I fail to see what is wrong with this.. People are getting sick and tired of reading about the Glazer´s treatment of our club. But I for one think that with time and more terrible season´s the Glazer´s will have to make a decision, to sell or invest heavily in the squad to make us competitive again! Either way we fan´s will have to bite time on this matter.
Manchester United fans plan anti-Glazer protest if club fails to make world-class signings
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This is about people not being happy about us signing big names. By all means be pissed off at the Glazers, I am too but I am pissed about their ownership, not them not giving the club funds for the transfer market.
The main part of the damage is done from their ownership, the club operates pretty much as normal now that it's down to a managable level.
Is there something wrong with that? At least, I give them credit for standing up and successfully getting rid of genuine parasites.
Those leeches are completely clueless about the reality of owning a sports team. Have you read a little about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers? It's a real nightmare over there. Even if our owner was another American, there are many people like the Steinbrenners, Paul Allen (him being a co-founder of Microsoft, I'm fan of his work as a sports owner) or Mark Cuban, all of them being appreciated because they listen to the fans' demands and expectations.
When was the last time we made a genuine world-class signing anyway? We signed Mata and RVP under extenuating circumstances with Mata being on the sidelines at Chelsea and RVP wanting to leave with one year left on his contract. I don't care if we don't buy a big-name like Vidal, Di Maria or Hummels. I want there to be sufficient investment to ensure the quality of our first team is at least on par with our fellow top-four competitors and the depth of the squad is adequate enough. There should at least be adequate specialist cover for our full backs Rafael/Shaw while not trying to play two 29 year old has been wingers as wing backs when they clearly won't cut it defensively. There should be more than 3 injury prone senior centre-backs in the squad with at least one brought in for cover and one commanding experienced centre back to strengthen our defense and guide Smalling/Jones on/off the pitch whilst taking the pressure away from them on the field. We should at least bring in one quality central midfielder to partner Herrera with Fletcher/Cleverley/Fellaini being nothing more than adequate cover. Carrick is a quality player but he is 32 years old who has had a terrible season and is returning from a long term injury so it would be foolish to expect him to regain his previous form, without acknowledging the possibility that we may never see him at the top of his game again.
It is fairly obvious that the team needs to be strengthened on several fronts but I'd rather the protest be based on our lack of signings rather than lack of world-class ones. The last thing we need is for Ed to go into over-drive and overpay for the wrong 'world-class stars'. Doubt it would happen under LVG like how we overpaid for Fellaini on the deadline day but desperation must be setting in for Ed. Moreover, it would be better if the protests were based on how Glazers saddled the club with debt or the way they took income from the club to service the debts etc. It really feels muppetish to stage a protest at the owners for lack of signings when we have been spending serious money recently. I really feel it is Ed who should be getting the most of the blame here. We have been spending money but we have been overpaying or being tentative when it comes to transfers. That is Ed's fault and not the owners' fault really.
It is fairly obvious that the team needs to be strengthened on several fronts but I'd rather the protest be based on our lack of signings rather than lack of world-class ones. The last thing we need is for Ed to go into over-drive and overpay for the wrong 'world-class stars'. Doubt it would happen under LVG like how we overpaid for Fellaini on the deadline day but desperation must be setting in for Ed. Moreover, it would be better if the protests were based on how Glazers saddled the club with debt or the way they took income from the club to service the debts etc. It really feels muppetish to stage a protest at the owners for lack of signings when we have been spending serious money recently. I really feel it is Ed who should be getting the most of the blame here. We have been spending money but we have been overpaying or being tentative when it comes to transfers. That is Ed's fault and not the owners' fault really.
If they are getting sick and tired of reading about the Glazers then it's time to close the newspaper websites and concentrate on being a fan again. Watch and support the team.
Good post, that really was an odd comment. Surely it was one of those situations where fighting for what they believed in was actually a good thing. Not some pseudo-intellectual 'we want signings n stuff!' bullshit.
