Man Utd board warming to Inter Milan boss Mourinho

Who should replace SAF after he retires ?

  • Jose Mourinho

    Votes: 270 58.1%
  • Laurent Blanc

    Votes: 61 13.1%
  • Steve Bruce

    Votes: 8 1.7%
  • Roy Keane

    Votes: 4 0.9%
  • Ole Gunnar Solskjaer

    Votes: 25 5.4%
  • Fabio Capello

    Votes: 10 2.2%
  • Pep Guardiola

    Votes: 8 1.7%
  • Arsene Wenger

    Votes: 5 1.1%
  • Mark Hughes

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • David Moyes

    Votes: 17 3.7%
  • Gus Hiddink

    Votes: 9 1.9%
  • Ottmar Hitzfeld

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Eric Cantona

    Votes: 12 2.6%
  • Alec McCleish

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Frank Rijkaard

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Louis Van Gaal

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Mike Phelan

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Carlos Quieroz

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Dick Advocaat

    Votes: 4 0.9%
  • Harry Redknapp

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Marcello Lippi

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Martin O'Neill

    Votes: 19 4.1%

  • Total voters
    465
  • Poll closed .
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FFS :lol:

And then, Giggs, followed by Beckham, to complete your happy little family?

This is football mate, not playing Sylvanian Families...

It's obvious ole is going down the path of management.

All I said was by 2020 that hopefully he has shown the skills and ability to take over united. i never said that he is going to take over united then.

crawl back to brum to suck off your norn iron toad friend mr. o'neill.
 
It's obvious ole is going down the path of management.

All I said was by 2020 that hopefully he has shown the skills and ability to take over united. i never said that he is going to take over united then.

crawl back to brum to suck off your norn iron toad friend mr. o'neill.

I voted for Moyes, actually.

What makes you think Ole would be the right manager for United? Which qualities? His finishing? His lickle baby face?
 
A question for Elvis and other Mourinho fans: as it now seems fairly likely that Mourinho will move to Madrid this summer, does that change your view of him coming to United?

It seems clear to me that his preferred career path would be to move on now to Madrid having won the CL and Serie A with Inter. He'd like to win the CL again with Madrid as well as La Liga and have done that in time to succeed SAF at United.

That will mean that he's going through clubs at a rate of one every two years - are you really happy to just let United be a small factor on his CV before he inevitably leaves after 2 years to take on the Portugal job?
I have always said that I want him to have gone to Spain and won his La Liga before joining us. He's made it obvious that he wants to win all four titles (Portugese, English, Italian and Spanish), so I'd actually be worried if he joined us without having won the La Liga. That's when I think he'd always have the Spanish league in the back of his mind, and even though I'd expect him to stick around longer than 2 years I'd still know that he would want to go get that title at some stage.

However, as VoetbalWizard said, if he goes to Spain and wins the La Liga in the next couple of years then everything actually seems to be aligning for him to join us and stay for a good 10 years or so until he takes the Portugese job. He'll have won all the titles he wants. He'll have a good period of time before he's ready for the national team. He's obviously enjoyed England most of all (although he hasn't been the manager in Spain yet). He's been sucking up to Fergie quite regularly over the last couple of seasons, and seems to be the type to want to take over from the great man. He mentioned a few months ago that he wants to stay longer-term at a club and actually build a team. It all seems to be aligning.

The main 'problem' that I can see is that Fergie might not be ready to retire when Mourinho decides that it's time to come back to England.
 
The main 'problem' that I can see is that Fergie might not be ready to retire when Mourinho decides that it's time to come back to England.

I have a feeling Mourinho will stay at Real, winning every trophy in sight, until such time as the right job opens in England.
 
I have a feeling Mourinho will stay at Real, winning every trophy in sight, until such time as the right job opens in England.

Can you really see Mourinho and Perez getting on after a season.
 
The italian press is claiming that mourinho wants to take maicon, milito, kolorov and de rossi with him to madrid
 
Interesting quotes from Robben about Mourinho today. I know he might have a chip on his shoulder about his time at Chelsea and the CL Final is coming up, but the quotes seem fair without being bitter.



