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Pat_Mustard said:
^I'd love to see a Bebeto/Romario partnership too. They were electric together. Didn't they used to dislike each other before their WC94 bro-mance, or was that Romario and Edmundo?
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When the striker Bebeto put Brazil ahead of the Netherlands, 2-0, in the World Cup quarterfinals last Saturday, he bolted for the sideline and began swinging his arms, rocking an imaginary baby in homage of his two-day-old son, Matthaus, named after the German star Lothar Matthaus. Joining Bebeto was Romario, a teammate generally known for rocking the boat, not the cradle.

Bebeto and Romario, though teammates on the Brazilian national team, are fierce rivals in the Spanish League. Bebeto led the Spanish first division with 29 goals in 1992-93 and Romario led it with 30 goals in 1993-94. It was Romario who gave Bebeto the nickname Chorao, or Crybaby, for his habit of pouting to referees. It was also Romario who called a news conference before the World Cup to announce that he would not sit next to Bebeto on the team's flight to California.

Fast friends they are not. But they have put their personal differences aside for a professional unanimity and commonality of purpose. Brazil is on the verge of winning its first World Cup since 1970 because Bebeto and Romario have become Lethal Weapon I and II, scoring seven goals between them in five games and providing soccer's most dangerous, threatening attack. Two Matadors

"We have the perfect combination," said Coach Carlos Alberto Parreira. "They are both skillful players, outstanding players. They are matadors, killers inside the penalty area."

Today, as if to underscore their camaraderie, Romario and Bebeto held a joint news conference. Romario said that reports of enmity between the two players were "lies."

"We are different people," Romario said. "Bebeto is a family type, stay at home. I'm a street cat. I respect Bebeto a lot. He knows how much I like him. Nothing that is said is going to affect anything we do on the field."

Bebeto said: "The affection I have for him is very big."

Though they have the same ravenous instinct for scoring; they are different in build, personality, style. There is no confusing one for the other. Romario is short and stocky at 5 feet 6 inches, 154 pounds, Bebeto taller and reedy at 5-10, 150 pounds. A Cunning Rascal

Romario roots himself in the penalty area and waits patiently for a predatory moment to strike, full of cunning and deception. Bebeto is quick, nimble, an elegant finisher, a roamer capable of playing as a midfielder, superb at bending free kicks around a defensive wall, skillful at serving up inviting headers on corner kicks. He led Brazil with six goals during World Cup qualifying. Although less flamboyant than Romario, Bebeto is perhaps more complete.

"The only thing we have in common is that we both score goals," Romario said. "Bebeto is a much more free-flowing player than I am. For 90 minutes, he's always concentrating on what's going on. My strength is, a lot of people think I'm asleep."

Said Bebeto of Romario: "He finishes like nobody. He's got velocity in short spaces; there, he's really my friend. People think he's hanging around, stopped, then, bang, it's a goal."

Their work together in the World Cup has been diligent and unselfish. Against the United States, it was Romario who dispensed a splendid pass to Bebeto, steaming down the right flank, that provided the game's only goal. The two embraced in what appeared to be genuine revelry and appreciation for each other's contribution. Bebeto then spoke something into Romario's ear "like one brother to another."

"I hope I will be able to say similar words to him in the near future," Romario said at the time.

The near future came in five days, in the 52d minute against the Netherlands, when Bebeto launched a perfect cross from the left wing to a chugging Romario, who deftly fielded the pass like an infielder on the short hop and punched the ball inside the right post for a 1-0 Brazil lead.

When Bebeto scored the second Brazilian goal, Romario rushed up with midfielder Mazinho to join Bebeto in that paternal chorus line.

"I hope he comes up with another baby this week so we keep winning," Romario said today.

That celebrative moment was in stark contrast to an incident last month in Rio de Janeiro, when Bebeto's pregnant wife, Denise de Oliveira, was robbed by two gunmen of her car and a Rolex watch in an apparent attempt to kidnap Bebeto's brother Wilson. Now, however, with his wife safe and his newborn son healthy, the 30-year-old Jose (Bebeto) Roberto Gama de Oliveira has finally found the peace and success that previously eluded him at the World Cup.

