one summer the 200m+ it would take to buy 6 starters of the quality we would demand.
I think players become free at 23/24, definitely not 21.
And every sports reporting outlet in the country said Liverpool's attempt to secure Ings this January was thwarted by the fact that Burnley were in a position to take them to a tribunal in the summer. However they're leaving themselves open to a major loss if he happens to go abroad.
For example, had Pogba gone to Man City we may have received £6.5m, but because he went to Juve it was reported to be much closer to a £1m. I don't know the finer details of what they measure in these compensation packages, but it definitely applies to Ings based on the fact he's in the relevant age bracket, Burnley can prove the cost of resource put into him and it would be odd for all journalists to say it would go to tribunal and wouldn't be a free deal if indeed it was a free deal.
This summer should be about reengineering the balance of the squad to make it geared towards playing a more solid structure. I don't think we can do that effectively if Robin and Falcao are still here and without deciding Rooney's role to the benefit of the team. For improvement of our overall play I think we need to play him as a lone striker because you know that while he has his shortcomings he will always score goals.
Having done that then we can look at getting a typical United winger, whether that is Depay or someone else I don't know. In midfield Blind has surpassed expectations and I would like to see him grow in the role and in his status in the team/game in general. Consequently that means bringing in a more physical box to box player to partner Blind, Schneiderlin being my preferred signing. In defence I think a starting RB, a truly WC centre back and a utility man to cover both FB positions.
I think we still need to bring in these or players in their ilk;
Depay at £20m - $25m
Schneiderlin at £25m - $30m
Clyne/Coleman at £20m
Godin at $30m
The other role should be a Rojosque punt at around £15m.
If we start the next season with a starting eleven like this
-----------De Gea
Clyne--Godin-Rojo--Shaw
-----------Blind
---Schneiderlin--Di Maria
Nani*----Rooney--Depay
*could be Januzaj on the right or Mata in the hole with ADM coming in on the right.
Schneiderlin and Blind/Carrick can be used in a double pivot and it doesn't have to be Schneiderlin only but a player in his ilk who has a balanced skill set i.e who can defend and attack in equal measure so that we aren't as easy to play through as we are now.
Having done that then we can look at getting a typical United winger, whether that is Depay or someone else I don't know. In midfield Blind has surpassed expectations and I would like to see him grow in the role and in his status in the team/game in general. Consequently that means bringing in a more physical box to box player to partner Blind, Schneiderlin being my preferred signing. In defence I think a starting RB, a truly WC centre back and a utility man to cover both FB positions.
I think we still need to bring in these or players in their ilk;
Depay at £20m - $25m
Schneiderlin at £25m - $30m
Clyne/Coleman at £20m
Godin at $30m
The other role should be a Rojosque punt at around £15m.
If we start the next season with a starting eleven like this
-----------De Gea
Clyne--Godin-Rojo--Shaw
-----------Blind
---Schneiderlin--Di Maria
Nani*----Rooney--Depay
*could be Januzaj on the right or Mata in the hole with ADM coming in on the right.
Schneiderlin and Blind/Carrick can be used in a double pivot and it doesn't have to be Schneiderlin only but a player in his ilk who has a balanced skill set i.e who can defend and attack in equal measure so that we aren't as easy to play through as we are now.
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I think there will be sales to go along with the buys and some of the players like Memphis and Dybala and even Clyne are in the last years of their contracts so we shouldn't be talking £40M for each type of deals.
Thanks for the info mate, always interesting to leanr about these things. I honestly didn't realize the age point for compensation went so high.
If Clyne is in his last year of his contract, it's a no brainer. £20m max.
I would love to see us go for Bale if there is any chance of it happening.
I would love to see us go for Bale if there is any chance of it happening.
Yep Bale is a superstar signing and I wouldn't mind that, Clyne is decent but would prefer Coleman for his attacking play we have enough at left back so don't have to worry about double cover i.e Clyne covering both positions. Centre mid is needed a top class one would again be brilliant and I think we are ok at centre half but would get rid of Evans and buy a replacement and if he is better than Smalling Jones or Rojo brilliant but I like the look of Smalling and Rojo.
So to recap a winger (with pace) a right back and a centre mid of real stature.