The thing about United is that there is the opportunity to invest heavily in the team every transfer window and still make a substantial profit for the owners but greed sees them syphoning off much more than what is fair. The new FFP rules should be making it even easier for us to sign up the best talent in the world but instead we're having trouble closing a deal for Rojo. The lack of CL arguement doesn't hold up when you consider who City bought in a similar situation.
If we're going to whore the name of Manchester United to every crisp maker, car manufacturer and vinyard in the world then for f*ck's sake we would want to see the benefits on the pitch.
If we're going to whore the name of Manchester United to every crisp maker, car manufacturer and vinyard in the world then for f*ck's sake we would want to see the benefits on the pitch.
Stop buying shirts, stop buying tickets. It's the only thing that will work.
The green and gold campaign was horrendous
The green and gold campaign was horrendous
Would fans be delighted if we ended up spending €300m in this transfer window and ended up 5th? Because with the quality and adequacy of our signings in the last 12 months I'd rather not spend too much.
Spot on.
Hitting them in their pockets is what matters, not waving a few scarves in the air.
They used to wave their scarves whilst sporting the latest kit and merchandise.
What a laughing stock some of them were
Until we sign some 'worldies', obviously.
Agreed! Like I said these things will take care of itself. I don´t care if we only use youth players this season and don´t sign anyone. But that said if Woody had kept his big mouth shut and said LVG would be using our youth and no more signings were on their way things might be a bit different. People have been watching spaces all summer!
We spent 140 million in 12 months ffs. We also paid 18 million and 120k a week for Ashley Young. 17 million for Kagawa. Among the protesting fans you'll have people who wanked themselves silly when Mata was signed, but following Saturday's defeat argue that he was the wrong signing and want him replaced in a Football Manager special. Now it's Di Maria here, Hummels there and Vidal in between. I'll be honest with you, I don't recognize the Manchester United Football Club behind the alleged "world class signinigs" anymore. It's nothing more than a collection of mercenaries, epitomized by its new "proud" captain. It's depressing how the club is losing its identity, and at the request of its own fans.
Jones/Evans/Smalling never got a run in CBs when Vidic and Ferdinand were here. Now there's a chance for that and after one game you hear cries for new CBs. CM has been as issue for almost a fecking decade, so why hit the streets right now? Reinforements are needed, but at the same time we need a good measure of patience. Unfortunately that has gone with the departure of SAF.
Well most have done that bought their tickets and tried to support that team that played under Moyes last season and with that in mind gotten really excited when LVG was hired. And with Woody saying we could match anyone when it came to transfer fees the bar was raised a bit.. But like I said I wouldn´t give a damn if we didn´t sign another player and use our youth this season, but our main man has to know to stop blabbering shit like that if he doesn´t want to back it up..
The last 5 windows we've had a greater net spend than Chelsea or City! The problem (in this case at least) is not the Glazers but our fecking scouting system, previous managers and CEO - we can't identify talent that is ready to step up (see paying 20m for ashley young, obertan, buttner, etc while missing out on cheap bargains like cabaye, cabella, debuchy, strootman 2 years ago, etc) and our inability to sell a pack of crisps (see anderson, giving an unwanted nani a bumper contract that prevents movement, valencia getting the same 2 years ago while in poor form).
We need a freaking director of football and he can't be a glazer pencil pusher - City wisely brought in the ex-staff from Barca 3 years ago and they habe been buying excellent ever since. WE need to hire someone from another club (poach them i necessar) who has contacts and send Woowdward back to closing deals with Kellogs and Goodyear tires.
We need a freaking director of football and he can't be a glazer pencil pusher - City wisely brought in the ex-staff from Barca 3 years ago and they habe been buying excellent ever since. WE need to hire someone from another club (poach them i necessar) who has contacts and send Woowdward back to closing deals with Kellogs and Goodyear tires.
The Glazers put us under huge financial burdens for years. That's basically over now, and they've shown a huge willingness to spend in the last year or two. It makes little sense right now.