A question for Elvis and other Mourinho fans: as it now seems fairly likely that Mourinho will move to Madrid this summer, does that change your view of him coming to United?

It seems clear to me that his preferred career path would be to move on now to Madrid having won the CL and Serie A with Inter. He'd like to win the CL again with Madrid as well as La Liga and have done that in time to succeed SAF at United.

That will mean that he's going through clubs at a rate of one every two years - are you really happy to just let United be a small factor on his CV before he inevitably leaves after 2 years to take on the Portugal job?

He wouldn't stay here two years though, I really do think it would be longer than that because a) He has continually stated his love of the English game and his desire to come back, b) He said he will stay in management until he is 70, c) He wants Portugal to be his last job.

But let's just say he did come here, stayed 2 years, then fecked off. So? If he did only stay 2 years he would have been very successful, because otherwise he wouldn't leave, so is there anything wrong with coming in, steadying the ship, continuing our success then handing down the reigns to somebody else? If that did turn out to be the case, then I really don't see the problem.

But as I've said before, I think his next job in England will be a long-term one. He's 47 now, let's say he stays at Madrid for 2 years, he'll then be 49, then he comes to United - do you really think he's going to stay until he's 51 then manage Portugal for 19 years? I really can't see that happening, I think he'd like a couple of shots at the World Cup and Euro's, so he may manage the national team for 6 - 8 years, depending on his success.

But if Madrid is his next job, where is there for him to go after that, other than a team in England? He'll have done it in Portugal, Spain, Italy, and England (Though we know he wants to come back). He's said he'll never manage Barcelona, he's said he doesn't like Italy, and I can't see him going back to Portugal either, so without doubt his next job in England is going to be a long-term one. Hopefully it's with United as I'd have no doubts about our success continuing, and I think people's concerns about the youth side of our club and the way in which we would play our football would soon be quashed, as we have a fantastic youth set up which Mourinho would no doubt take advantage of, and, well, the football argument has been done to death so we won't go there.

It's all about timing though, if Mourinho doesn't win La Liga or the CL next year with Madrid (assuming he goes there), and Sir Alex retires in the summer, then what does he do? Does he leave his project at Madrid and come back at a later date, or does he miss out on the United job this time round, stay at Madrid and wait until the next manager vacates the position?

Who knows, hopefully Sir Alex will just stay until he's 90.
 
Each big club he goes to will just be another notch on his bedpost. He'll stay a while, increase his CV, and move on to the next conquest.

Really, going to Liverpool (if they get big money owners) would make more sense than going to United. A club that are so desperate that they will be happy with a short term jolt of success and don't worry about building for the long-term.

I think you have got his character and ego wrong.

Taking Liverpool to the top again is just another example of what people know he can do.

I think he has the ego to think he can replace Ferguson in every respect.
 
I think you have got his character and ego wrong.

Taking Liverpool to the top again is just another example of what people know he can do.

I think he has the ego to think he can replace Ferguson in every respect.

No, he wants a clubs fans to worship him for giving them success they have been desperate for. Giving Inter the CL, after decades of underachievement in Europe, will do that and he'll feel it's time to move on. Giving Real their tenth CL, after struggling in CL for years, will be mission accomplished at Madrid as well.

Win the league with Liverpool and the scousers will be building golden statues of him on every street corner and lining up to suck his cock.

Win the league with United and we'll be saying "big deal, Fergie won loads of them, and the football was much better as well".
 
No, he wants a clubs fans to worship him for giving them success they have been desperate for. Giving Inter the CL, after decades of underachievement in Europe, will do that and he'll feel it's time to move on. Giving Real their tenth CL, after struggling in CL for years, will be mission accomplished at Madrid as well.

Win the league with Liverpool and the scousers will be building golden statues of him on every street corner and lining up to suck his cock.

Win the league with United and we'll be saying "big deal, Fergie won loads of them, and the football was much better as well".

Our club fans worship Fergie, what if Mourinho replaces him and carries on that success, we'll worship him to for possibly making us the most succesfull british club in Europe as well as domestically, plus the challenge of replacing Fergie is nothing short of monumental, do you not think such an egomaniac wants to say that he defeated all of his doubters once and for all by taking on the biggest job and being succesfull with it?

and the football arguement is a moot point, if you were building a team first things firs you ensure defensive strength, he hasn't had a chance to properly build a team for promotions and then subsequent sackings.
 
