Many managers failed to reach semis with teams as strong as those.
Manchester City under Pep Guardiola | Pep on City v Liverpool ref: "He likes to be special"
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Totally disagree.
And after all that it took Aguero to miss two easy chances and conceding from a set piece when Monaco had gone to be eliminated
His lack of pragmatism is astounding ...
Tonight is on Pep and KDB, KDB was atrocious for 90 minutes and should have been pulled first half/half time. We could have got through but.. why not for one game put Yaya and Fern in midfield and bench one of Silva, KDB for one game. Pundits blaming Aguero for the first goal but really it should be on the two cm's of Silva, KdB whose position Kun was covering.
That said had we taken our chances we go through, we didn't and Monaco deserve to be where they are. We need to make the top 4 now and win the FA Cup as Pep said no trophy is a failure.
That said had we taken our chances we go through, we didn't and Monaco deserve to be where they are. We need to make the top 4 now and win the FA Cup as Pep said no trophy is a failure.
Mancini's City were a much better all-round outfit than this bunch IMO. I know Monaco are a very good team these days but a) you shouldn't concede 3 at home and b) City seem to have got worse defensively as the season's gone on
For someone who was for most of his managerial career lauded for his innovative, clever, advanced tactics, he's actually incredibly tactically naive. We've seen it a few times this season, like at Leicester, but tonight was baffling.
And all it took was the Monaco goalkeeper making a howler for City to come back in the first game.
Teams as talented as those Bayern or Barcelona sides? There haven't been too many of them!
He alredy showed he can't use his style of play at Bayern, but he still managed to do something, as he had a squad big and talented enough.
Compared to who? What manager out there wins the majority of the away matches?
I know all that but it was City who had the final say in this 6-6 shitshow, thats all Im saying. They should have had the final say and pissed it away.
Conceding from a set piece v a side who don't score set pieces is unforgivable, it all adds up.
The tactical genius that is Fraudiola (thanks whoever posted that, no idea how I never thought of it despite forever calling him a fraud) got the all important goal in the last quarter of the game and decided that this was the time to instruct his team to push forward even harder. Then instructs his team to play an unbelievably high line to defend a set piece. He still must think he has Messi to save him from his mediocrity.
They play Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea next and us sometime after too. They'd be lucky to get 3 points out of those 4 games. It will be a massive struggle to make top 4.
They play Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea next and us sometime after too. They'd be lucky to get 3 points out of those 4 games. It will be a massive struggle to make top 4.
Really?
Can't wait till we hammer you at Wembley again. It's been far too long.
It's poor considering the sides he had and some of the sides he played on that list aren't really great.
Guardiolol?
This is why Fergie is the GOAT.
Having to adapt according to the match and your resources is the truest test of ability of a Manager.
Now Pep is really having to reach for that Next manager level as he simply doesn't have the level of players that made his sides work well; Much like a young player playing in an all conquering side moving to play in a team on the up with a new league and new way of playing with extra responsibility.
I think Pep will continue with his Van Gaal on Steroids ball-possession tactics, but the problem with Pep's teams has always been his lack of different tactics in terms of team play; Almost entirely relies on one way of playing. Like sort of Wenger's genius disciple.
McManaman did the same earlier.
Seems to have lost a couple yards of pace and acceleration which is quite vital at the top level. Likewise agility, he struggles to twist and turn past opponents with the same frequency of years gone by,will still score goals but is nowhere near as dynamic as before. Much like Sturridge, although in his case it seems to be 3/4 yards. Only hope is that Klopp insinuated there's a possibility it might eventually return even in a couple years. Although I'm not sure how, there doesn't really seem to be a precedent for it,apart from arguably falcao this season.
He made 8 semifinals in a row, winning 2 CL trophies. So obviously he was doing something right, despite not winning too many away games.
It's just an arbitrary stat for the Pep bashers.
I like it.
KDB committed four or five fouls in the second half after he was yellow carded. Shame we didn't have that referee on Monday night.
For all the accolades and trophies it seems all these top managers really need are a couple of world class forwards on top form. Messi, Iniesta, Robben, Lewa, Drogba, Hazard, Henry, Pores, Bergkamp, etc.
Heck even Rodgers almost fell into that category with Suarez and Sturridge.
Heck even Rodgers almost fell into that category with Suarez and Sturridge.
First time I hear someone argue that none of them were penalties, and it's not even coming from a Barca fan.
First one outside the box, second is a dive and neither of the last 2 are deliberate handball, they aren't even looking at the ball.
Was a good laugh to watch the whining again though!
Brendan Rodgers started it. Remember.
okay I'm not going to waste my energy arguing with someone as deluded as yourself. Have a good evening.
Ooh, don't whine like little bitches again like you did last year will you?
Time we got a song for him imo, help me finish it guys.
♪Poop, Poop, wherever you may be,
You are shit without Messi,
...♪
Next two lines are for you lot.
♪Poop, Poop, wherever you may be,
You are shit without Messi,
...♪
Next two lines are for you lot.
Its not just that since he gets his fair share of chances, he just doesn't seem to be able to place his shots anymore.
He can divert crosses across the keeper as good as anybody but give him a chance under pressure and he's nowhere.
It's a strange phenomenon since those instincts should be the last to go
He is so stubborn to change his tactics based on the opposition. Does he not realize that he doesn't have world class players in every position now? City's defensive organisation was amateurish. It is the exact kind of criticism Wenger faces every year.
Whilst I tend to agree they aren't quite as nailed on as some, the first was holding, and the laws say if holding continues into the box its a penalty. The second one I think is 50/50, I don't think the slight shirt pull is enough, but coupled with the trip I'd give it. The third the pundits are talking crap, it doesn't matter at all where the ball was going, intent is the key and I think its unnatural to leave your arm in that 'frozen' position so I think its a penalty. The last one is the most obvious of all, you simply cannot throw your arms above yourself, turn your head away and say "not looking".
Cheers Brendan!Of course not! Barcelona and Bayern are the first ever teams who had great players in the history of the game. Don't you understand! Seriously the envy and bitterness surrounding Pep from some quarters is nothing short of baffling.
Jarrediola because of the bottle he brings.....
.. ill put a coat on my coat for that terrible effort