Although, the whole 5 years of net spending is a little misleading too. We've had 6/7 years of players on 1 year rolling contracts leave/retire, we've had Pogba leave on a free.
In those years of under investment from the Glazers, we would pay a premium on squad players to guarantee the depth that Fergie saw as so vital, but who could never live up to those price tags and would subsequently end up being sold at a loss (Young and Fellaini will come into this category) . And we would spend over the top on young players with potential, which hasn't really worked out so well for us so far and Nani and Anderson look set to make a big loss for us too.
Plus Berbatov.
Although, the whole 5 years of net spending is a little misleading too. We've had 6/7 years of players on 1 year rolling contracts leave/retire, we've had Pogba leave on a free.
In those years of under investment from the Glazers, we would pay a premium on squad players to guarantee the depth that Fergie saw as so vital, but who could never live up to those price tags and would subsequently end up being sold at a loss (Young and Fellaini will come into this category) . And we would spend over the top on young players with potential, which hasn't really worked out so well for us so far and Nani and Anderson look set to make a big loss for us too.
Plus Berbatov.
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Shouldn't be a protest against Glazers, should be a protest against Ed Woodward, it's becoming more and more apparent that he's the one dithering.
What a joke.
"If I dont get a big signing I'm going to throw my dummy out".
Either the Glazers are good owners, in which case don't protest, or they aren't good owners, in which case by all means protest, but you have to protest when things are going well as well.
"If I dont get a big signing I'm going to throw my dummy out".
Either the Glazers are good owners, in which case don't protest, or they aren't good owners, in which case by all means protest, but you have to protest when things are going well as well.
Only PSG have a higher net spend than us in the last few years.
The problem isn't the lack of signings and money spent, it's that our signings in the last few years, under Fergie included, have mostly been fecking shite.
When's the last time we actually bought a player with resale value, a player like Real, Barca, Chelsea etc. can offload for big bucks every year to make room for funds? Ronaldo?
The problem isn't the lack of signings and money spent, it's that our signings in the last few years, under Fergie included, have mostly been fecking shite.
When's the last time we actually bought a player with resale value, a player like Real, Barca, Chelsea etc. can offload for big bucks every year to make room for funds? Ronaldo?
Make it anti-Woodward instead.
We will not get big name signings, why would they come to us at this moment in time. What we need are the right signing to get us back in the Top 4. The problem is LvG might have named players we cannot get because we are out of Europe and Ed doesn't have the experience, contacts or nous to be able to suggest other names to him. LvG may have seriously underestimated our pulling power with players.
Sigh.
I keep out of the caf over the summer months because it tends to descend into a holocaust with people tweeting quotes from accounts such as 'agentsuckmydick24/7' that Vidal is signing for Munich, Vidal is signing for Utd, Di Maria signing for PSG, just to be followed by hysteria, deep analysis of any quotes and the obligatory mention of smokescreens and a plethora of sad old jokes that were tired after about mid July about preparing bids, monitoring situations, where's Woody, Woody is shit etc, etc. as if the source is a credible outlet and not some piece of shit kid in a bedroom or 40yr old virgin pounding his keyboard wanting attention like Cartoon guy in the Simpsons.
Someone posted a tweet from someone called SaturnVI yesterday for fecks sake, and that was analysed and discussed.
So, we're all going to protest against the owners because of.......transfers.
We have just bought Herrera, Shaw and Rojo ( according to the player, unconfirmed as yet ), which have followed on from Mata, Fellaini ( I know, I know ), that's £120m in 12 months ( excluding Rojo ). That hardly being inactive in the transfer market, with 2 weeks still left of this window still to go.
Yes, we've lost lots of players due to retirement etc and rebuilding needs to take place and is/will be done.
But what I don't understand is this, why this year in particular are you letting the press get to you so much?
The very same journalists who where advocating Moyes to stay for as long as possible even though we were losing every single game at one point, the same journalists that were spoon fed information about transfers/targets/how shit a team Fergie left, the same journalists who are still banging his drum now with interviews, crying over the fact he was given 'time' to succeed are suddenly stirring the pot with link after link of shitty articles about Utds (failed ) transfers, most with no quotes or any kind of information whatsoever about what we are actually doing.
