captain666
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In the event we make any January signings they will immediately turn into mediocre shite players under Jose!
We don’t actually know all the players he wanted. No one had a clue about Dalot did they? We have signed younger players, its ok to get some experience that we lack as well. People will bang on about supposed targets rather than focus on who he has actually signed.
Those were both punts basically, buying potential not the end-product, and they have shown they can be class if they get their mentality straight. But getting someone like Koulibaly or Skriniar in January would be a very different story. Jose with a better squad or Jose with the current squad is the question. Seems odd to want to be in a situation where Jose will be here til spring anyway, but not buy any players who we clearly need, Jose or no Jose.
Deluded if you think we’re getting them players a those prices. Sancho alone will be 60m+.£30 M: Jadon Sancho
£30 M: Harry Maguire
£25 M: Alderwereld
£20 M: Richarlison
Pretty good additions and a good mixture of youth and experience. £100 M can go a long way.
Well Romagnoli's price just went up after that goal against Genoa.
On a serious note, if the board "vetos" a bid for Skriniar, what kind of center back would they prefer, you're not getting any better than Skriniar.
United didn't give Jose the money in the summer yet they'll give him the money now when we're practically failing and arguably need to part ways.
Dafuq ?
This club.
We may try and get a bargain basement player, though. Are there any very old CBs available, who won't cost much or might even be available on a free transfer?
The briefings from him are exactly the opposite of this.
£30 M: Jadon Sancho
£30 M: Harry Maguire
£25 M: Alderwereld
£20 M: Richarlison
Pretty good additions and a good mixture of youth and experience. £100 M can go a long way.
The briefings from Woodie are that we will pay big money for Galactico class signings.
He means that he is not prepared to spend big money on old players, like Boateng or non Galacticos like Maguire.
However, if an older player is available, for very little money or a free transfer, then I think, he'll absolutely bite.
The briefings from Woodie are that we will pay big money for Galactico class signings.
He means that he is not prepared to spend big money on old players, like Boateng or non Galacticos like Maguire.
However, if an older player is available, for very little money or a free transfer, then I think, he'll absolutely bite.
£30 M: Jadon Sancho
£30 M: Harry Maguire
£25 M: Alderwereld
£20 M: Richarlison
Pretty good additions and a good mixture of youth and experience. £100 M can go a long way.
>25 = Zlatan, Sanchez, Mikhitaryan, Matic, Fred, Grant (6)
<25 = Pogba, Bailly, Lukaku, Lindelof, Dalot.
(5)
Why wouldn’t I list Lee Grant? Jose signed him.
It’s obvious to everyone that Mourinho’s other primary targets were at the tail end of their careers. It’s not just paper talk.
Edit: Mate, I’m not even advocating that any player over 25 can’t do a job for us, that’s obviously not the case, but rather that Jose being short-sighted and prone to buying older players for the now isn’t just a made up narrative.
Do we lack it tho?
De Gea 7 seasons in pl
Valencia +10 seasons
Smalling 9 seasons
Young + 10 seasons
Fellaini 10 seasons
Mata 7 seasons in pl +5 in Spain
Herrera 4 seasons in pl + 5 in Spain
Lukaku 5 seasons
Matic 4 seasons in pl + 3 in Portugal
Pogba 2 seasons in pl + 4 in Italy
Jones 9 seasons
Rojo 4 seasons in pl + 2 in Portugal
Darmian 3 seasons in pl + 5 in Italy
Sanchez 4 seasons in pl + 6 in Spain and Italy
They need to have real quality as well. You are throwing in ex wingers turned fullback, and players who dont even play. Smalling should not be our first choice most experienced CB, it’s ridiculous.
£30 M: Jadon Sancho
£30 M: Harry Maguire
£25 M: Alderwereld
£20 M: Richarlison
Pretty good additions and a good mixture of youth and experience. £100 M can go a long way.
I know some of them are not good enough.
You claimed we lacked experience, and i say we have it in abundance in our squad.
Umm, Willian and Perisic were confirmed targets. Boateng himself confirmed that he spoke to Mourinho and turned us down.We don’t actually know all the players he wanted. No one had a clue about Dalot did they? We have signed younger players, its ok to get some experience that we lack as well. People will bang on about supposed targets rather than focus on who he has actually signed.
Umm, Willian and Perisic were confirmed targets. Boateng himself confirmed that he spoke to Mourinho and turned us down.
Those prices can be achieved if we can find a time machine to transport us back to 2006
My point was that he has targeted expensive, aging players who aren't that good to begin with. I'm not even sure why you're trying to argue with that. Your reply instead is that we don't know who else we targeted. Well we still do know some of the names he really wanted, and that's what I'm basing it off.Ok? The point is we don't know who else was targeted. He signed Bailly, Lukaku, Pogba, Dalot and Lindelof. I dont want to hear this shite about him only signing older players.
My point was that he has targeted expensive, aging players who aren't that good to begin with. I'm not even sure why you're trying to argue with that. Your reply instead is that we don't know who else we targeted. Well we still do know some of the names he really wanted, and that's what I'm basing it off.
Why didn’t we just give him this in the summer? 100m would sort our right wing out.
Because that tw@t ed knows better than one of the most successful managers of all time...
We were all ecstatic with almost all of Mourinho's signings. They were great players to get. Pogba, Matic, Mkhitaryan, Lukaku, Sanchez--go back to the day before we signed them and we would all have voted yes. Bailly started out great, too. The rest are too early to make any kind of judgment. You can look at them now and see that something isn't working, but this is the case for practically every player in the squad. There's clearly something very wrong at the club, and has been for years, which affects the whole team. Something's making them all crap. You can't conclude from this that they were all bad signings. Most of them have shown in the past that they can offer precisely what we need, but when they arrive here, they get hit by whatever malady is hindering the entire team. Calling them bad signings is like hiring a guy and then calling him yet another an ineffective employee when he gets sick from the asbestos in the office, like all your other employees have. Fix the fecking asbestos.
Agreed. But it goes further back than players that came in under JM. Di-Maria, Falcao, Memphis were supposed to be stars under LVG, Schweini & Schneiderlin were also seen as good buys at the time. We also expected Mata to make a real difference under Moyes. After SAF retired, most signings have been duds.
All those players listed that really flopped were older signings apart from Memphis. It’s clear we need to stop signing players on reputation, that don’t suit our style of football and that don’t really have any hunger to play for us either. They were the wrong profile of players. They had all already peaked (Memphis aside once again)
Di-Maria was still at his prime age, and was sought after by PSG. Schneiderlin was also just entering the prime age.
But I do agree that it’s clear we need to stop signing players on reputation or that don’t suit our needs. We need a better strategy and are crying out for a director of football, the board is not good enough.
Why didn’t we just give him this in the summer? 100m would sort our right wing out.
Why didn’t we just give him this in the summer? 100m would sort our right wing out.
When it comes to player recruitment since Mourinho's arrival, this particular one is unacceptable. Five transfer windows on—we still have no RW. Granted, there haven't exactly been too many that fit the profile we're looking for, but what the hell.
And now, with the subsequent inflation following the transfers of Neymar, Mbappé and Dembélé… not to mention the mandatory add-on tax that seems exclusive to United's signings only, 100m sounds about right, and whether that's in £ or € is probably not a deciding factor at this point.
I think the player in bold could surprisingly be made available in the next transfer window or two, and I hope he's on our radar.
We’d probably be moaning like feck about how we’d wasted £60 million on Willian.