He had a falling out with Brazilian Coach Sebastiao Lazaroni in 1990 and played only seven minutes during the World Cup in Italy. Bebeto then quit the national team when Paulo Roberto Falcao was named as Lazaroni's successor, returning only when Parreira was hired three years ago.

"I don't know anyone who mixes finesse and force with so much joy," Parreira has said. To Kick or Not to Kick

If Bebeto has a weakness, it is a physical and psychological fragility. He can be knocked off the ball. He tends to whine. And he stunned supporters of Deportiva de La Coruna in the final game of the Spanish League season by declining to take a penalty kick in a game that finished 0-0 and gave the title to Romario's FC Barcelona club. If the chance reappears in the World Cup, Bebeto said he would not hesitate to take the kick.

"A lot of people have said the yellow jersey is a pretty jersey, but it didn't have a heart beating inside," Romario said of Brazil's uniform. "Following this World Cup, it might be possible to say it's still a pretty jersey, but now with 11 hearts beating inside."
 
Found this. Seem till before they stuck up the national team partnership, they were not be best of mates. The success probably led to a mutual respect and maybe friendship.

Bebeto had been the top goalscorer in Spain with Deportivo La Coruna the season before with 29 goals, but had refused to take a penalty in the final game of the 93/94 season against Valencia, a game they needed to win to first ever La Liga title. His teammate Dukic stepped up, missed, and the game ended in a draw, allowing Romario’s Barcelona to clinch the league.

Their club rivalry seemingly went a little deeper to a more personal level. Romario once branded Bebeto ‘Chorao’, or ‘Cry Baby’, believing he had a habit of complaining to referees. The fiery striker also declared in a pre-World Cup press conference that he would refuse to sit next to Bebeto on the plane.
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Annahnomoss said:
When the striker Bebeto put Brazil ahead of the Netherlands, 2-0, in the World Cup quarterfinals last Saturday, he bolted for the sideline and began swinging his arms, rocking an imaginary baby in homage of his two-day-old son, Matthaus, named after the German star Lothar Matthaus. Joining Bebeto was Romario, a teammate generally known for rocking the boat, not the cradle.

Bebeto and Romario, though teammates on the Brazilian national team, are fierce rivals in the Spanish League. Bebeto led the Spanish first division with 29 goals in 1992-93 and Romario led it with 30 goals in 1993-94. It was Romario who gave Bebeto the nickname Chorao, or Crybaby, for his habit of pouting to referees. It was also Romario who called a news conference before the World Cup to announce that he would not sit next to Bebeto on the team's flight to California.

Fast friends they are not. But they have put their personal differences aside for a professional unanimity and commonality of purpose. Brazil is on the verge of winning its first World Cup since 1970 because Bebeto and Romario have become Lethal Weapon I and II, scoring seven goals between them in five games and providing soccer's most dangerous, threatening attack. Two Matadors

"We have the perfect combination," said Coach Carlos Alberto Parreira. "They are both skillful players, outstanding players. They are matadors, killers inside the penalty area."

Today, as if to underscore their camaraderie, Romario and Bebeto held a joint news conference. Romario said that reports of enmity between the two players were "lies."

"We are different people," Romario said. "Bebeto is a family type, stay at home. I'm a street cat. I respect Bebeto a lot. He knows how much I like him. Nothing that is said is going to affect anything we do on the field."

Bebeto said: "The affection I have for him is very big."