Classic example from last night
Duncan Castles: The reason Utd can't complete simple transfers is .....Edward Woodward!!! OMG OMG .......
meanwhile
Marcus Rojo is giving an interview about becoming a Utd player and its a dream come true.
The Ander Herrera transfer gave us an insight into their knowledge of Utd's business when every single journalist said the stories were false, we weren't interested. 2 days later he was signed.
When will people accept that this year, the press know feck all about Utd and our transfers. They don't like it and are making their own stories up to fill space and justify their existance.
LVG has said repeatedly he wanted to assess the squad and give everyone a chance. But I read now that LVG is lying just to buy Woodwood some time. And people are believing it. I don't know why, LVG isn't known for being shy about telling people the way it is.
Yes, we all want Vidal, Di Maria and Benatia, if we got these three I think we would be set for a great season and would not need to buy anyone else. Is it likely, well no it isn't. But we can all dream.
But to tap into the anti Glazer sentiment which will always be there, no matter what, bearing in mind we have just signed the biggest sponsorship deal in football only a few weeks ago, is just impossible for me to fathom one game into a new season, with a new manager, trying to play a new system.
People will never, ever like who owns Manchester United. Thats just the way it is, and always will be. The romantics wants fan ownership, which is unlikely to ever happen unfortunately, and there will always be issues with whoever owns us taking money out of the club, even if it is by them having the audacity to sell their own shares ( will someone think of the children ), like the outcry a few weeks ago. Unless we are bought by an oil rich arab, but then people will be unhappy because we will turn into City/Chelsea/PSG and just buy everything in sight.
Or we could be bought by the likes of the people at Portsmouth, Leeds, Newcastle, Blackburn, or maybe Gillette and Hicks who drove Liverpool to the brink of liquidation, then maybe we would really have something to complain about, watching your club get stripped from inside out, relegation followed by liquidation.
Don't get me wrong the leveraged buyout was a disgrace, should never have happened, but it has. The money going out of the club is wrong and I don't like it. But, they've turned us into a commercial juggernaught which, whether you like it or not is the only way we can compete with City/Chelsea financial power. People say the Glazers are killing the club, they're parasites, we would be better off without them, and justify this by saying the club can sustain itself quite comfortably without the Glazers or any rich owners and point to massive sponsorship deals, shirt sales, tv money etc and still break transfer records. Well yes it can now, but that is because of what the Glazers have done with our commercial dept. You can't have it both ways.
We can't be protesting about the way the club is run, because it runs well. Its a very, very, successful business, fans don't like hear being described as that but thats the way it is now.
Duncan Drasdo will be out later today with a statement I'm sure, advocating full scale war against the owners, because he loves things like this, even though most people cringe when he is interviewed on Skysports.
Talking of cringing, Ed Woodward, who I seem to be defending quite a bit, needs to stop giving interviews where he says we can buy anyone we want. It helps no one and increases the pressure on himself and the club , plus it makes himself look like a prick.
Sorry about the long rant and wall of text.
Twitter is the worst thing to have happened to football by the way.
I keep out of the caf over the summer months because it tends to descend into a holocaust with people tweeting quotes from accounts such as 'agentsuckmydick24/7' that Vidal is signing for Munich, Vidal is signing for Utd, Di Maria signing for PSG, just to be followed by hysteria, deep analysis of any quotes and the obligatory mention of smokescreens and a plethora of sad old jokes that were tired after about mid July about preparing bids, monitoring situations, where's Woody, Woody is shit etc, etc. as if the source is a credible outlet and not some piece of shit kid in a bedroom or 40yr old virgin pounding his keyboard wanting attention like Cartoon guy in the Simpsons.
Someone posted a tweet from someone called SaturnVI yesterday for fecks sake, and that was analysed and discussed.
So, we're all going to protest against the owners because of.......transfers.
