Manager draft

Joga Bonito said:
Interesting to see who Cutch starts as his midfield duo. Having Robson and ****** does give him extra options.
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A bit of a headache that one, the only one I have in this draft.

crappycraperson said:
He can start all 3 of Robson, Keane and Scholes (06-08) version.

If Fergie had been left unpicked, I had planned on taking him and playing this


----Giggs---Cantona---Ronaldo
-------------Robson-----------
----------Keane--Scholes-----
Evra----Rio-----Stam----Irwin

With Eric in false 9 role. Ronaldo in his 08 avatar
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Nah, to honour Fergie it's gotta be 4-4-2 all the way. If it gets me beat then so be it.
 
crappycraperson said:
He can start all 3 of Robson, Keane and Scholes (06-08) version.

If Fergie had been left unpicked, I had planned on taking him and playing this


----Giggs---Cantona---Ronaldo
-------------Robson-----------
----------Keane--Scholes-----
Evra----Rio-----Stam----Irwin

With Eric in false 9 role. Ronaldo in his 08 avatar
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Did we play a 4-3-3 frequently though? If I am not wrong I always remember it as 4-4-2 with a midfield duo of Scholes-Carrick for most part and Giggs Ronaldo on the flank with Saha/Tevez- Rooney up front. I do remember playing a 4-3-3 in the CL final in 09 I think. Anyway not playing a 4-4-2 with Fergie as your manager just seems alien.
 
Joga Bonito said:
Did we play a 4-3-3 frequently though? If I am not wrong I always remember it as 4-4-2 with a midfield duo of Scholes-Carrick for most part and Giggs Ronaldo on the flank with Saha/Tevez- Rooney up front. I do remember playing a 4-3-3 in the CL final in 09 I think. Anyway not playing a 4-4-2 with Fergie as your manager just seems alien.
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Not sure we played 442 with Ronaldo during 06-08 unless you think there is no difference between 4231 and 442. Both Carrick and Scholes operated as deep CMs.. Rooney dropped in the hole, Ronaldo played much more advanced than the traditional winger in 442.

And as you said in CL final we played 433 for considerable part of the game
 
Anyway, we'll go with Batigol's #10 pal from Fiorentina - They struck up a pretty spectacular partnership before the turn of the century.

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Cutch said:
A bit of a headache that one, the only one I have in this draft.



Nah, to honour Fergie it's gotta be 4-4-2 all the way. If it gets me beat then so be it.
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I had a similar dilemma where you know you will probably get beat if you stay true to your manager's tactics and philosophy in certain scenarios. Say you are a high-line possession based team against a brilliant defensive and counter-attacking side, it might not be the best way to set your team.

Joga Bonito said:
Just one question. Say you pick a manager and stick to his philosophy and tactical set-up to the tee. What if you encounter another manager who counters your manager's team heavily and will probably beat you if you stick with your selected manager's current tactics/philosophy. What do you do then? Do you stay honest to the philosophy and tactical set-up of the manager that you've selected, knowing that it would probably result in a defeat or drastically change the set-up so as to beat the opposing team? The latter would be more practical but unnatural as you aren't staying true to your manager's style and identity.

Oh and can the manager play in his own team?
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Annahnomoss said:
People decided it would be best to just disregard that. If you want to stay true to your manager the better for you, but in such an extreme situation it is best to change.

The manager can not play in his own team, having been the assistant/president or whatever does not count either, only the head manager counts.
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So I guess you try your best to stay true to your manager's ideals and tactical set-up unless in the extreme case, you can afford to take a bit of liberty to make changes to avoid a certain defeat.
 