Though they have the same ravenous instinct for scoring; they are different in build, personality, style. There is no confusing one for the other. Romario is short and stocky at 5 feet 6 inches, 154 pounds, Bebeto taller and reedy at 5-10, 150 pounds. A Cunning Rascal

Romario roots himself in the penalty area and waits patiently for a predatory moment to strike, full of cunning and deception. Bebeto is quick, nimble, an elegant finisher, a roamer capable of playing as a midfielder, superb at bending free kicks around a defensive wall, skillful at serving up inviting headers on corner kicks. He led Brazil with six goals during World Cup qualifying. Although less flamboyant than Romario, Bebeto is perhaps more complete.

"The only thing we have in common is that we both score goals," Romario said. "Bebeto is a much more free-flowing player than I am. For 90 minutes, he's always concentrating on what's going on. My strength is, a lot of people think I'm asleep."

Said Bebeto of Romario: "He finishes like nobody. He's got velocity in short spaces; there, he's really my friend. People think he's hanging around, stopped, then, bang, it's a goal."

Their work together in the World Cup has been diligent and unselfish. Against the United States, it was Romario who dispensed a splendid pass to Bebeto, steaming down the right flank, that provided the game's only goal. The two embraced in what appeared to be genuine revelry and appreciation for each other's contribution. Bebeto then spoke something into Romario's ear "like one brother to another."

"I hope I will be able to say similar words to him in the near future," Romario said at the time.

The near future came in five days, in the 52d minute against the Netherlands, when Bebeto launched a perfect cross from the left wing to a chugging Romario, who deftly fielded the pass like an infielder on the short hop and punched the ball inside the right post for a 1-0 Brazil lead.

When Bebeto scored the second Brazilian goal, Romario rushed up with midfielder Mazinho to join Bebeto in that paternal chorus line.

"I hope he comes up with another baby this week so we keep winning," Romario said today.

That celebrative moment was in stark contrast to an incident last month in Rio de Janeiro, when Bebeto's pregnant wife, Denise de Oliveira, was robbed by two gunmen of her car and a Rolex watch in an apparent attempt to kidnap Bebeto's brother Wilson. Now, however, with his wife safe and his newborn son healthy, the 30-year-old Jose (Bebeto) Roberto Gama de Oliveira has finally found the peace and success that previously eluded him at the World Cup.

He had a falling out with Brazilian Coach Sebastiao Lazaroni in 1990 and played only seven minutes during the World Cup in Italy. Bebeto then quit the national team when Paulo Roberto Falcao was named as Lazaroni's successor, returning only when Parreira was hired three years ago.

"I don't know anyone who mixes finesse and force with so much joy," Parreira has said. To Kick or Not to Kick

If Bebeto has a weakness, it is a physical and psychological fragility. He can be knocked off the ball. He tends to whine. And he stunned supporters of Deportiva de La Coruna in the final game of the Spanish League season by declining to take a penalty kick in a game that finished 0-0 and gave the title to Romario's FC Barcelona club. If the chance reappears in the World Cup, Bebeto said he would not hesitate to take the kick.

"A lot of people have said the yellow jersey is a pretty jersey, but it didn't have a heart beating inside," Romario said of Brazil's uniform. "Following this World Cup, it might be possible to say it's still a pretty jersey, but now with 11 hearts beating inside."
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Great article. Cheers mate. I :lol:'ed at Romario describing himself as a 'street cat'. Old school.
 
Annahnomoss said:
"The only thing we have in common is that we both score goals," Romario said. "Bebeto is a much more free-flowing player than I am. For 90 minutes, he's always concentrating on what's going on. My strength is, a lot of people think I'm asleep."
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:lol:
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Found this. Seem till before they stuck up the national team partnership, they were not be best of mates. The success probably led to a mutual respect and maybe friendship.