We have just bought Herrera, Shaw and Rojo ( according to the player, unconfirmed as yet ), which have followed on from Mata, Fellaini ( I know, I know ), that's £120m in 12 months ( excluding Rojo ). That hardly being inactive in the transfer market, with 2 weeks still left of this window still to go.
Yes, we've lost lots of players due to retirement etc and rebuilding needs to take place and is/will be done.
But what I don't understand is this, why this year in particular are you letting the press get to you so much?
The very same journalists who where advocating Moyes to stay for as long as possible even though we were losing every single game at one point, the same journalists that were spoon fed information about transfers/targets/how shit a team Fergie left, the same journalists who are still banging his drum now with interviews, crying over the fact he was given 'time' to succeed are suddenly stirring the pot with link after link of shitty articles about Utds (failed ) transfers, most with no quotes or any kind of information whatsoever about what we are actually doing.
Classic example from last night
Duncan Castles: The reason Utd can't complete simple transfers is .....Edward Woodward!!! OMG OMG .......
meanwhile
Marcus Rojo is giving an interview about becoming a Utd player and its a dream come true.
The Ander Herrera transfer gave us an insight into their knowledge of Utd's business when every single journalist said the stories were false, we weren't interested. 2 days later he was signed.
When will people accept that this year, the press know feck all about Utd and our transfers. They don't like it and are making their own stories up to fill space and justify their existance.
LVG has said repeatedly he wanted to assess the squad and give everyone a chance. But I read now that LVG is lying just to buy Woodwood some time. And people are believing it. I don't know why, LVG isn't known for being shy about telling people the way it is.
Yes, we all want Vidal, Di Maria and Benatia, if we got these three I think we would be set for a great season and would not need to buy anyone else. Is it likely, well no it isn't. But we can all dream.
But to tap into the anti Glazer sentiment which will always be there, no matter what, bearing in mind we have just signed the biggest sponsorship deal in football only a few weeks ago, is just impossible for me to fathom one game into a new season, with a new manager, trying to play a new system.
People will never, ever like who owns Manchester United. Thats just the way it is, and always will be. The romantics wants fan ownership, which is unlikely to ever happen unfortunately, and there will always be issues with whoever owns us taking money out of the club, even if it is by them having the audacity to sell their own shares ( will someone think of the children ), like the outcry a few weeks ago. Unless we are bought by an oil rich arab, but then people will be unhappy because we will turn into City/Chelsea/PSG and just buy everything in sight.
Or we could be bought by the likes of the people at Portsmouth, Leeds, Newcastle, Blackburn, or maybe Gillette and Hicks who drove Liverpool to the brink of liquidation, then maybe we would really have something to complain about, watching your club get stripped from inside out, relegation followed by liquidation.
Don't get me wrong the leveraged buyout was a disgrace, should never have happened, but it has. The money going out of the club is wrong and I don't like it. But, they've turned us into a commercial juggernaught which, whether you like it or not is the only way we can compete with City/Chelsea financial power. People say the Glazers are killing the club, they're parasites, we would be better off without them, and justify this by saying the club can sustain itself quite comfortably without the Glazers or any rich owners and point to massive sponsorship deals, shirt sales, tv money etc and still break transfer records. Well yes it can now, but that is because of what the Glazers have done with our commercial dept. You can't have it both ways.
We can't be protesting about the way the club is run, because it runs well. Its a very, very, successful business, fans don't like hear being described as that but thats the way it is now.
Duncan Drasdo will be out later today with a statement I'm sure, advocating full scale war against the owners, because he loves things like this, even though most people cringe when he is interviewed on Skysports.
Talking of cringing, Ed Woodward, who I seem to be defending quite a bit, needs to stop giving interviews where he says we can buy anyone we want. It helps no one and increases the pressure on himself and the club , plus it makes himself look like a prick.
Sorry about the long rant and wall of text.
Twitter is the worst thing to have happened to football by the way.
I hope they have a good protest prepared for not winning every game 4-0.