01. Harms:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Platini 2. Scirea 3. Boniek 4. Bergomi 5. Gentile 6. Cuccureddu 7. Benetti 8. P. Rossi 9. Furino 10. Zoff
02. AngeloHenriquez/Stobzilla:- Fabio Capello- 1. F. Baresi 2. Gullit 3. Van Basten 4. Hierro 5. Totti 6. Samuel 7. Emerson 8. Boban 9. Tassotti 10. Candela
03. Jayvin:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. Davids 2. Kaka 3. Cannavaro 4. Shevchenko 5. Ashley Cole 6. Drogba 7. Thiago Silva 8. G. Buffon 9. Alonso 10. Benarrivo
04. Paolo Di Canio:- Louis Van Gaal - 1. Rijkaard 2. Rivaldo 3. Guardiola 4. Ribéry 5. Kluivert 6. Blind 7. Van Bommel 8. Overmars 9 F. De Boer 10. Schweinsteiger
05. Skizzo:- Udo Lattek - 1. Maradona 2. G. Müller 3. Breitner 4. Rummenigge 5. Augenthaler 6. Lerby 7. Roth 8. Stielike 9. J. Hansen 10. Simonsen
06. MJJ:- Marcello Lippi - 1. R. Baggio 2. Thuram 3. Del Piero 4. Vieri 5. Ferrara 6. Zambrotta 7. Conte 8.Deschamps 9. Zanetti 10. Peruzzi
07. Joga Bonito:- Udo Lattek - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Schuster 3. Vogts 4. Brehme 5. Schwarzenbeck 6. Hoeneß 7. Bonhof 8. Wimmer 9. Maier 10. Heynckes
08. Balu/PedroMendez:- Béla Guttmann - 1. Bozsik 2. Puskás 3. C. Maldini 4. Grosics 5. Mauro Ramos 6. Coluna 7. Augusto 8. Eusebio 9. Joya 10. Gonçalves
09. Raees:- Vicente Del Bosque - 1. Ronaldo 2. Figo 3. M. Laudrup 4. Seedorf 5. Sanchis 6. Helguera 7. L. Enrique 8. Iligner 9. Zamorano 10. Michel 12. Makelele
10. Cutch:- Alex Ferguson - 1. Beckham 2. Stam 3. Van Nistelrooy 4. Cantona 5. Ferdinand 6. Irwin 7. Schmeichel 8. G. Neville 9. Keane 10. Robson
11. Gio:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Matthäus 2. Batistuta 3. Tardelli 4. Kohler 5. Cabrini 6. Reuter 7. Klinsmann 8. Passarella 9. Rivera 10. R. Costa
12. Edgar Allan Pillow:- Fabio Capello - 1. P. Maldini 2. Nedved 3. Redondo 4. Desailly 5. Savićević 6. Costacurta 7. Albertini 8. Donadoni 9. Panucci
13. The Red Viper:- Pep Guardiola - 1. Lahm 2. Robben 3. Puyol 4. Xavi 5. Iniesta 6. Henry 7. Piqué 8. Busquets 9. Messi
14. DanNistelrooy:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Nesta 3. Pirlo 4. Gattuso 5. Bale 6. Ibrahimovic 7. Di María 8. Terry 9. Ivanović
15. Annahnomoss:- Vanderlei Luxemburgo - 1. Zidane 2. Cafu 3. R. Carlos 4. Raul 5. Gamarra 6. Dida 7. Mauro Silva 8. Ze Roberto 9. Mazinho 10. Ronaldinho 11. Ronaldão 12. Romario
16. Crappycraperson:- Rinus Michels - 1. Migueli 2. Cruyff 3. Neeskens 4. Krol 5. Asensi 6. Haan 7. Suurbier 8. Littbarski 9. Schumacher 12. Kiezer
 
Theon said:
Anyway, we'll go with Batigol's #10 pal from Fiorentina - They struck up a pretty spectacular partnership before the turn of the century.

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I was sure that he would be your first pick here, ahead of Rivera. He was certainly better player under Trap (did I just said that Rui Costa was superior to Rivera? That feels wrong)

Great pick
 
harms said:
I was sure that he would be your first pick here, ahead of Rivera. He was certainly better player under Trap (did I just said that Rui Costa was superior to Rivera? That feels wrong)

Great pick
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Depending on the opponent they can go two up top with one AM behind them or Batigol with Costa and Rivera behind
 
With Ronaldo under Fergie we almost played a lobsided 4-3-3 when Giggs was in the side.

It wasn't two wingers, it was asymmetrical with Ronaldo significantly advanced on the right and Giggs tucked in deeper on the left, with one of Tevez/Rooney pulling out to the left. A great side.