Bebeto had been the top goalscorer in Spain with Deportivo La Coruna the season before with 29 goals, but had refused to take a penalty in the final game of the 93/94 season against Valencia, a game they needed to win to first ever La Liga title. His teammate Dukic stepped up, missed, and the game ended in a draw, allowing Romario’s Barcelona to clinch the league.
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I know it's unfair, but that's what defines my memory of Bebeto, and very much the sort of thing that made Romario so special to me (he remains to this day the only Brazilian I've seen raise his game against Uruguay, second spot for Ronaldo/Rivaldo who just did their usual, everyone else was/is poorer than usual). I keep mentioning and keep being told it's irrelevant. Character and temperament IS relevant.
 
about 50 minutes left for @MJJ

I have my pick ready, and Paulo's pick as well. Not sure if his pick is possible to MJJ to pick or not, haven't looked into it. I should be heading to bed soon, but I can wait until either time runs out, or he pops up last minute.

@Jayvin are you around for your pick?
 
Skizzo said:
It would have been an injustice to break them up. Not sure if I can give you too many more favours though with the defense you put together already.
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Ah relax, it was just a tongue-in-cheek comment. Just pick the players that you want without taking my team into consideration. It makes it more exciting tbh.

Annahnomoss said:
Matthaus, named after the German star Lothar Matthaus
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Can you guys think of any other famous examples of footballers naming their child after another footballer or a footballer being named after a famous predecessor. I can think of Enzo Francescoli by Zidane, our very own Falcao and I know some ex Bayern player named his children Luca and Toni. Olic was the player I think?
 
Klaus Augenthaler pursued and harvested honours like no other player, making him the most successful individual in Bundesliga history. At Bayern, 'Auge' won the championship seven times (1980, 1981, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1989, 1990), the DFB German Cup three times (1982, 1984, 1986), and was twice a European Champions Cup losing finalist (1982, 1987).

However, the year 1990 was to prove the most glorious in an already illustrious playing career. Augenthaler added spine to the Germany side which doggedly stuck to the task and sealed a 1-0 victory over Argentina in the World Cup Final in Rome, just a few weeks after he had hoisted the Bundesliga shield into the Bavarian sky for a record seventh time.

'Auge' made 404 appearances for Bayern and 27 for Germany, scoring 52 top flight goals. Easily the most famous of these came on 19 August 1989 when he fired Munich's winner in a 1-0 away victory against Eintracht Frankfurt. The player, captain from 1984 to 1991 and filling the libero position at the time, beat Frankfurt keeper Uli Stein with a shot from the halfway line, earning the "Goal of the Season" and "Goal of the Decade" accolades.

His nickname 'Auge', derived from his surname but meaning "the eye" in German, merely hinted at his ability to read the action and control a match from the back, initially as a centre-half and later in his career as a classic libero.

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And what a haircut too!
 
Paulo picks Patrick Kluivert.

01. Harms:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Platini 2. Scirea 3. Boniek 4. Bergomi
02. AngeloHenriquez/Stobzilla:- Fabio Cappello- 1. F. Baresi 2. Gullit 3. Van Basten 4. Hierro
03. Jayvin:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. Davids 2. Kaka 3. Cannavaro 4. Shevchenko
04. Paolo Di Canio:- Louis Van Gaal - 1. Rijkaard 2. Rivaldo 3. Guardiola 4. Ribéry 5. Kluivert
05. Skizzo:- Udo Lattek - 1. Maradona 2. G. Müller 3. Breitner 4. Rummenigge 5. Augenthaler
06. MJJ:- Marcello Lippi - 1. R. Baggio 2. Thuram 3. Del Piero 4. Vieri 5. Ferrara
07. Joga Bonito:- Udo Lattek - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Schuster 3. Vogts 4. Brehme 5. Schwarzenback
08. Balu/PedroMendez:- Béla Guttmann - 1. Bozsik 2. Puskás 3. C. Maldini 4. Grosics 5. Mauro Ramos
09. Raees:- Vicente Del Bosque - 1. Ronaldo 2. Figo 3. M. Laudrup 4. C. Seedorf 5. M. Sanchis
10. Cutch:- Alex Ferguson - 1. Beckham 2. Stam 3. Van Nistelrooy 4. Cantona 5. Ferdinand
11. Gio:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Matthäus 2. Batistuta 3. Tardelli 4. Kohler 5. Cabrini
12. Edgar Allan Pillow:- Fabio Capello - 1. P. Maldini 2. Nedved 3. Redondo 4. Desailly 5. Savićević
13. The Red Viper:- Pep Guardiola - 1. Lahm 2. Robben 3. Puyol 4. Xavi 5. Iniesta
14. DanNistelrooy:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Nesta 3. Pirlo 4. Gattuso 5. Bale
15. Annahnomoss:- Vanderlei Luxemburgo - 1. Zidane 2. Cafu 3. R. Carlos 4. Raul 5. Gamarra 13. Romario
16. Crappycraperson:- Rinus Michels - 1. Migueli 2. Cruyff 3. Neeskens 4. Krol 5. Asensi