This is amazingly and incredibly terrible. When are fans happy? When will they be truly satisfied? When we won trophies, you say we did not have the best squad of the league, and had the worst midfield. When we did not win, you say we are on a decline. When we don't sign big names, you protest! Try to be a spur fan for a day, a south hampton fan for a day, and for that matter, try to put yourselves in the shoes of a Liverpool fan for the last 2 decades...
More importantly, you think signing big names would solve all the problems and we will be reigning again! How stupid is that? The message to the players and manager would be all negative if this really happens. Terrible!
What a disgrace!
More importantly, you think signing big names would solve all the problems and we will be reigning again! How stupid is that? The message to the players and manager would be all negative if this really happens. Terrible!
What a disgrace!
I have a suspicion that they were never happy with the Glazers, but tried to keep a lid on it out of loyalty of SAF. Now he is no longer the manager they will use any reason, team results being blamed on transfer or lack of to protest. Don't think it will any effect either.
Nothing negative in that at all. I'm quite shocked it took so long after the last season. Any other top club performing like we did last year and the fnas would go viral.
Add to that our complete incompetence in the transfer market and this is the logical solution.
Add to that our complete incompetence in the transfer market and this is the logical solution.
There is a lot of legitimate reasons to loathe the Glazers as owners. But, if you protest simply because the are not signing the big names you want makes you come off as a spoiled.
@mckenzie79 You raise some good points. This particularly:
Have people considered whether their long-term goal(s) with these protests are even remotely achievable? You want the Glazer family out, but who's going to take over from there?
Have people considered whether their long-term goal(s) with these protests are even remotely achievable? You want the Glazer family out, but who's going to take over from there?
Is it really that simple? Would people really stage a protest just because there are no muppet signings? I think it would have more to do with the lack of direction the club has and that it's not competitive enough. Of course, the Glazers didn't choose to sign Zaha for 15m and Fellaini for 27.5m, or Mata for 35m. But there's been constant talk of a war chest since Fergie retired and we've not signed any major players (bar Mata) and lost quite a lot of experience.
How much money has gone out of the club to service debt and interest payments?
Whether we like it or not, being competitive means matching Chelsea and City in terms of quality. Missing out on the CL for the 2nd season running would really decimate the club. Now is the time to acquire some match winners. So it's not about having a crank because we don't all get what we want, it's about the most financially profitable club (outside of the Glazer debt) not being able to properly compete with the 2 front runners.
If we were really in for Bale and Ronaldo like Moyes said, that's 150-200m right there. The problem also is, though we've spent OK in the last few windows, leading up to those we've been tight and lost big characters along the way, with various other problems (players not progressing as expected, players regressing etc.)
I'd rather a protest against the Glazers not be diluted to such an extent that it blurs what legitimate grievances people have against them - it's a culmination of their ownership that will have led us to this point. And the great thing about a potential protest: no untouchable will defend them and quell dissent
How much money has gone out of the club to service debt and interest payments?
Whether we like it or not, being competitive means matching Chelsea and City in terms of quality. Missing out on the CL for the 2nd season running would really decimate the club. Now is the time to acquire some match winners. So it's not about having a crank because we don't all get what we want, it's about the most financially profitable club (outside of the Glazer debt) not being able to properly compete with the 2 front runners.
If we were really in for Bale and Ronaldo like Moyes said, that's 150-200m right there. The problem also is, though we've spent OK in the last few windows, leading up to those we've been tight and lost big characters along the way, with various other problems (players not progressing as expected, players regressing etc.)
I'd rather a protest against the Glazers not be diluted to such an extent that it blurs what legitimate grievances people have against them - it's a culmination of their ownership that will have led us to this point. And the great thing about a potential protest: no untouchable will defend them and quell dissent
Someone else! Someone else!
erm... whoever they sell it to?
Presumably some middle eastern oil fund or similar who will use it as a tool to promote their country around the world - you know like psg or city?
