To be fair, all the refs have been consistently shit all season, not just in United and City games.
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Big time, I just think those 2 have had it hardest though maybe its because I've watched them most.
There's just some horror shows like Spurs taking an offside freekick in City's half and a couple of weeks ago Kane being offside from a throw in. The standard of officiating has been atrocious since day 1. Easily the worst season for it I can remember.
Id imagine I could throw up a City one with just as many poor decisions. Spurs fans could probably do the same for Spurs etc... though I do think United and City have had it toughest.
Probably fair.
I'd wager that no side has had more good luck this season than Arsenal though.
Even the first one is highly debatable. It hit his shoulder/right at the top of his arm and therefore it isn't a penalty. Not to mention he was visibly trying to move his arm inwards.
I haven't saw too much Arsenal but against Burnley they certainly got their fair share. Would be interesting for all the clubs to put together video's like the above into one compilation and send it to PGMOL.
I also thought their goal against us was lucky as Jones was fouled as the ball came in
I think we've had plenty of luck. Rojo has escaped two definite red cards. Bailly escaped one in Ukraine. Ibrahimović was lucky to get away with what he did to Coleman. Then there are the two offside goals, Mkhi's scorpion kick and Zlatan's goal against West Ham.
They probably balance out over a season.
I think we've had a decent amount of luck for the last 5 or 6 weeks which has balanced things out. Up until then we were having at least one shocking decision go against us almost every week.
....how? There's no offside on throw ins...how....
I've not seen enough of Arsenal's games to pass judgement but if that's the case then you should try telling the guys that run the Untold Arsenal website mate. I know there's much ridiculing on here of those on Bluemoon that are convinced there's a blanket agenda against our club but that Arsenal site is on a whole different level believe me, and that's because the site owner himself and his sidekick - an Arsenal fan from Belgium who is also a referee funnily enough - constantly peddle a line that the refs and PGMOL have universally got it in for Arsenal and have done for years. They're convinced Arsenal were stitched up by refs during the 2007-08 title run-in so as to hand United the title. Again, I didn't see enough of their games at the back end of that season to form a clear opinion but it's interesting to note that their downturn in form started as soon as Eduardo suffered that terrible injury at Birmingham so I'd hazard a guess that they're way off beam with their assumption.
Fully expect Bluemoon to have a thread soon where someone goes through every City game from start of season to end and does a tally chart how many decisions go against them.
And conveniently ignore the ones going for them. IT HAPPENS TO EVERY SINGLE CLUB FFS
And conveniently ignore the ones going for them. IT HAPPENS TO EVERY SINGLE CLUB FFS
Uhm, he visibly uses his upper arm/shoulder. It's pretty clearly deliberate, and a clear handball.
You can go to any clubs forum and you will find people moaning that refs are against them.
Thats my point... see below
I wasn't on abut the City game or goal, just a few weeks ago Kane was flagged offside and a freekick given against him from a Spurs throw. Was in there game v Chelsea. Shocking decision too...
He was though marginally offside for the leveller vs City too.
http://www.talkingbaws.com/2017/01/...as-harry-kane-is-ruled-offside-at-a-throw-in/
Ah, fair enough, apologies.
Considering the video evidence posted a few posts above...do you actually still hold this opinion? @Ronetta
The point was in response to ronetta posted that we have had lots of ref decisions in our favour
That said the Coleman thing was never a red. It was a yellow (which was given I think?)
Of course you can, but that wasn't my point - it was moreso that the site owner himself peddles the line that the refs are all corrupt and have it in for Arsenal. There's no other forum that I know of where the site owner themselves do this. Then again, it's a weird site in other ways as they ridicule any Arsenal fan that dares to even mildly criticise Wenger or the people that run the club.
Arsenal mania?
I wasn't aware Arsenal Mania did that to be honest - it seems a decent, mild-mannered site overall. Untold Arsenal is literally on another planet though - there are some good posters on there to be fair, but the overriding majority hang on literally every word of the site owner who, on many occasions, can't even get his facts straight and when he's called out on it he invariably goes quiet.
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I haven't seen it on Arsenal Mania, I haven't heard of Untold Arsenal so didn't realise you dropped in the name of the actual site
Was disappointed to see the video of City fans chanting about gassing, but fair play to the City fan who filmed it.
If you check out Bluemoon there is a thread roundly condemning this and a trying to identify the culprits.
Nice one!