@Jayvin
 
Great pick and probably the best Bayern defender after the era of Beckenbauer.
 
So I guess Jayvin fell asleep a few seconds after saying he's around for his pick :lol:.
 
Ashley Cole

@Stobzilla @AngeloHenriquez

01. Harms:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Platini 2. Scirea 3. Boniek 4. Bergomi
02. AngeloHenriquez/Stobzilla:- Fabio Cappello- 1. F. Baresi 2. Gullit 3. Van Basten 4. Hierro
03. Jayvin:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. Davids 2. Kaka 3. Cannavaro 4. Shevchenko 5. Ashley Cole
04. Paolo Di Canio:- Louis Van Gaal - 1. Rijkaard 2. Rivaldo 3. Guardiola 4. Ribéry 5. Kluivert
05. Skizzo:- Udo Lattek - 1. Maradona 2. G. Müller 3. Breitner 4. Rummenigge 5. Augenthaler
06. MJJ:- Marcello Lippi - 1. R. Baggio 2. Thuram 3. Del Piero 4. Vieri 5. Ferrara
07. Joga Bonito:- Udo Lattek - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Schuster 3. Vogts 4. Brehme 5. Schwarzenback
08. Balu/PedroMendez:- Béla Guttmann - 1. Bozsik 2. Puskás 3. C. Maldini 4. Grosics 5. Mauro Ramos
09. Raees:- Vicente Del Bosque - 1. Ronaldo 2. Figo 3. M. Laudrup 4. C. Seedorf 5. M. Sanchis
10. Cutch:- Alex Ferguson - 1. Beckham 2. Stam 3. Van Nistelrooy 4. Cantona 5. Ferdinand
11. Gio:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Matthäus 2. Batistuta 3. Tardelli 4. Kohler 5. Cabrini
12. Edgar Allan Pillow:- Fabio Capello - 1. P. Maldini 2. Nedved 3. Redondo 4. Desailly 5. Savićević
13. The Red Viper:- Pep Guardiola - 1. Lahm 2. Robben 3. Puyol 4. Xavi 5. Iniesta
14. DanNistelrooy:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Nesta 3. Pirlo 4. Gattuso 5. Bale
15. Annahnomoss:- Vanderlei Luxemburgo - 1. Zidane 2. Cafu 3. R. Carlos 4. Raul 5. Gamarra 13. Romario
16. Crappycraperson:- Rinus Michels - 1. Migueli 2. Cruyff 3. Neeskens 4. Krol 5. Asensi
 
