Manchester United Summer Transfer Window 2015: What do we still need?

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I'm discounting Rooney up top as the main #9 and any ideas that invovle Herrera as a starting CM, don't see either happening. Look at the type of CM's LvG has liked, Davids, Seedorf, Schweinstieger, van Bommel and Strootman, I think he will certainly add a powerful CM to the team this summer.

CB - Hummels and Marquinhos (can also cover RB)
CM - Schneiderlin/Allan and Koke/Modric
Forward - Memphis and Dybala/Lacazette
 
Two of Bale, Depay and Reus.

Clyne.

A centre back.

A top draw midfielder e.g. Pogba.

Would cost more than last summer even but it's what is needed.
 
Who has the main say on signings? Last years motley crew seems too poorly judged to be LVG. Is Woodward deciding transfer targets? If so i think we'll definitely see Falcao here next year. Depressing thought. But hes a big name and that seems like our plan. Big signings we don't need and poor squad players.

I've got little faith in our summer strategy. 3 months chasing Ronaldo or Bale. Get neither, sell DDG and end up with Falcao for 40 million.

We'll also probably sign Strootman for way too much and after two bad knee injuries won't cope with the Premier league.

City will get Pogba. Chelsea will sign someone brilliant for peanuts and sell Remy for £35 million. Sounds like fun.
 
Im worried about the summer. Considering we have no real clear identifiable way of playing, I fear we will sign superstars who don't fit into a system.

Di Maria for example. We don't seem to have a clue how we want to use him, yet spent what £60m on him? £30m on Herrera to warm the bench. I could see us doing the same in the summer.
 
Bwuk said:
Im worried about the summer. Considering we have no real clear identifiable way of playing, I fear we will sign superstars who don't fit into a system.

Di Maria for example. We don't seem to have a clue how we want to use him, yet spent what £60m on him? £30m on Herrera to warm the bench. I could see us doing the same in the summer.
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I'm less concerned, I think now LvG has managed us for a season he will have a very clear idea of what he wants come the summer, my biggest worry is who we can get if we fail to make the top 4.
 
Obviously on the presumption we make the top 4, I think we should target:

1. Paul Pogba
2. Lacazette and Dybala/Depay
3. One good right-back
4. A top class centre-half, most likely to be Hummels.

I'd like to see Falcao go, and possibly RVP (perhaps Juve still want him, they buy every striker going and may help with Pogba). I'd also like to see Rooney demoted from captain, although I'm reckon the captaincy was written into that ridiculous contract he signed last year. Anyway, his untouchable status should be questioned. I'd like one proper striker, and if we bring in Lacazette, I'd like there to actually be a competition, as opposed to us having to change system if he is a success in order to accomodate Rooney.

I'd like some width in the team, perhaps a 4-3-3. Ultimately, a settled team, in terms of system and personnel. We have too many players it seems, the chopping and changing should stop where possible. We seem to have no idea what we want to do, or who we are. Different system every two or three games, and it is clear the players have no cohesion. It's making them look worse than they are.
 
RB, CB, pace upfront and possibly a box to box (depending on how highly Herrera/Fellaini are rated).

1. Hummels/Varane/Laporte/Marquinhos
2. Bale/Reus/Depay/Lacazette (not seen enough of him)/Dybala (that is the "new Aguero" right?)
3. Clyne/Coleman (please not Alves)
4. Vidal/Verratti/Koke/Pogba

Unattainables probably: Pogba ($$$), Bale ($$$), Reus, Varane.

Let go: RvP, Falcao, Mata (sadly lack of pace/power/defensive work - and a preference for 2 up top, seems to be costing him a consistent place in the team), and personally 1 of Fellaini/Herrera. (both pretty expensive to be sitting on the bench).
 
And the transfers came in 2 by 2 hurrah, hurrah!

I definitely think we need 2 in each area, defensively most of them look shot, I still maintain Smalling is the best bet from the senior 3 and I think Rojo will be fine, but a couple of additions is a must.

I know some don't think midfield is a priority still but I do, Rooney is not a CM, Carrick is 34 and I think LvG now sees Fellaini as a special occasion type of player for when we need to be ultra direct. So basically a defensive CM and a playmaker to compete with Blind and Ander would be ideal.