But aye, Fergie needs to play a 4-4-2. It'll be interesting if/when Cutch adds Ronaldo - I think that is a scenario in which if you want to persist with 4-4-2, you choose Robbo over Scholes.
 
crappycraperson said:
Not sure we played 442 with Ronaldo during 06-08 unless you think there is no difference between 4231 and 442. Both Carrick and Scholes operated as deep CMs.. Rooney dropped in the hole, Ronaldo played much more advanced than the traditional winger in 442.

And as you said in CL final we played 433 for considerable part of the game
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Yup. It was more of a 4-2-3-1 with Rooney playing of Saha or a duo of Tevez and Rooney later on. Giggs and Ronaldo on the wings with Giggs being a bit more central and Ronaldo being more advanced and burdened with less tracking back. Carrick and Scholes being the deep-lying midfield duo. It was rarely a genuine 4-3-3 with three proper central-midfielders(like Robson, Scholes, Keane) for most of the time.
 
crappycraperson said:
He can start all 3 of Robson, Keane and Scholes (06-08) version.

If Fergie had been left unpicked, I had planned on taking him and playing this


----Giggs---Cantona---Ronaldo
-------------Robson-----------
----------Keane--Scholes-----
Evra----Rio-----Stam----Irwin

With Eric in false 9 role. Ronaldo in his 08 avatar
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He should definitely stick to 4-4-2 with Fergie, will just feel wrong see him start anything else, and voters will be cruel.
 
Joga Bonito said:
I had a similar dilemma where you know you will probably get beat if you stay true to your manager's tactics and philosophy in certain scenarios. Say you are a high-line possession based team against a brilliant defensive and counter-attacking side, it might not be the best way to set your team.





So I guess you try your best to stay true to your manager's ideals and tactical set-up unless in the extreme case, you can afford to take a bit of liberty to make changes to avoid a certain defeat.
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You don't need to stay true to your managers tactics and own choices, just saying if you do I am sure it will benefit you more than it will be an issue.

Some managers in particular like Fergie will get a huge boost in votes from doing so, while others like Pep would probably not gain a whole lot of love-votes.
 
01. Harms:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Platini 2. Scirea 3. Boniek 4. Bergomi 5. Gentile 6. Cuccureddu 7. Benetti 8. P. Rossi 9. Furino 10. Zoff
02. AngeloHenriquez/Stobzilla:- Fabio Capello- 1. F. Baresi 2. Gullit 3. Van Basten 4. Hierro 5. Totti 6. Samuel 7. Emerson 8. Boban 9. Tassotti 10. Candela
03. Jayvin:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. Davids 2. Kaka 3. Cannavaro 4. Shevchenko 5. Ashley Cole 6. Drogba 7. Thiago Silva 8. G. Buffon 9. Alonso 10. Benarrivo
04. Paolo Di Canio:- Louis Van Gaal - 1. Rijkaard 2. Rivaldo 3. Guardiola 4. Ribéry 5. Kluivert 6. Blind 7. Van Bommel 8. Overmars 9 F. De Boer 10. Schweinsteiger
05. Skizzo:- Udo Lattek - 1. Maradona 2. G. Müller 3. Breitner 4. Rummenigge 5. Augenthaler 6. Lerby 7. Roth 8. Stielike 9. J. Hansen 10. Simonsen
06. MJJ:- Marcello Lippi - 1. R. Baggio 2. Thuram 3. Del Piero 4. Vieri 5. Ferrara 6. Zambrotta 7. Conte 8.Deschamps 9. Zanetti 10. Peruzzi
07. Joga Bonito:- Udo Lattek - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Schuster 3. Vogts 4. Brehme 5. Schwarzenbeck 6. Hoeneß 7. Bonhof 8. Wimmer 9. Maier 10. Heynckes
08. Balu/PedroMendez:- Béla Guttmann - 1. Bozsik 2. Puskás 3. C. Maldini 4. Grosics 5. Mauro Ramos 6. Coluna 7. Augusto 8. Eusebio 9. Joya 10. Gonçalves
09. Raees:- Vicente Del Bosque - 1. Ronaldo 2. Figo 3. M. Laudrup 4. Seedorf 5. Sanchis 6. Helguera 7. L. Enrique 8. Iligner 9. Zamorano 10. Michel 12. Makelele
10. Cutch:- Alex Ferguson - 1. Beckham 2. Stam 3. Van Nistelrooy 4. Cantona 5. Ferdinand 6. Irwin 7. Schmeichel 8. G. Neville 9. Keane 10. Robson
11. Gio:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Matthäus 2. Batistuta 3. Tardelli 4. Kohler 5. Cabrini 6. Reuter 7. Klinsmann 8. Passarella 9. Rivera 10. R. Costa
12. Edgar Allan Pillow:- Fabio Capello - 1. P. Maldini 2. Nedved 3. Redondo 4. Desailly 5. Savićević 6. Costacurta 7. Albertini 8. Donadoni 9. Panucci 10. Suker
13. The Red Viper:- Pep Guardiola - 1. Lahm 2. Robben 3. Puyol 4. Xavi 5. Iniesta 6. Henry 7. Piqué 8. Busquets 9. Messi
14. DanNistelrooy:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Nesta 3. Pirlo 4. Gattuso 5. Bale 6. Ibrahimovic 7. Di María 8. Terry 9. Ivanović
15. Annahnomoss:- Vanderlei Luxemburgo - 1. Zidane 2. Cafu 3. R. Carlos 4. Raul 5. Gamarra 6. Dida 7. Mauro Silva 8. Ze Roberto 9. Mazinho 10. Ronaldinho 11. Ronaldão 12. Romario
16. Crappycraperson:- Rinus Michels - 1. Migueli 2. Cruyff 3. Neeskens 4. Krol 5. Asensi 6. Haan 7. Suurbier 8. Littbarski 9. Schumacher 12. Kiezer
 