01. Harms:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Platini 2. Scirea 3. Boniek 4. Bergomi
02. AngeloHenriquez/Stobzilla:- Fabio Cappello- 1. F. Baresi 2. Gullit 3. Van Basten 4. Hierro 5. Totti
03. Jayvin:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. Davids 2. Kaka 3. Cannavaro 4. Shevchenko 5. Ashley Cole
04. Paolo Di Canio:- Louis Van Gaal - 1. Rijkaard 2. Rivaldo 3. Guardiola 4. Ribéry 5. Kluivert
05. Skizzo:- Udo Lattek - 1. Maradona 2. G. Müller 3. Breitner 4. Rummenigge 5. Augenthaler
06. MJJ:- Marcello Lippi - 1. R. Baggio 2. Thuram 3. Del Piero 4. Vieri 5. Ferrara
07. Joga Bonito:- Udo Lattek - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Schuster 3. Vogts 4. Brehme 5. Schwarzenback
08. Balu/PedroMendez:- Béla Guttmann - 1. Bozsik 2. Puskás 3. C. Maldini 4. Grosics 5. Mauro Ramos
09. Raees:- Vicente Del Bosque - 1. Ronaldo 2. Figo 3. M. Laudrup 4. C. Seedorf 5. M. Sanchis
10. Cutch:- Alex Ferguson - 1. Beckham 2. Stam 3. Van Nistelrooy 4. Cantona 5. Ferdinand
11. Gio:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Matthäus 2. Batistuta 3. Tardelli 4. Kohler 5. Cabrini
12. Edgar Allan Pillow:- Fabio Capello - 1. P. Maldini 2. Nedved 3. Redondo 4. Desailly 5. Savićević
13. The Red Viper:- Pep Guardiola - 1. Lahm 2. Robben 3. Puyol 4. Xavi 5. Iniesta
14. DanNistelrooy:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Nesta 3. Pirlo 4. Gattuso 5. Bale
15. Annahnomoss:- Vanderlei Luxemburgo - 1. Zidane 2. Cafu 3. R. Carlos 4. Raul 5. Gamarra 13. Romario
16. Crappycraperson:- Rinus Michels - 1. Migueli 2. Cruyff 3. Neeskens 4. Krol 5. Asensi

@harms
 
Van Basten - Gullit - Totti triumvirate? Nice. Very Nice.

I am sure EAP would be devastated as I think he would have been perfect for him.
 
The Red Viper said:
Van Basten - Gullit - Totti triumvirate? Nice. Very Nice.

I am sure EAP would be devastated as I think he would have been perfect for him.
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In a false 9 formation like Tito's from aprior draft, maybe. I don't really see what Totti brings to the table here though, would have preferred widemen in Stobz team tbh.
 
Totti clearly brings a completely different level of passing to Gullit or Van Basten.

It's a fantastic pick in a diamond or a 3-5-2. Less so in other systems.
 
I am with anto.. would have prefers two widemen with Guilt behind Basten. People forget that Totti himself is capable of providing a presence in the box and get at the end of chances. Playing him in a purely creative role where his primary role is to create is not his best use IMO. That's why I think his best role is false 9 or second striker
 
I really wanted to have a team with Gullit. When I was about to pick him last game, Theon added him to the block list and Stobzilla picked him up instantly this time around.

The soothing fact was getting hold of Redondo. Maybe next draft, it's destined to happen, or more positively, later this draft! ;)
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
I really wanted to have a team with Gullit. When I was about to pick him last game, Theon added him to the block list and Stobzilla picked him up instantly this time around.

The soothing fact was getting hold of Redondo. Maybe next draft, it's destined to happen!
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Judging by your luck so far. .. I'd say it looks like it's destined to never happen :lol:
 
crappycraperson said:
I am with anto.. would have prefers two widemen with Guilt behind Basten. People forget that Totti himself is capable of providing a presence in the box and get at the end of chances. Playing him in a purely creative role where his primary role is to create is not his best use IMO. That's why I think his best role is false 9 or second striker
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Nah that's not true at all, of course it gets the best out of him. I think people are so used to seeing Totti up front as he's gotten older that they've forgotten what he was like in his prime. Totti was absolutely fantastic as a #10 and it's the role he played for the majority of his career. His best quality is his passing.

Also he did score goals from that position. Lot's of #10's get forward to score goals and Totti was no different - His goal record is fantastic there. It was only 2005/06 that he started playing up top IIRC.
 
Ok, I guess we'll see if this "peak" thing works.

At his peak under Cappello IMO, earned himself a big money move and was one of the best centre backs in the early part of the 00's.

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Walter Samuel.
 
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