I don't think we can do without a new striker and added wide man, Rooney is very unlikely to play up top much anymore and Falcao and RvP are both done like dinners.
 
Sell/Release/Not Sign:

  • Fellaini
  • Mata
  • Hernandez
  • Nani
  • Rafael
  • Young
  • Evans
  • Falcao
  • Blackett
  • Johnstone
  • Will Keane
Buy:
  • New LCB
  • New RB
  • Pogba/Schneiderlin
  • Reus/Bale
Give opportunities to:
  • Periera
  • Lingard
  • Pearson
  • Henriquez
  • Powell
 
nokillingmoths said:
Who has the main say on signings? Last years motley crew seems too poorly judged to be LVG. Is Woodward deciding transfer targets? If so i think we'll definitely see Falcao here next year. Depressing thought. But hes a big name and that seems like our plan. Big signings we don't need and poor squad players.

I've got little faith in our summer strategy. 3 months chasing Ronaldo or Bale. Get neither, sell DDG and end up with Falcao for 40 million.

We'll also probably sign Strootman for way too much and after two bad knee injuries won't cope with the Premier league.

City will get Pogba. Chelsea will sign someone brilliant for peanuts and sell Remy for £35 million. Sounds like fun.
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My god,is your glass always half empty? Do you regard rojo blind and shaw as poor squad playera btw?
 
Mali_Zeus said:
My god,is your glass always half empty? Do you regard rojo blind and shaw as poor squad playera btw?
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Ha ha. Not usually. Rojo is absolutely a squad player, wouldn't get a game at chelsea, arsenal or city. Shaw is as yet unproven but should be great. Blind has done well but i'm not convinced he is the answer. He's probably been the best of the summer signings though. Herrera is another one. Looks ok, has he got the talent to be great? Seems like a better Cleverly to me.
 
nokillingmoths said:
Ha ha. Not usually. Rojo is absolutely a squad player, wouldn't get a game at chelsea, arsenal or city. Shaw is as yet unproven but should be great. Blind has done well but i'm not convinced he is the answer. He's probably been the best of the summer signings though. Herrera is another one. Looks ok, has he got the talent to be great? Seems like a better Cleverly to me.
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No way herrera is just a better cleverley. As for rojo I dont think ge wouldnt get a game at clubs mentioned,he wouldnt be first choice but ge would get his chance,its not that their cbs are all world beaters.
 
Mali_Zeus said:
No way herrera is just a better cleverley. As for rojo I dont think ge wouldnt get a game at clubs mentioned,he wouldnt be first choice but ge would get his chance,its not that their cbs are all world beaters.
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True, i am just not convinced yet.

Herrera is a funny one, not a wc playmaker, not big enough to be a dominant force, or disciplined enough to sit deeper. Won't score you 15 a season. but can do a good job at most. Very similar in my opinion. Better but similar.
 
nokillingmoths said:
True, i am just not convinced yet.

Herrera is a funny one, not a wc playmaker, not big enough to be a dominant force, or disciplined enough to sit deeper. Won't score you 15 a season. but can do a good job at most. Very similar in my opinion. Better but similar.
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I'm pretty sure out of our midfielders hes been one of the most productive of ours in terms of goals and assists per minutes played. Only behind Di Maria.

EDIT: Cleverly couldn't dream of being that productive.
 
Some Muppet show but it would look great:

1. Memphis Depay
2. Aymeric Laporte or Raphaël Varane
3. Kevin Strootman or Jorge Resurrección Koke and / or Morgan Schneiderlin
4. Paulo Dybala or Mauro Icardi
5. Alexandre Lacazette
6. Nathaniel Clyne
7. Dani Alves

I dislike Dani personally, but I think he will sign, he might prove to be useful backup for right back position.

We are also linked with Saido Berahino, is he good. I only saw him in games against United, and he seems great talent, but it's not enough to really judge him?
 
So many names being mentioned.
Typically, for progression, you need 1-2 marquee players and 1-2 squad players.
Any more than this and you risk players not gelling.
If you buy 6 players, for example, you will have problems.

Last Summer we bought many players. The only players to have proved themselves as good buys are Rojo and Blind.
Herrera rarely gets a game. LVG doesnt trust this guy.
Di Maria is certainly not playing like the most expensive player in Britain.
Falcao - no comment.
Shaw - made of glass and hardly plays.