Really stoked with this draft so far. A lot of new players picked and I've not been so overwhelmed with football stories since the World Cup draft.
 
"Tramps" is the best that I've come up with so far, I need some help with the name :lol:
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
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Think he will pick a certain RB to replace Michel with Figo taking his place. Maybe play Enrique as a LB.

So a back 4 of Enrique, Sanchis, Helguera, ***** . Midfield diamond of Makelele, Seedorf, Figo, Laudrup and a forward duo of Ronaldo, Zamorano. He does have a few options though.
 
I might be off soon.. so posting my pick now.. not like someone can pick him .. found a great read on him

"When you put on your shirt and lace up your boots, you have to win. Otherwise, you should stay at home and watch television."-
Velibor Vasovic


In 1965, Rinus Michels took over as Ajax coach in a bid to pull themselves away from the relegation zone, and achieved it. However, Michels’ goals were much higher than that and having won the league in the very next season, he realised there had to be changes if the Dutch club aimed at European success.

Michels was undoubtedly one of the best – or perhaps, even the best – tactical minds to have graced football, and and it is not particularly surprising when he realised in 1966 that even though he had at his disposal, some of the best attackers in the continent in Piet Keizer, Sjaak Swart and of course, the young Johan Cruijff, that his team will never reach the zenith without a solid defence.

Tonnie Pronk and Frits Soutekouw were not horrid defenders by any means, they just did not have the attitude or technical prowess Michels expected his defenders to have. The Dutchman had played under Jack Reynolds at Ajax and the Englishman’s philosophy of attack being the best defence and looked for a player who could emulate that characteristic on pitch.

Moreover, Michels realised that though there was an abundance of talent, the correct mindset was missing. Too often, as Dutch mentalities can tend to be, there was a lack of a winning mentality in the young Ajax squad. They lacked the arrogance, (which for many, is what actuallywould turn out to be the hamartia of the Oranje in the 1974 World Cup final) and self-assurance. So, Rinus Michels set out on an expedition to search high and low for a player who ticked these boxes for him, perhaps the final jigsaw of his own goudenploeg (golden team).

In short, he was hoping to chance upon Velibor Vasovic.

