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Too much City drooling going on here, last time I checked this was a United forum.
They have won nothing yet this season.
They have won nothing yet this season.
Can they though? If we take last night's starting XI as City's first XI then they could field a second XI like this:
Moreno - Lewis, Ake, Laporte, Gomez - Phillips, Perrone, Foden - Mahrez, Alvarez, Palmer. City fans can correct me if I put some of them in the wrong position but it looks about right to me.
I mean... it's not bad but not exactly "outclass everyone in the Premier League" good. It's better than our second XI, sure. But I have to say the difference isn't money spent... with Maguire, Wan Bissaka, Fred, Lindelöf, Van de Beek, and one of Martial/Antony/Sancho, our second XI has plenty of expensive players in it. They just aren't very good.
Isnt that the whole point. Expensive or not they have a quality bench.Can they though? If we take last night's starting XI as City's first XI then they could field a second XI like this:
Moreno - Lewis, Ake, Laporte, Gomez - Phillips, Perrone, Foden - Mahrez, Alvarez, Palmer. City fans can correct me if I put some of them in the wrong position but it looks about right to me.
I mean... it's not bad but not exactly "outclass everyone in the Premier League" good. It's better than our second XI, sure. But I have to say the difference isn't money spent... with Maguire, Wan Bissaka, Fred, Lindelöf, Van de Beek, and one of Martial/Antony/Sancho, our second XI has plenty of expensive players in it. They just aren't very good.
It IS a small squad though. Not sure why we can't admit that. They have a reasonably small core of excellent, versatile players supported by a few young talents who may or may not make it. We do have a bigger squad. It's mostly shit but it is bigger.Isnt that the whole point. Expensive or not they have a quality bench.
Outclassing everyone in the PL is a hyperbole of course but on the other side of the coing it is funny City fans and Pep fans here claiming its a small squad and comparable to ours quality wise.
Smaller but with more quality. Aren't we talking about the same thing?It IS a small squad though. Not sure why we can't admit that. They have a reasonably small core of excellent, versatile players supported by a few young talents who may or may not make it. We do have a bigger squad. It's mostly shit but it is bigger.
No chance. The Financial Dopers will batter them away and home imo.
Can they though? If we take last night's starting XI as City's first XI then they could field a second XI like this:
Moreno - Lewis, Ake, Laporte, Gomez - Phillips, Perrone, Foden - Mahrez, Alvarez, Palmer. City fans can correct me if I put some of them in the wrong position but it looks about right to me.
I mean... it's not bad but not exactly "outclass everyone in the Premier League" good. It's better than our second XI, sure. But I have to say the difference isn't money spent... with Maguire, Wan Bissaka, Fred, Lindelöf, Van de Beek, and one of Martial/Antony/Sancho, our second XI has plenty of expensive players in it. They just aren't very good.
I’ve named 32 full internationals in United’s squad. A couple are long term crocks but many clubs have those. We do not have any as I stated in the OP which is fortunate. Of those 32 by my rough calculations 29 have been brought in from other clubs so at the time they thought that they were going to improve them if not immediately then in time.When you have Alvarez, Foden, Mahrez, Phillips and Laporte coming off your bench, you're deep
I never said that, you're putting words in my mouth.@Gentleman Jim I'm not claiming city have 2 full XI or whatever, i don't really care, but if you'd rather have United's bench than City's, you're insane
Your City second XI is pretty much spot on.Can they though? If we take last night's starting XI as City's first XI then they could field a second XI like this:
Moreno - Lewis, Ake, Laporte, Gomez - Phillips, Perrone, Foden - Mahrez, Alvarez, Palmer. City fans can correct me if I put some of them in the wrong position but it looks about right to me.
I mean... it's not bad but not exactly "outclass everyone in the Premier League" good. It's better than our second XI, sure. But I have to say the difference isn't money spent... with Maguire, Wan Bissaka, Fred, Lindelöf, Van de Beek, and one of Martial/Antony/Sancho, our second XI has plenty of expensive players in it. They just aren't very good.
city at best have 1.5 full xi.@Gentleman Jim I'm not claiming city have 2 full XI or whatever, i don't really care, but if you'd rather have United's bench than City's, you're insane
is it possible city get big fat zero ?
Nah, Arsenal will bottle it even if city have a couple of freak draws/defeatis it possible city get big fat zero ?
is it possible city get big fat zero ?
And the point about players capable of playing in multiple positions and excelling is actually testament to Pep's greatness rather than their own talent .
16 starting quality playerscity at best have 1.5 full xi.
It would be the first time with oil money. That’s history. Give them some respect ffs!fecking sick of pundits referring to city as being “chasing history” like we’ve not already done it.
The media love in will be unbearable if city pull it off.
fecking sick of pundits referring to city as being “chasing history” like we’ve not already done it.
The media love in will be unbearable if city pull it off.
Great sugar daddy achievement ever!It would be the first time with oil money. That’s history. Give them some respect ffs!
Camavinga is injured and will miss City's game.
There's not way they lose this one now.
Think you jumped the gun on this one?Camavinga is injured and will miss City's game.
Their squad depth is ridiculous. Years of planning but still something most clubs can't compete with.I don’t know why the whole “City have crazy depth” idea is so contentious.
Laporte, Cancelo (so not needed he was loaned out), Walker, Philips, Mahrez, Foden, Alvarez are not starters for them! It’s ridiculous.
The only reason they have a squad like this and can cover injuries and drops in form so easily is because they have broken financial rules to build and maintain the squad in a myriad of different ways.
It’s baffling that posters jump to defend it. I get it, everyone wants to believe that the league is worth watching and competitive, but if they are not convicted of those charges, it will be the beginning of the end for the PL. It is that serious. The playing field has never been so weighted in one team’s favor.
(Obs. Save the net spend/wage figures, we all know they are bollocks)
Do people really try and say they don’t have a ridiculous squad and depth to it? I honestly can’t remember another squad like theirs, ever. Pretty much their entire bench would walk into every other XI. Their B team would probably still finish top 4-6. It’s a joke that they’ve been able to do a decade of such insane financial rule breaking to get to where they now are, which is completely dominating the league every year.I don’t know why the whole “City have crazy depth” idea is so contentious.
Laporte, Cancelo (so not needed he was loaned out), Walker, Philips, Mahrez, Foden, Alvarez are not starters for them! It’s ridiculous.
The only reason they have a squad like this and can cover injuries and drops in form so easily is because they have broken financial rules to build and maintain the squad in a myriad of different ways.
It’s baffling that posters jump to defend it. I get it, everyone wants to believe that the league is worth watching and competitive, but if they are not convicted of those charges, it will be the beginning of the end for the PL. It is that serious. The playing field has never been so weighted in one team’s favor.
(Obs. Save the net spend/wage figures, we all know they are bollocks)
They could clinch on Saturday.That's the league done now, isn't it?