In the case of Di Maria and Herrera - these are not bad players, but LVG is having problems of where to fit them in. I think this is more down to the fact that we bought too many first team players, in a single window.
 
SammyUnited_83 said:
We need Pogba, but appears City bound as a Yaya replacement.
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I don't think they will be able to afford him. Juventus will ask for top dollar and with FFP restrictions they won't really be allowed to spend £60m+ on a single player when they are going to need to rebuild half of their team.
 
You just know he's gonna score for City at OT against us...
 
Redo91 said:
Not sure where you are getting this from?

Edit: Nothing on twitter about this. I call BS.
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Read the latest UWS, got it today. Also an update (negative) on DDG. Whether you choose to believe it or not is up to you, me personally always thought he was more hit than miss. But hoping he is wrong.
 
SammyUnited_83 said:
Read the latest UWS, got it today. Also an update (negative) on DDG. Whether you choose to believe it or not is up to you, me personally always thought he was more hit than miss. But hoping he is wrong.
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Find both hard to believe. No way City can afford Pogba considering they have already infringed FFP regulations. De Gea's agent recently said he is due to stay and sign an extension. I'll be picking up a copy of UWS tomorrow so will give it a read then (not saying it isn't in it). I always thought Mitten was reliable but in saying that he got a lot wrong in the summer.
 
SammyUnited_83 said:
Read the latest UWS, got it today. Also an update (negative) on DDG. Whether you choose to believe it or not is up to you, me personally always thought he was more hit than miss. But hoping he is wrong.
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I saw the De Gea stuff, something about him telling Johnstone not to go to Preston permanently as he'll be leaving soon. Sounds like a load of bollocks to me.
 
I dont think we need a major rebuild, more crucial is selling some of the deadwood/veterans etc so that we can actually start playing the good players properly.

GK - Assuming DDG stays we are fine, if he leaves then we have Valdes, although I wouldnt object to us trying for a longer term replacement (personally I think he will stay this summer at least).

RB - This is one of the key areas we need to strengthen. I would get rid of Valencia and Rafael (I love Rafael but he isnt reliable enough to be first choice, so I think he has to go). Top priority would be Coleman, with McNair as backup.
CB - Sell Evans, leaving us with Smalling, Jones and Rojo. I would consider buying an experienced CB like Hummels, but that would be about it.
LB - Fine. Shaw first choice, Blackett/Young/Blind/Rojo as backups.

DM - Carrick and Blind. Potentially Jones or Fellaini (or apparently Rooney) can fill in if needed. If we are playing 4-3-3 though we only need one true DM.
CM - Herrera, Fellaini, Di Maria are all good options for the CMs in 4-3-3.

Wings - Di Maria, Januzaj and personally I hope Nani returning, makes a good set of wingers for us.
Striker - Rooney first choice, RVP backup, Wilson as the third option.

A lot depends on who leaves, who doesnt return (ie Nani and Hernandez) etc but I dont think we are in dire need of half a dozen world class players. We need to sign a first choice RB, and perhaps could strengthen with a versatile Winger/Forward like Bale or Reus. Realistically that should give us a more balanced squad with plenty of quality.
 
J-Stander said:
I saw the De Gea stuff, something about him telling Johnstone not to go to Preston permanently as he'll be leaving soon. Sounds like a load of bollocks to me.
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:lol: That does sound like complete rubbish to be fair. Why would De Gea going have any bearing on Johnstone's future at the club?
 
Redo91 said:
:lol: That does sound like complete rubbish to be fair. Why would De Gea going have any bearing on Johnstone's future at the club?
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Just saying DDG has told him he won't be around to get in his way.

Not sure why people think City can't afford Pogba, they can sell a couple of players, probably get some crazy sponsorship deal and ultimately they don't give a toss about FFP.
 
The perfect scenario; Pogba, Hummels/Laporte, Depay, Clyne and some young talented striker perhaps.


----------------De Gea------------
Clyne-------Hummels----Rojo----Shaw

----------------Blind------------
-----------Pogba-----Di Maria-----

Januzaj--------------Depay
-----------Rooney----------


That team could do damage to be fair. With a strong bench

Valdes,Jones,Mcnair,Nani,Herrera,Valencia,RVP

I'd keep Nani, he could be very effective in this formation and seems to have recaptured some form over in Portugal.
 