With our commercial revenues and an owner who was prepared to let us spend up to the limit allowed by FFP I think I'd be happy to give them a shot at it.
Fact of the matter still remains that for the last 2 to 3 windows we have been absolutely retarded in the market. Biding our time? Prepping our bids? Make a move and get the fecking players that we so desperately need. Same old shite every year, mention world class players to sell season tickets then invest feck all in the right areas and repeat.
Hear hear, if you cant beat them, join them.
There has been just too much sentimentality attached to this Club. Turning a blind eye to SAF's dubious purchases, Charlton setting his face against Jose, 'the United way', the romantic notion that Moyes was another SAF and could step into his shoes.
We need a hard headed DOF, someone who KNOWS something about football to work alongside Van Gaal.
Nonsense!
Logical solution is to keep supporting (go to games and be the 12th man!!!) unless it is a Moyes. lol Since we have Moyes no more, it is important to stand behind the new manager and the players who have been there, done that. They need their confidence back.
You know Spainish fans would be booing their players, protesting against their clubs etc. Man United is not such club with fans like them.
What stupid timing for this.
Sigh.
I keep out of the caf over the summer months because it tends to descend into a holocaust with people tweeting quotes from accounts such as 'agentsuckmydick24/7' that Vidal is signing for Munich, Vidal is signing for Utd, Di Maria signing for PSG, just to be followed by hysteria, deep analysis of any quotes and the obligatory mention of smokescreens and a plethora of sad old jokes that were tired after about mid July about preparing bids, monitoring situations, where's Woody, Woody is shit etc, etc. as if the source is a credible outlet and not some piece of shit kid in a bedroom or 40yr old virgin pounding his keyboard wanting attention like Cartoon guy in the Simpsons.
Someone posted a tweet from someone called SaturnVI yesterday for fecks sake, and that was analysed and discussed.
So, we're all going to protest against the owners because of.......transfers.
We have just bought Herrera, Shaw and Rojo ( according to the player, unconfirmed as yet ), which have followed on from Mata, Fellaini ( I know, I know ), that's £120m in 12 months ( excluding Rojo ). That hardly being inactive in the transfer market, with 2 weeks still left of this window still to go.
Yes, we've lost lots of players due to retirement etc and rebuilding needs to take place and is/will be done.
But what I don't understand is this, why this year in particular are you letting the press get to you so much?
The very same journalists who where advocating Moyes to stay for as long as possible even though we were losing every single game at one point, the same journalists that were spoon fed information about transfers/targets/how shit a team Fergie left, the same journalists who are still banging his drum now with interviews, crying over the fact he was given 'time' to succeed are suddenly stirring the pot with link after link of shitty articles about Utds (failed ) transfers, most with no quotes or any kind of information whatsoever about what we are actually doing.
Classic example from last night
Duncan Castles: The reason Utd can't complete simple transfers is .....Edward Woodward!!! OMG OMG .......
meanwhile
Marcus Rojo is giving an interview about becoming a Utd player and its a dream come true.
The Ander Herrera transfer gave us an insight into their knowledge of Utd's business when every single journalist said the stories were false, we weren't interested. 2 days later he was signed.
When will people accept that this year, the press know feck all about Utd and our transfers. They don't like it and are making their own stories up to fill space and justify their existance.
LVG has said repeatedly he wanted to assess the squad and give everyone a chance. But I read now that LVG is lying just to buy Woodwood some time. And people are believing it. I don't know why, LVG isn't known for being shy about telling people the way it is.
Yes, we all want Vidal, Di Maria and Benatia, if we got these three I think we would be set for a great season and would not need to buy anyone else. Is it likely, well no it isn't. But we can all dream.
But to tap into the anti Glazer sentiment which will always be there, no matter what, bearing in mind we have just signed the biggest sponsorship deal in football only a few weeks ago, is just impossible for me to fathom one game into a new season, with a new manager, trying to play a new system.
