Manchester United - January 2018 Ins and Outs

Okey.. I might be crazy but... Jack Wilshere? Feisty, tough midfielder with an eye for a pass. Certainly a good CM option for United when Pogba or Matic needs to rest. Herrera is having a poor season, Fellaini might leave, Carrick is finished. Thoughts?
 
For the next 2 windows, would probably do something like... (half realistic what I think will happen, half hoping). Also assuming we have about 150m to spend before sales.
Sell:
  • Fellaini - 10m in Jan or free in the summer
  • Darmian - 15m
  • Rojo - 20m
  • Blind - 25m
  • Smalling/Jones (one of them. They've done well but won't ever be someone we settle on so better to cut and build someone we can rely on) - 20m
  • Carrick (retire)
  • Mkhitaryan - 25m
120m or so.

Incomings:
Dream/unlikely scenario
  • Sanchez - free
  • Lemar - 70m
  • Goretzka - free
  • Dybala - 100m
  • Alex Sandro - 60m
  • Center back - 30m
De gea
Valencia Bailly ??? Sandro
Matic
Pogba Lemar
Dybala Sanchez Martial
2nd 11: Romero, young, Jones, lindelof, Shaw, Herrera, goretzka, Mata, lingard, rashford, lukaku

More realistic
  • Milinkovic Savic - 70m
  • Alex Sandro - 60m
  • Malcom - 40m
  • A reliable, preferably experienced center back - 25m
  • Ozil - free
De gea
Valencia Bailly ??? Sandro
Matic
Savic Pogba
Ozil Lukaku Martial
Romero, young, Jones, lindelof, Shaw, Herrera, TFM?, Malcom, Mata, Lingard, Rashford

Obviously this is all going in FM mode, but the outgoings are all players who I really think we would do better with just selling and replacing. Incomings, most important style wise are IMO:
  • Lemar - a creative, nimble midfielder who can dribble with it and also deliver reliably. Would play that similar role to David Silva, eriksen, coutinho, etc. As the midfielder next to pogba
  • Goretzka - pogba back up but also good enough to play alongside and become a top player
  • World class front 3 player (Sanchez, Dybala, ozil at a stretch) - Martial has potential but we need a top player to help the young players get there. Lukaku isn't that and won't ever be. Nobody really plays the right wing so that would be perfect. But this one is hard to see other then Ozil who would still be good.
If we sort those 3 out, then it'll go way further to our development as a team then signing any defensive player. There's obviously issues there, but we can get by with what we have.

Good post.

I largely agree with your exit list, but with a few amendments

Smalling - keep until the summer due to injury/ settling issues at the club. In an ideal world I would sell him now due to his limited technical ability

Jones - deserves a 12 more months to prove he can be largely injury free. He's a strong defender when he's had a few games of form.

Herrera - I've lost patience with him. Great last season, but very inconsistant and at his peak. Should get around 30m fit him

Sam Johnstone- good keeper, but never going to be world class. Sell for 5 - 10m

Romero - amazing keeper that wants away due to it being a world cup year. Could be 20 - 35m if we want to take a minor risk of having henderson/ perrerira as 2nd choice
 
I think we will sign someone in January

we've hit some poor form and injuries and suspensions to Pogba, Bailly, Fellaini, Carrick, Valencia etc have left us really weak at times

we can't rely on a number of players to perform and if we want to make sure we get second and have an improved second half of the season I think he will feel he needs something else

we lose a couple more key players and we are in the shit.... would like a RW
 
My dream January is signing Alex Sandro for LB and locking in Ozil for a free this summer. Sandro would give us a proper LB to play the majority of games and let Shaw continue to progress like he has his last few displays. It would also let us give Young a run out at RW to see if he can make that position his own. He has earned the chance, in my opinion, after his displays at LB this year. Then it will let us know what we will really need this summer.
 
Good post.

I largely agree with your exit list, but with a few amendments

Smalling - keep until the summer due to injury/ settling issues at the club. In an ideal world I would sell him now due to his limited technical ability

Jones - deserves a 12 more months to prove he can be largely injury free. He's a strong defender when he's had a few games of form.

Herrera - I've lost patience with him. Great last season, but very inconsistant and at his peak. Should get around 30m fit him

Sam Johnstone- good keeper, but never going to be world class. Sell for 5 - 10m

Romero - amazing keeper that wants away due to it being a world cup year. Could be 20 - 35m if we want to take a minor risk of having henderson/ perrerira as 2nd choice
Agree with that mostly. One of Smalling/Jones should go to make space for a proper reliable center back who we can put next to Bailly (if he stays fit..) and build a partnership, and the other with Lindelof to be cover, with tuanzebe as the rotating option there too. Don't think any of the current ones bar Bailly are ever going to be more then filling in when fit cause of other injuries.