J-Stander said:
I saw the De Gea stuff, something about him telling Johnstone not to go to Preston permanently as he'll be leaving soon. Sounds like a load of bollocks to me.
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Oh yeah Johnstone is definitely holding out for the United #1 gloves and of all the people for De Gea to reveal his future to, it's him.
 
SammyUnited_83 said:
Just saying DDG has told him he won't be around to get in his way.

Not sure why people think City can't afford Pogba, they can sell a couple of players, probably get some crazy sponsorship deal and ultimately they don't give a toss about FFP.
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Even if he had would Johnstone really go around telling people that?

He will cost an absolute fortune. Considering they have an ageing squad I can't think of many players they could sell of for £30+ million like Chelsea seem to do. I'm not saying I take what footballers say in the public as gospel but he has spoken really highly about the club and I can't see him joining City as a result. Would love him back here but if that doesn't happen I expect to see him at Real next season. Certainly on his way in the summer.
 
I sometimes wonder if some are watching our games and looking at our manager and how he wants to play, unless some of these line-ups are in the hope he'll be sacked in the summer.
 
We're not going to completely overhaul the squad, so you reprobates can put the KY Jelly or whatever you use away.

1 or 2 key acquisitions are all that is necessary to compete for the prem trophy. 1 or 2 more acquisitions will be required to compete for the CL trophy.

First, let's knock out the easy issues.
  • Sign De Gea to a new contract.
  • Let Falcao go. It ain't working, whatever the reason may be
  • Bring Chicharito back to backfill Falcao.
Bringing back Chicharito is actually a no-brainer. Be careful not interpret this as saying that Chicharito is a no-brainer to start for us. All I'm saying is that he's good enough to be in the four man rotation at striker, the others being RvP, Rooney (striker, not a midfielder) and Wilson.

The first key acquisition has to be a box to box midfielder. This is so far beyond obvious I'm embarrassed that valuable server space has to be eaten up with this sentence.

The second acquisition, if our horde of cash is that big, has to be for a central defender. We start by selling the woeful Evans and then proceed to decide between selling Smalling or Jones, which is a close call. A quartet of CBs comprising Hummels or Marquinhos, Rojo, Smalling or Jones and McNair would be pretty decent.

We're not buying Bale, although it is a great thought. We're not signing Pogba, although it would be a dream come true if we did.

I'm good with Rafael and Shaw. An in-form Di Maria is pretty ridiculous. Young and Valencia are solid for depth. I really do like Herrera, but he does need to raise his game to the intense physical standards of the English prem. Fellaini, solid depth. Mata is a bit of enigma and his situation does demand resolution.

Push Roo up, where he belongs.

Problem solved!

De Dea
Rafael Marquinhos Rojo Shaw
Vidal Blind
Herrera Rooney Di Maria
RvP or Chicharito

Vidal has peaked but still has plenty of engine on both sides of the ball to be an incredible asset for us -- provided he's not played out of position like other United players -- and would IMHO complement Blind well. Marquinhos isn't the only defender I'd want to consider, but I'm not at all afraid of young defenders.

The critical piece of this puzzle is getting Rooney out of midfield and back into a more forward role. His finishing isn't as lethal as it once was, but he's still a terrifying presence inside the box and is completely wasted as a midfielder. Play Di Maria in wide positions, either left or right. Herrera is no wide midfielder but as Roo pushes up Ander slides into a more central positions, which is where he belongs. And if we don't like Ander, we go with Mata, who is a bit more useful in slightly wide positions.

And for the love of God let's abandon the discredited and easily defended 352.

This is doable, amigos.
 
^^^ That's a disaster, RvP is finished, Vidal is doubtful and Rafael has very little hope of being here next season. You wrote a really long post in a semi all knowing manner yet ignore the fact that people can whine and moan about Rooney up top all you want, LvG is unlikely to do it. We need a new striker, a new wide man, 2 new CM's and 2 new CB's, we can't have Marquinhos and Rojo as our two CB's, Hummels or Godin are a must, we need a leader back there.
 
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