Knowing that Ajax would contest in the European Cup, having won the Eredivisie, Michels was not one who would settle for losses in Europe, writing them off as ‘experience’. As a result, his search began right after Ajax had triumphed in the league. Michels had watched Vasovic’s Partizan lose to a Real Madrid with the likes of Pirri and Gento in Brussels, but was highly impressed with the Yugoslav centreback’s tendency to burst out in attack when he was in possession of the ball. He approached Vasovic through a mutual friend and official talks were held in October of 1966, a few months before ‘de Mistwestrijd’ thrashing of Shankly’s Liverpool and the subsequent disappointing exit at the hands of underdogs Dukla Prague.

Vasovic was not satisfied with the price offered by the Amsterdam club, but wanting a move away from Belgrade, with Ajax the only viable option and convinced with Michels’ vision for the club and his own role in it, Vasovic signed for the Godenzonen in December 1966 and was immediately drafted into the first XI, paired with Barry Hulshoff, 8 years his junior. Vasovic himself was not old at the time, only 27, but in comparison to the rest of the Ajax squad, he was a veteran and he knew it. By no means, modest, he realised then the impact he could have at the football club, just by sharing his experience and showing the younger generation how to play in order to win.

“When I came, I preferred to play a kind of total football. I played the last man in defence, the libero. Michels made this plan to play very offensive football. We discussed it. I was the architect, together with Michels, of the aggressive way of defending. I did small things, like make an offisde or stand in the wall to make a gap for goals. When you see examples from other players on field, you learn a hundred times better than in training,” he said, with the same air of confidence he had around him when he arrived at Ajax. His self-assurance became contagious at the de Meer, not the least infecting Johan Cruijff, who looked to the Prozevac-born defender like his elder brother.

As we gaze back at the past now, his last sentence there could not have been more true. With him around, his young 19-year-old partner in defence, Hulshoff learnt how to read the game with precision, so much so that though Michels asked of him to be stronger and rougher on field, he never had to, because he would never let attackers get that close. Ruud Krol, who played leftback when Vasovic was at Ajax, would later become a sweeper himself has also acknowledged the Yugoslav’s input in his own development as a player, talking about how he would try to emulate Vasovic.

Moroever, Vasovic had a resilient aura about him that was ever so vital in transforming Ajax from a team that played beautifully to a team that won beautifully. There was a lot more steel in the Golden Ajax team than many romantics would have you believe and Vasovic made sure that the defence remained efficient while being offensive and aggressive. Vasco was one who certainly knew the detour from the road of arrogance to the road of complacency and with the help of Michels, made sure he and the team were on the right track.

Looking a bit like Johan Cruijff’s older, stouter brother too, Vasovic was given the captaincy by Michels, hence making him the first ever foreign player to have captained Ajax, and he got the honour of being captain in the clubs’s bid to win their first European Cup. But as he was, four years previously in Brussels, Vasovic was denied the chance to get his hands on ‘Big-Ears’ even though he had scored in his second European final, though this team his Ajax were beaten soundly by Milan. 4-1 it ended and by the end of the match, Vasovic had but one resolve. He knew his career was not going to last long, especially with his asthma, even though he was only 30 at the time. Even though they had just won two Eredivisie titles on the trot, nothing matches the exultation of being decreed as the best in Europe. ‘Vasco’ was possibly the one determined, more than anyone in that Ajax team to win the European Cup.

Perhaps the biggest aid for this dream of his, came in the form of a 19-year-old, wild-haired Dutch lad with a penchant to run equally wildly at the opponents, the young Johan Neeskens. In a way, Neeskens brought the best out of Vasovic himself. Neeskens would hound the opposition into their own half while Vasovic realised his defence’s relative positions compared to the opponent attacker’s and urged his defenders to move forward and decrease the space or ‘pitch’ available for the opponents. This was effectively, the invention of the offside trap and the high line that Ajax still use today.

Moreover, it involved the very Dutch concept of space, which Michels based Total Football on. As Barry Hulshoff puts it, “You make space, you come into space.”. The more successful Ajax teams – including the recent hattrick-championship-winning ones – have always been built on a foundation of technically brilliant defenders who are more-than-capable passers, and Vasovic was the one who undoubtedly set the precedent. As David Winner puts it, Vasovic was a ‘battle-hardened veteran and inspiring competitor who could teach the youngsters a thing or two about winning football matches.’