People will never, ever like who owns Manchester United. Thats just the way it is, and always will be. The romantics wants fan ownership, which is unlikely to ever happen unfortunately, and there will always be issues with whoever owns us taking money out of the club, even if it is by them having the audacity to sell their own shares ( will someone think of the children ), like the outcry a few weeks ago. Unless we are bought by an oil rich arab, but then people will be unhappy because we will turn into City/Chelsea/PSG and just buy everything in sight.
Or we could be bought by the likes of the people at Portsmouth, Leeds, Newcastle, Blackburn, or maybe Gillette and Hicks who drove Liverpool to the brink of liquidation, then maybe we would really have something to complain about, watching your club get stripped from inside out, relegation followed by liquidation.
Don't get me wrong the leveraged buyout was a disgrace, should never have happened, but it has. The money going out of the club is wrong and I don't like it. But, they've turned us into a commercial juggernaught which, whether you like it or not is the only way we can compete with City/Chelsea financial power. People say the Glazers are killing the club, they're parasites, we would be better off without them, and justify this by saying the club can sustain itself quite comfortably without the Glazers or any rich owners and point to massive sponsorship deals, shirt sales, tv money etc and still break transfer records. Well yes it can now, but that is because of what the Glazers have done with our commercial dept. You can't have it both ways.
We can't be protesting about the way the club is run, because it runs well. Its a very, very, successful business, fans don't like hear being described as that but thats the way it is now.
Duncan Drasdo will be out later today with a statement I'm sure, advocating full scale war against the owners, because he loves things like this, even though most people cringe when he is interviewed on Skysports.
Talking of cringing, Ed Woodward, who I seem to be defending quite a bit, needs to stop giving interviews where he says we can buy anyone we want. It helps no one and increases the pressure on himself and the club , plus it makes himself look like a prick.
Sorry about the long rant and wall of text.
Twitter is the worst thing to have happened to football by the way.
Spot on! What an outstanding post. I think the only thing to add is that we still don't know who United are really after. LVG said he needed time to assess the current squad and that he won't name players as their prices go up, so we can't really blame Woodward either can we? If it turns out United bid for Di Maria, Vidal etc then maybe we can all kick off about it, but until then it's all just paper stories and internet click-bait by glory hunters who value "likes" "retweets" and "followers" more than anything else.
It's all just pixels and lights, I for one cannot fathom how people care so much about how many the pixels light up to say is following them on twatter and facewank. I bet they know less than 1% of them anyway (especially on twatter) it's all about feeding ego's and it's pathetic.
I'm not happy with it all at the moment, but we have just come through ONE bad year in over 20. Yes we failed to win anything before, but always attained a Champions League spot. Jeez I wonder how many fans would have dealt with the years of NOT HAVING CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FOOTBALL BECAUSE WE WERE BANNED? The facts are still the same. The Glazers were never as bad as first thought, but will never be liked or respected by many of the fans. We are the richest, best sponsored and most supported club in the world. We fill Old Trafford every game. We have a new manager who looks and feels like the RIGHT choice for the job and we have just come through a very successful pre-season tour where we beat everyone we played, and played some lovely football that completely eradicated the memories of the shite we had to endure last season. We have added two quality players and are still adapting to a new system and manager who has said he wants to strengthen. There is still 10 days left of the transfer season. We still don't know who United have or are in for, and despite everything there is still far more reason to be optimistic than last season.
The only mistake I can see so far is Ed coming out and saying the things he did. So for that I agree people have a right to be upset and pissed off, but I guarantee he would have got exactly the same amount of shite if he had said absolutely nothing at all. He really cannot win, neither can the Glazers.
Bit of a poor choice of words that, despite the rest being interesting.
They could end up with some dodgy far eastern businessman. The problem is this club is so valuable, who could afford to buy us only a very rich russian or middle eastern sugar daddy. Otherwise we could end up in an even worse situation with even more debt than now. I don't particularly like the Glazers as I feel they lumbered us with debt and tbh they are leeching money out of the club like we are their personal piggy bank. However the alternatives could be great or they could be an unmitigated disaster that could kill the club completely.