Prediction;
OUT
Falcao
Hernandez
Valencia
Nani
IN
Dani Alvez (short term fix)
Depay
Dybala
Varane
OUT
Falcao
Hernandez
Valencia
Nani
IN
Dani Alvez (short term fix)
Depay
Dybala
Varane
Mendes can go feck himself, we have no obligation to please this idiot. If anything he has an obligation to please the bigger clubs. I'm sure Woodward can build more influence than him anyway and make him irrelevant.
Would be absolutely delighted with that. Would be pretty much a perfect summer. Varane ain't happening though. Marquinos maybe more realistic.
This was my inital thought but then i thought of the age of Ramos and Pepe and he would need to wait a year or 2 to be completely first choice there, where as here he would be straight in and bossing it!!
It's difficult to know what we need given how we still don't know what system to play in. Obviously we may need an established center-back.
Absolutely. He's clearly a good, effective player, who has probably been our best player this season.
I wanted him gone before the start of the season, but his performances have proven he is an important player for us. I don't understand agenda posters who are incapable of changing their opinions of players.
It has nothing to do with agenda's, Felliani has been ok when called upon, clearly not enough to cement a place though and if we are going to fix our midfield then space has to be made, out of him and Herrera I'd sell him first, nothing to do with agendas.
He's been much better than okay this season, and 'clearly not good enough' is absolute bollocks. It might be your opinion but it certainly isn't clear that he isn't good enough. Anybody with half a brain can see that after how he's played this season when called upon.
If Rooney was being played where he should be then there would be no reason to get rid of either Herrera or Fellaini, both are comfortably good enough to be at least squad players.
I said he clearly hasn't done enough to cement his place in the team, so under the current manager he hasn't done enough, that's obvious by how much time he's spent on the bench in the last 3 months. Neither him or Herrera fit what LvG wants by the look of things, but if one is to be kept when LvG overhauls, my money would be on the younger, more technically proficient CM that LvG can mold, rather than the guy he's referred to repeatedly as a forward in the last few press conferences.
So LvG's latest tidbit makes it clear a box to box CM is a priority for him this summer and hopefully he and the board realize that Strootman is a no go, but there are still some good options that will see Di Maria/Herrera get the AM role and Rooney moved back up top which will no doubt5 go down we on the Caf. 
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so finally someone will adress our midfield problem? I do not agree playing Rooney there but that we are missing for that role is obvious. I like Herrera and want him to play but not for that job. (would love a 4-3-3 of Herrera - Pogba - ) For years we are missing a strong midfielder to dominate central areas. As much as I dislike Pogba, he is exactly that type of player we are missing. I like koke as well but I hope we are not signing another CAM to solve our midfield.
Anderson came here a being a CAM, was a disaster. Then Fellaini, too limited abilities and also more effective in other areas of the pitch. Mata and Herrera are good signings but are attacking players.
So Pogba or Strootman (if fit) would suit us. Maybe Schneiderlin but so far I think he is overrated.
Anderson came here a being a CAM, was a disaster. Then Fellaini, too limited abilities and also more effective in other areas of the pitch. Mata and Herrera are good signings but are attacking players.
So Pogba or Strootman (if fit) would suit us. Maybe Schneiderlin but so far I think he is overrated.
I like him, but after Liverpool's foray into the Southampton pool of players last season I would be wary. Manchester United is a lot bigger club than Southampton, so it is if he can handle the step up.
If he'd be at this level with 21-22 I'd be more positive, but at 25 a player who ends up a world class footballer should be better / further in his development.
I see Ogden has us linked with Danny Ings in the summer.
To be fair he can't do any worse than what Falcao has done for us.
Ogden has absolutely zero sources now Moyes has stopped whispering sweet nothings into his ear.
True. Can see him ending up at Liverpool to be honest.
Somebody said that Wayne Rooney and Juan Mata had a word with him after the game.
Fans do have a tendency of wanting to replace half the squad every summer. Florentino Perez too apparently! People are deluding themselves if they think we're gonna buy like 5 world class players in the summer. A top centre back and a pacey winger and we will look way better I believe.
Well you definitely need to add a CM to that as LvG has already openly said he intends to buy one of those in the summer, and given RvP is finished and Falcao wont be kept it seems logical to bring in a younger, modern forward to the side, hence our scouting or Dybala and the recent Ings rumours. I also would expect 2 CB's given not a single one the bunch we have, have stood out at all this season.
I can't remember where I hold it. They were laughing about it though. Mata deliberately waited to have a word.Really?
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