All these tactics were not yet known of in other shores and this meant 1971 was the year, when Velibor Vasovic would get third time lucky and lift his and Ajax’s first European Cup, as captain. With that, he would hang his boots up, only 32 and only having played 13 full seasons in his entire career. He had found his Holy Grail and he was content, leaving the Netherlands as an Ajax legend and having spearheaded some of the biggest tactical innovations football has seen and uses today.
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01. Harms:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Platini 2. Scirea 3. Boniek 4. Bergomi 5. Gentile 6. Cuccureddu 7. Benetti 8. P. Rossi 9. Furino 10. Zoff
02. AngeloHenriquez/Stobzilla:- Fabio Capello- 1. F. Baresi 2. Gullit 3. Van Basten 4. Hierro 5. Totti 6. Samuel 7. Emerson 8. Boban 9. Tassotti 10. Candela
03. Jayvin:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. Davids 2. Kaka 3. Cannavaro 4. Shevchenko 5. Ashley Cole 6. Drogba 7. Thiago Silva 8. G. Buffon 9. Alonso 10. Benarrivo
04. Paolo Di Canio:- Louis Van Gaal - 1. Rijkaard 2. Rivaldo 3. Guardiola 4. Ribéry 5. Kluivert 6. Blind 7. Van Bommel 8. Overmars 9 F. De Boer 10. Schweinsteiger
05. Skizzo:- Udo Lattek - 1. Maradona 2. G. Müller 3. Breitner 4. Rummenigge 5. Augenthaler 6. Lerby 7. Roth 8. Stielike 9. J. Hansen 10. Simonsen
06. MJJ:- Marcello Lippi - 1. R. Baggio 2. Thuram 3. Del Piero 4. Vieri 5. Ferrara 6. Zambrotta 7. Conte 8.Deschamps 9. Zanetti 10. Peruzzi
07. Joga Bonito:- Udo Lattek - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Schuster 3. Vogts 4. Brehme 5. Schwarzenbeck 6. Hoeneß 7. Bonhof 8. Wimmer 9. Maier 10. Heynckes
08. Balu/PedroMendez:- Béla Guttmann - 1. Bozsik 2. Puskás 3. C. Maldini 4. Grosics 5. Mauro Ramos 6. Coluna 7. Augusto 8. Eusebio 9. Joya 10. Gonçalves
09. Raees:- Vicente Del Bosque - 1. Ronaldo 2. Figo 3. M. Laudrup 4. Seedorf 5. Sanchis 6. Helguera 7. L. Enrique 8. Iligner 9. Zamorano 10. Michel 12. Makelele
10. Cutch:- Alex Ferguson - 1. Beckham 2. Stam 3. Van Nistelrooy 4. Cantona 5. Ferdinand 6. Irwin 7. Schmeichel 8. G. Neville 9. Keane 10. Robson
11. Gio:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Matthäus 2. Batistuta 3. Tardelli 4. Kohler 5. Cabrini 6. Reuter 7. Klinsmann 8. Passarella 9. Rivera 10. R. Costa
12. Edgar Allan Pillow:- Fabio Capello - 1. P. Maldini 2. Nedved 3. Redondo 4. Desailly 5. Savićević 6. Costacurta 7. Albertini 8. Donadoni 9. Panucci 10. Suker
13. The Red Viper:- Pep Guardiola - 1. Lahm 2. Robben 3. Puyol 4. Xavi 5. Iniesta 6. Henry 7. Piqué 8. Busquets 9. Messi
14. DanNistelrooy:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Nesta 3. Pirlo 4. Gattuso 5. Bale 6. Ibrahimovic 7. Di María 8. Terry 9. Ivanović
15. Annahnomoss:- Vanderlei Luxemburgo - 1. Zidane 2. Cafu 3. R. Carlos 4. Raul 5. Gamarra 6. Dida 7. Mauro Silva 8. Ze Roberto 9. Mazinho 10. Ronaldinho 11. Ronaldão 12. Romario
16. Crappycraperson:- Rinus Michels - 1. Migueli 2. Cruyff 3. Neeskens 4. Krol 5. Asensi 6. Haan 7. Suurbier 8. Littbarski 9. Schumacher 10. Vasovic 11. Kiezer
 
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