If this were a general election - this would be a landslide!

Btw what happened to Blanc - any excuses anyone? :lol:
 
No, he wants a clubs fans to worship him for giving them success they have been desperate for. Giving Inter the CL, after decades of underachievement in Europe, will do that and he'll feel it's time to move on. Giving Real their tenth CL, after struggling in CL for years, will be mission accomplished at Madrid as well.

Win the league with Liverpool and the scousers will be building golden statues of him on every street corner and lining up to suck his cock.

Win the league with United and we'll be saying "big deal, Fergie won loads of them, and the football was much better as well".

I don't agree, I think he wants to look like he took on and achieved things other managers couldn't or wouldn't.

He doesn't give a toss about being worshipped by gap-toothed scousers. He wants his name in the record books and venerated by the wider football world.
 
I don't agree, I think he wants to look like he took on and achieved things other managers couldn't or wouldn't.

He doesn't give a toss about being worshipped by gap-toothed scousers. He wants his name in the record books and venerated by the wider football world.

And winning the league with Liverpool is something that has not been done for decades.
He'd never achieve anything at United that Fergie had not already done. Not unless he planned to stay at United for decades, which is hardly his style.
 
And winning the league with Liverpool is something that has not been done for decades.
He'd never achieve anything at United that Fergie had not already done. Not unless he planned to stay at United for decades, which is hardly his style.

if he stayed 10 years at united, and received the same financial backing that fergie got pre-glazer, i wouldn't be surprised if he was more successful in europe than fergie.

Number 19 will come sooner or later. Mourinho will provide consistency in the league as he is experienced in england and a solid manager.

However for me, I want a manager who will continue (at the very least) if not take us to the next level in the european game. Mourinho is the best manager compared to any of the other options in giving us the best chance for CL's IMO. Unless you are willing to go for someone much older, who certainly has a short shelf life, like capello.
 
Look. At. His. C.V. Till. Now.

You've said this to the wrong person really.

one point always appears that i don't understand the reasoning behind, and this is it.

jose mourinho never stays at clubs for a prolonged period

right now these are what rafa would call the fachts, mourinho has had five jobs in his nine year tenure, now lets go through these jobs and why he left after a short amount of time

Benfica= new president wanted own manager, like when keegan left newcastle, he was their kinnear if you wish

Leiria= led them to there highest ever finish, was then offered the much larger porto job

porto= proved he was a very good manager by winning champions league, immediately got offered the chelsea job

Chelsea= Once again a huge succes, was offered the chance to manage a team that could challenge for europe every season with lots of money (most of which never materialised) was then sacked after disagreement with abramovich

Inter= current job, will only leave if sacked or a "special" club makes an approach

looking at these facts i cannot see what makes people think mourinho leaves clubs as easily as is made out

so can anyone enlighten me?
 
And winning the league with Liverpool is something that has not been done for decades.
He'd never achieve anything at United that Fergie had not already done. Not unless he planned to stay at United for decades, which is hardly his style.

Very few managers stay on at a club more than 5 or 6 years, let alone twenty fecking four, that's the exception rather than the rule. I'm not expecting Mourinho to stay here for that amount of time, I'd expect between 6 and 8 years, and I think in that time he could improve our European Record as I don't think there is a better manager in Europe tactically than Mourinho. He sometimes does get it wrong (v Liverpool in 2007), but he more often than not gets it right.

People seem to think the next manager has to stay another 20-odd years otherwise they're no good, which is a bit daft. So long as we're not chopping and changing every year or 2 like Chelsea and Madrid, I'll be happy.
 
You've said this to the wrong person really.

Good argument - but you have to admit that given his recent Real Madrid comments, it only seems plausible that we would want to get Mourinho after he had fullfilled his Spanish dream surely? Unless you reckon we would persuade him to stick in Manchester.
 