I was very surprised when I saw it and it's good to know that other City fans aren't accepting this.
Surprising for Bluemoon. They generally seem to encourage that type of behaviour from City fans.
I don't doubt that's true but I was commenting more on blaming refs in general, maybe shouldn't have quoted your post in particular.
You can look in any match thread though, on different forums and there will be someone on every page mentioning the refs decisions, how bad they are. Then some go as far as thinking it's a conspiracy against them, then others tag along and so on.
The fact that the site owner of that forum has these views just means he/she happens to be one of these delusional fans.
No they don't !
Give over
No they don't in fairness.
They are far too busy trying to bring down evil David Gill...
http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/memo-david-gill.326567/
Was absolutely disgusting. Hopefully they are found and banned for life. Same as any fans who make fun of Munich, Hillsborough etc... Disgusting stuff.
Apart from Sterling the last 2 weeks what bad decisions have City been on the wrong end off?
After what @Polite_Poster said I checked out what was being said over on Blue Moon about the incident, a very encouraging read!
This has largely gone away at Spurs games, you may or may not realise that we've had a lot of problems at European games in the last few years, but domestically it's pretty much disappeared, with one club being the notable exception.
Clear penalty on sterling vs everton with 0-0
Since Mancini left city, they have won one title and two league cups. In the same period United have one title and one FA cup, and could possibly add another League cup.
The jobs on Peps and Jose's plates are more similar than you would first think. Of course United have slumped lower in the league during that time.
One thing that is striking is the personnel in the team's.
City's successes are the old guard from Mancini's team, plus KDB.
United's defence has changed little but from there forward are unrecognisable, with sporadic appearances from Rooney and Carrick.
I hope that improvements under Jose continue. City still need to rebuild as their team ages, and they have tried, but most signings have not been an improvement on what they had.
So, I'd say that Pep has the harder job, even though I thought Jose had it tougher at the start of this season.
This is probably a good indicator of their relative success in the transfer market, so far.
The jobs on Peps and Jose's plates are more similar than you would first think. Of course United have slumped lower in the league during that time.
One thing that is striking is the personnel in the team's.
City's successes are the old guard from Mancini's team, plus KDB.
United's defence has changed little but from there forward are unrecognisable, with sporadic appearances from Rooney and Carrick.
I hope that improvements under Jose continue. City still need to rebuild as their team ages, and they have tried, but most signings have not been an improvement on what they had.
So, I'd say that Pep has the harder job, even though I thought Jose had it tougher at the start of this season.
This is probably a good indicator of their relative success in the transfer market, so far.
First glimpse of what you'd expect would be the future front three of the club with Sane (21), Sterling (22) and Jesus (19). It's all very early days for Jesus but it's Sane I'm getting very excited about after his last few performances. He seems to have settled in and found a bit of confidence now and he's got everything you'd want from a winger.
They're obviously very quick together but perhaps more surprisingly they're extremely aggressive at defending from the front which is exactly why I think Pep likes them. Throw in De Bruyne just behind them at 25 (who I think Pep has to build his team around next summer) and it could well be a front four you'll see for large chunks of next season.
I'm really struggling to shake the feeling that Pep will look to sell Aguero in the summer if the right offer comes in. I think to do that and not replace him would be a huge mistake, but if he's capable of prizing a younger talent away from a top club then you probably have to consider that now. It's a very difficult call to make.
They're obviously very quick together but perhaps more surprisingly they're extremely aggressive at defending from the front which is exactly why I think Pep likes them. Throw in De Bruyne just behind them at 25 (who I think Pep has to build his team around next summer) and it could well be a front four you'll see for large chunks of next season.
I'm really struggling to shake the feeling that Pep will look to sell Aguero in the summer if the right offer comes in. I think to do that and not replace him would be a huge mistake, but if he's capable of prizing a younger talent away from a top club then you probably have to consider that now. It's a very difficult call to make.
They impressed me yesterday, ok it was an FA Cup match and Palace, but for me Jesus was an surprise because it is not normal for an Brazilian to arrive and play like that in England, for me the biggest talent Brazil produced after Neymar.
I would not be surprised if they sell Aguero, for me Pep is not a big fan of him.
The key next season will be a new goalkeeper to replace Caballero and chalenge Bravo, because Joe Hart for me is out, and replace Sagna, Yaya, Zabaleta and Fernandinho.
I suspect they will make an revolution on the squad and lets see if they will put players from the Academy on the squad.