On Herrera, I think if we use him as a Matic back up, he's perfect. We don't want to just have matic as a DM, and Herreras best role that hes performed consistently is that one. Also why hes struggled this year. Hes not a creative midfielder. Hes a defensive ball winning mid.

Don't really care what we do with the GK situation beyond de gea. Doesn't change anything.
 
why are so many of you wanting to sell smalling and or jones??

Bailly is also very injury prone and since rojo has come back into our defensive unit we have looked very shaky and erratic.lindelof will come good I'm sure of that.

Getting rid of our most experienced defenders is not an option unless we have ready made replacements.
 
why are so many of you wanting to sell smalling and or jones??

Bailly is also very injury prone and since rojo has come back into our defensive unit we have looked very shaky and erratic.lindelof will come good I'm sure of that.

Getting rid of our most experienced defenders is not an option unless we have ready made replacements.

I'm not in an immediate rush to sell either due to the depth issues you mention. Longer term (6-12months) is the timeframe im lookikg at.

I rate Jones, but his injury record is not acceptable. I'd say give him 12 months to prove his physical robustness

Smalling has performed well this season, but his technical ability is low and he has a tendency to push/ pull. As he relies on his athleticism and the potential arrival in VAR, he could transform from being a good prem defender to a liability. I'd sell in the summer, unless we can replace now (unlikely)
 
We won't be signing anyone IMO. It could be that Jose's comments recently were in light of being told this by the board. Which wouldn't bode well of course.
 
We won't be signing anyone IMO. It could be that Jose's comments recently were in light of being told this by the board. Which wouldn't bode well of course.
Apparently the Times has recently written that the United board don't expect to make any signings in January.
 
Okey.. I might be crazy but... Jack Wilshere? Feisty, tough midfielder with an eye for a pass. Certainly a good CM option for United when Pogba or Matic needs to rest. Herrera is having a poor season, Fellaini might leave, Carrick is finished. Thoughts?

He's not called Jack Wheelchair without good reason ...........
 
There is no way we won't buy at least one player in the January transfer window in my opinion, even though the league is out of sight.
 
There is no way we won't buy at least one player in the January transfer window in my opinion, even though the league is out of sight.

I hope you're right, the league being out of sight is irrelevant as we have to worry about top 4, the pack are on us and we have the least momentum and morale of the 5 behind City right now, plus this is a World Cup summer, we don't want to have to do all our business then IMO.
 
I reckon our #1 priority should be a better version of Ander Herrera (who?) and a right winger. A proper winger.
 
We're second, so I expect us not to sign anyone. Our board are happy as long as we're in the CL positions.
We won’t go far without at least one creative option. It’s something we really lack and won’t get anywhere against the stronger teams.
 
In my opinion it is absolutely critical to get a right winger. I also believe that Alex Sandro would do wonders for us but if we can't get him then i'd rather give Shaw another chance and think about it again in the summer.
 
Good post.

I largely agree with your exit list, but with a few amendments

Smalling - keep until the summer due to injury/ settling issues at the club. In an ideal world I would sell him now due to his limited technical ability

Jones - deserves a 12 more months to prove he can be largely injury free. He's a strong defender when he's had a few games of form.

Herrera - I've lost patience with him. Great last season, but very inconsistant and at his peak. Should get around 30m fit him

Sam Johnstone- good keeper, but never going to be world class. Sell for 5 - 10m

Romero - amazing keeper that wants away due to it being a world cup year. Could be 20 - 35m if we want to take a minor risk of having henderson/ perrerira as 2nd choice
Hes been mainly injured in the last 6 years hes been here. He isnt going to suddenly stop being injury prone. I agree with the rest
 
We're second, so I expect us not to sign anyone. Our board are happy as long as we're in the CL positions.
Another couple of bad results and that will be under threat. Even our goal difference is being caught up
 
We need a CM because when Pogba's out it looks a mess. I don't want wholesale changes though.
 
I have no idea but it's rare we actually sign the players that people hope we'll go for, in fact it's quite the opposite.
 
if we could sign one player it would have to be a tricky player on the right to add some balance and diversity

Mahrez is proven and would improve us immediately

Malcom sounds like a bit of a gamble but maybe he's the one

hope we sign someone to give us a lift
 
We're not signing anyone. Why do you think Mourinho has been so pissy lately about City and their money? Whether or not you agree, to me at least, it's a clear sign the board doesn't want to spend money.
 
Zlatan needs to be let go. Honestly, I thank him for last season but he's been a roadblock in Lukaku's development. As a matter of that his form has suffered even more because of Zlatan.