Just another point from the other thread re: lack of bring through youth:

I disagree - every club he's been at have been, well, underdogs in some respects: therefore his initial and main aim has always been to focus on building a solid team that WINS and then worrying about the youth, etc

I don't blame him for leaving Porto (too small + needs to prove himself on bigger stage), nor from Chelsea (arse of an owner with a pointless Director of Football setup that kept undermining him) and now I don't at Inter either (Italian league is fairly passionless, has won it all and not a place one would 'settle')

I think all his career moves have made logical sense and to be honest it reminds me of my CV where I moved around a lot when I first started, wanting to gain experience, understand, learn - and eventually settle somewhere further down the line. Rather him get all this 'flirts' out of his system beforehand then after.

Also, a random point just come to me while typing this; how can someone say SAF is the greatest in the world and all (which incidentally I agree with) when it can be argued he hasnt had to come out of his comfort-zone and hasnt been tested in other leagues? Arguments can be made for anyone's career regardless of what they achieve/do.
 
The thing about Mourinho is that he may settle down at a club more when he gets older -- by the time he leaves Real, which maybe two seasons, he will be closer to 50. He will not be the same person he was when he first started wining at Porto.

He may start thinking about his lasting legacy rather than the record books. He may settle down and then start to build a youth system as part of his legacy. His need to make lasting impact will always be there -- to succeed Fergie will be that challenge that he will have to drive him for a long time.

But then again, can we afford him by then? Real looks like they will be paying him 10million quid a year netto ie after tax. Fergie gets 3mill before tax? This may all be a moot point.
 
Read a couple of places that he is signing a 4 year deal with Real. So either he will have to get fired at exactly the same time as Fergie retires or Fergie will have to be here for another four years because I for some reason cannot see us paying a huge fee to Real or Real letting him go for him to come to us.
 
I dont think we can afford to pay him 10million -- nett.

That would be more than the any of our top players unless the commercial team in London goes into overdrive and start raking in some mega sponsorships asap.
 
I cant see why Mourinho would be that motivated about money. Obviously his ambition is winning as much as possible, in several different countries etc.

If he can win everything with Madrid then I would expect him to take over from SAF in a couple of years time and then "settle down" for a while and make a name for himself with a club over a longer period of time.
 
Read a couple of places that he is signing a 4 year deal with Real. So either he will have to get fired at exactly the same time as Fergie retires or Fergie will have to be here for another four years because I for some reason cannot see us paying a huge fee to Real or Real letting him go for him to come to us.
He announced it live on German TV last night; when asked ''Was this your last match as Inter manager?'' He answered, ''yes, it was.'' And when asked whether it was Real Madrid, he nodded.

"My target now is to win the Champions League with a third club and then come back to England."
 
I cant see why Mourinho would be that motivated about money. Obviously his ambition is winning as much as possible, in several different countries etc.

If he can win everything with Madrid then I would expect him to take over from SAF in a couple of years time and then "settle down" for a while and make a name for himself with a club over a longer period of time.


I think, and hope, that this is spot on.
 
Good argument - but you have to admit that given his recent Real Madrid comments, it only seems plausible that we would want to get Mourinho after he had fullfilled his Spanish dream surely? Unless you reckon we would persuade him to stick in Manchester.

I agree entirely, him going to Madrid is fantastic for us as he will have fulfilled one ambition and would only have his lasting legacy to work on.
 
With all his talk of wanting to come back to England but not actually doing that for a couple of years yet does seem to suggest he is wating for the Man United job to become available. I remember someone at Chelsea once saying that it was a open secret even when he was there that he dreamed of United.

Oh and after the last few years how sweet would it be to steal Real Madrids manager off them.
 
With all his talk of wanting to come back to England but not actually doing that for a couple of years yet does seem to suggest he is wating for the Man United job to become available. I remember someone at Chelsea once saying that it was a open secret even when he was there that he dreamed of United.

Oh and after the last few years how sweet would it be to steal Real Madrids manager off them.

And possibly one or two of their players. :)
 
So you 'hope' SAF never wins another Champion's League?

How did you gather that? Obviously, I hope that Sir Alex will rule the club for another decade - but that's not likely, is it?

In my honest opinion, Mourinho is the best manager (after our own Fergie) in the world, and therefore I hope that he will come to United after Sir Alex, most likely, step down in 3-4 years.
 
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