Players whom I think need to be shipped out
Zlatan - 200k
Mhiktaryan - 140k
Fellaini - 120k
Smalling - 80k
Darmian - 80k
Blind - 80k
Herrera - 110k

That's pretty much the wage budget of the entire Spurs team.

We need to get a striker that offers something different in terms of attributes to Lukaku. Dybala could be brought in to play a number of positions. RW, AM, ST. Dybala for Mhikitaryan and 75m would be a good deal.

Jorginho's name has been thrown around as a replacement for Carrick and he could be brought in for 40m.

Goretzka is free and is just a no brainer. The guy is a terrific box to box midfielder.

We need a LB but I don't see us getting Sandro and Dybala from Juve. But this position needs to be filled. I'm tired of seeing Young, Shaw, Blind and Darmian play there.

Ozil for free again is a no brainer to me. The guy is PL proven and would improve our squad immensely.
 
We're not signing anyone. Why do you think Mourinho has been so pissy lately about City and their money? Whether or not you agree, to me at least, it's a clear sign the board doesn't want to spend money.

I wonder if they want another season back in the Europa League.
 
I wonder if they want another season back in the Europa League.
Perhaps dropped points against Southampton and everton will change their mind. If not and no players come in, maybe mourinho will be booted out or walk out at the end of the season
 
I wonder if they want another season back in the Europa League.

Easier to replace a coach in the last year of his contract and put the blame on him than spend 100M in January to not win a title. Sadly I'm turning really really negative to our squad atm. Not any particular player or anything but I guess jealously lol
 
Zlatan needs to be let go. Honestly, I thank him for last season but he's been a roadblock in Lukaku's development. As a matter of that his form has suffered even more because of Zlatan.

Players whom I think need to be shipped out
Zlatan - 200k
Mhiktaryan - 140k
Fellaini - 120k
Smalling - 80k
Darmian - 80k
Blind - 80k
Herrera - 110k

That's pretty much the wage budget of the entire Spurs team.

We need to get a striker that offers something different in terms of attributes to Lukaku. Dybala could be brought in to play a number of positions. RW, AM, ST. Dybala for Mhikitaryan and 75m would be a good deal.

Jorginho's name has been thrown around as a replacement for Carrick and he could be brought in for 40m.

Goretzka is free and is just a no brainer. The guy is a terrific box to box midfielder.

We need a LB but I don't see us getting Sandro and Dybala from Juve. But this position needs to be filled. I'm tired of seeing Young, Shaw, Blind and Darmian play there.

Ozil for free again is a no brainer to me. The guy is PL proven and would improve our squad immensely.
Jorginho for 40 mill in this market will never happen.
 
We won't be signing anyone IMO. It could be that Jose's comments recently were in light of being told this by the board. Which wouldn't bode well of course.

Agreed.
Basically Jose is as frustrated as we, the fans, are.
We are going to have to make do with the players we have, for the remainder of the season.
 
Interview with Jose posted on the official site says he does not expect any buys in Jan, and 2/3 in Summer 2018 with 1 to replace Carrick.



http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...gn=ManUtd&utm_medium=post&utm_source=facebook

Pretty bleak stuff, basically saying we are going to have to slowly limp along after City for a while yet as we need to buy in dribs and drabs, seems like he'd want to replace Carrick and add depth in midfield but we can only do one, just as we can only make one big money attacker buy and seem limited to only 2 or 3 in so we are going to continue to lack for quality depth bar in defense.

If he only sees 3 out I guess that means we'll be keeping Mata, Young and Herrera as I think the 3 out will be Blind, Darmian and Fellaini as it sounds like he already considers Carrick as done and I think Mkhi will go this month.
 
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We really do need someone else in the attacking areas, so badly. There has to be something we can do.
 
while it is quite disheartening to hear that we cant financially compete with the likes of city despite having the biggest turnover in football, however i appreciate his honesty and openness which i hope will also translate to our players and spur them on knowing theyre essentially underdogs. Hopefully it gives them the determination to show football that you can win without having an unlimited budget.
 
while it is quite disheartening to hear that we cant financially compete with the likes of city despite having the biggest turnover in football, however i appreciate his honesty and openness which i hope will also translate to our players and spur them on knowing theyre essentially underdogs. Hopefully it gives them the determination to show football that you can win without having an unlimited budget.

I think the scouts we have now, especially the Athletico Madrid and Juve chaps will help us balance that.
 
Mkhitaryan in a straight swap for Joao Mario. If Darmian goes, I would like to see another swap deal done with him.
 
Mkhitaryan in a straight swap for Joao Mario. If Darmian goes, I would like to see another swap deal done with him.

ManUtd fans think Mkhitaryan is shit, Inter fans think Joao Mario is shit.